From: holler@ahsoftware.de (Alexander Holler)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) instead of removing the packed attribute
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:40:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0477AB.3080400@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106231022500.2033-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
Am 23.06.2011 16:25, schrieb Alan Stern:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Alexander Holler wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I never wanted to talk about the issue itself (I've already said
>> that), I just wanted to bring in some additional clarity for people
>> looking at the code.
>>
>> I think if there is a packed,aligned(4) most people reading that are
>> able to imaging how the struct looks like, whereas nothing (without
>> packed) might leave doubts which than requires to read compiler docs or
>> the generated code, if one searches a problem in that area.
>
> I disagree. If there are no annotations at all (no packed), there
> should be no doubts. The compiler will add padding wherever it is
> needed for internal alignment and perhaps also at the end of the
> structure. Nowhere else.
I agree to disagree but I assume thats ok. ;)
Let me finally add some maybe interesting or informational points for
those who are working or examing the issue and/or who might be involved
in other discussions on the reason for removing the packed:
- I didn't have any problems booting from ehci with kernels compiled
with gcc 4.6 on armv5 (or x86*).
- 2.6.38.4 (and below) compiled with gcc 4.6 booted from ehci (on a
classic beagleboard c4, armv7), whereas everything from 2.6.38.5 upwards
didn't (same compiler, same config). I've discovered that before having
seen that this might be the issue with the packed, therefor I haven't
tested if 2.6.38.5 might work without a packed and have just used gcc
4.5.x for 2.6.38.x. I have tested that a 2,6,39.x compiled with gcc 4.6
and with a removed packed boots from ehci on the beagleboard, so the
patch which removes the packed might be a candidate for the stable tree.
The reason why booting from ehci stopped with 2.6.38.5+ (gcc 4.6) might
be interesting for someone. Looking at the git log I haven't seen
something special and I don't know why anything below 2.6.38.5 worked
with gcc 4.6 and the packed.
- I don't like the idea that every member of every packed struct
(without an aligned) might be handled byte by byte. It might be
necessary but I still don't like it and would prefer the old behaviour
of gcc. I've added this point just to express my personal humble opinion
and I don't want to get involved in a discussion on that topic. ;)
I've just got involved on that topic by accident and never have had a
real reason to do something there (I've done that just for fun).
Therefore I now prefer to disappear, which means there is absolutely no
reason to respond (to me) or to explain anything to me.
Regards and sorry if I wasted someones time,
Alexander
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
gregkh@suse.de, Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>,
linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Rabin Vincent <rabin@rab.in>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) instead of removing the packed attribute
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:40:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0477AB.3080400@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106231022500.2033-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
Am 23.06.2011 16:25, schrieb Alan Stern:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Alexander Holler wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I never wanted to talk about the issue itself (I've already said
>> that), I just wanted to bring in some additional clarity for people
>> looking at the code.
>>
>> I think if there is a packed,aligned(4) most people reading that are
>> able to imaging how the struct looks like, whereas nothing (without
>> packed) might leave doubts which than requires to read compiler docs or
>> the generated code, if one searches a problem in that area.
>
> I disagree. If there are no annotations at all (no packed), there
> should be no doubts. The compiler will add padding wherever it is
> needed for internal alignment and perhaps also at the end of the
> structure. Nowhere else.
I agree to disagree but I assume thats ok. ;)
Let me finally add some maybe interesting or informational points for
those who are working or examing the issue and/or who might be involved
in other discussions on the reason for removing the packed:
- I didn't have any problems booting from ehci with kernels compiled
with gcc 4.6 on armv5 (or x86*).
- 2.6.38.4 (and below) compiled with gcc 4.6 booted from ehci (on a
classic beagleboard c4, armv7), whereas everything from 2.6.38.5 upwards
didn't (same compiler, same config). I've discovered that before having
seen that this might be the issue with the packed, therefor I haven't
tested if 2.6.38.5 might work without a packed and have just used gcc
4.5.x for 2.6.38.x. I have tested that a 2,6,39.x compiled with gcc 4.6
and with a removed packed boots from ehci on the beagleboard, so the
patch which removes the packed might be a candidate for the stable tree.
The reason why booting from ehci stopped with 2.6.38.5+ (gcc 4.6) might
be interesting for someone. Looking at the git log I haven't seen
something special and I don't know why anything below 2.6.38.5 worked
with gcc 4.6 and the packed.
- I don't like the idea that every member of every packed struct
(without an aligned) might be handled byte by byte. It might be
necessary but I still don't like it and would prefer the old behaviour
of gcc. I've added this point just to express my personal humble opinion
and I don't want to get involved in a discussion on that topic. ;)
I've just got involved on that topic by accident and never have had a
real reason to do something there (I've done that just for fun).
Therefore I now prefer to disappear, which means there is absolutely no
reason to respond (to me) or to explain anything to me.
Regards and sorry if I wasted someones time,
Alexander
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-24 11:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-27 14:34 [PATCH] echi: remove structure packing from ehci_def Rabin Vincent
2011-04-27 14:34 ` Rabin Vincent
2011-04-27 15:15 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-04-27 15:15 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-04-27 15:37 ` [PATCHv2] " Rabin Vincent
2011-04-27 15:37 ` Rabin Vincent
2011-06-16 16:17 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) instead of removing the packed attribute Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 16:17 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 17:09 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 17:09 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 17:55 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 17:55 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 19:25 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 19:25 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 19:46 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 19:46 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 20:10 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 20:10 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 20:20 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 20:20 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 15:02 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 15:02 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 19:00 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-19 19:00 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-19 20:02 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 20:02 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 20:11 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 20:11 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 21:39 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 21:39 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 21:27 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 21:27 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 15:03 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 15:03 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 16:16 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 16:16 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 16:48 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 16:48 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 16:58 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 16:58 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 19:02 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 19:02 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 19:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:20 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:29 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 17:10 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 17:10 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 17:35 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 17:35 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 18:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 18:48 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 20:26 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:26 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:50 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 20:50 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 20:55 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 20:55 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 21:23 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 21:23 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 22:23 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 22:23 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-21 11:25 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-21 11:25 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-25 1:25 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-25 8:09 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-28 18:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-29 10:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 19:14 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:14 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:32 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 19:32 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 20:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:14 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:42 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Alan Stern
2011-06-20 20:42 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 22:36 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 22:36 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-21 15:06 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-21 15:06 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 17:39 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 17:39 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 18:39 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 18:39 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 18:46 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 18:46 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 18:57 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 18:57 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 19:56 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:56 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 21:04 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 21:04 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 22:31 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 22:31 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-21 14:58 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-21 14:58 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-21 20:41 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-21 20:41 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-22 6:23 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-22 6:23 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 20:09 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:09 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 21:05 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 21:05 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 20:07 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:07 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:28 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 20:28 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 20:39 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:39 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 21:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 21:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-23 9:47 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-23 9:47 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-23 14:25 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-23 14:25 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-24 11:40 ` Alexander Holler [this message]
2011-06-24 11:40 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 16:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 16:26 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 20:30 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 20:30 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 18:16 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 18:16 ` Alexander Holler
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