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From: holler@ahsoftware.de (Alexander Holler)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) instead of removing the packed attribute
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:40:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0477AB.3080400@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106231022500.2033-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

Am 23.06.2011 16:25, schrieb Alan Stern:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Alexander Holler wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I never wanted to talk about the issue itself (I've already said
>> that), I just wanted to bring in some additional clarity for people
>> looking at the code.
>>
>> I think if there is a packed,aligned(4) most people reading that are
>> able to imaging how the struct looks like, whereas nothing (without
>> packed) might leave doubts which than requires to read compiler docs or
>> the generated code, if one searches a problem in that area.
>
> I disagree.  If there are no annotations at all (no packed), there
> should be no doubts.  The compiler will add padding wherever it is
> needed for internal alignment and perhaps also at the end of the
> structure.  Nowhere else.

I agree to disagree but I assume thats ok. ;)

Let me finally add some maybe interesting or informational points for 
those who are working or examing the issue and/or who might be involved 
in other discussions on the reason for removing the packed:

- I didn't have any problems booting from ehci with kernels compiled 
with gcc 4.6 on armv5 (or x86*).

- 2.6.38.4 (and below) compiled with gcc 4.6 booted from ehci (on a 
classic beagleboard c4, armv7), whereas everything from 2.6.38.5 upwards 
didn't (same compiler, same config). I've discovered that before having 
seen that this might be the issue with the packed, therefor I haven't 
tested if 2.6.38.5 might work without a packed and have just used gcc 
4.5.x for 2.6.38.x. I have tested that a 2,6,39.x compiled with gcc 4.6 
and with a removed packed boots from ehci on the beagleboard, so the 
patch which removes the packed might be a candidate for the stable tree. 
The reason why booting from ehci stopped with 2.6.38.5+ (gcc 4.6) might 
be interesting for someone. Looking at the git log I haven't seen 
something special and I don't know why anything below 2.6.38.5 worked 
with gcc 4.6 and the packed.

- I don't like the idea that every member of every packed struct 
(without an aligned) might be handled byte by byte. It might be 
necessary but I still don't like it and would prefer the old behaviour 
of gcc. I've added this point just to express my personal humble opinion 
and I don't want to get involved in a discussion on that topic. ;)

I've just got involved on that topic by accident and never have had a 
real reason to do something there (I've done that just for fun). 
Therefore I now prefer to disappear, which means there is absolutely no 
reason to respond (to me) or to explain anything to me.

Regards and sorry if I wasted someones time,

Alexander

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	gregkh@suse.de, Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rabin Vincent <rabin@rab.in>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) instead of removing the packed attribute
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 13:40:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4E0477AB.3080400@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1106231022500.2033-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

Am 23.06.2011 16:25, schrieb Alan Stern:
> On Thu, 23 Jun 2011, Alexander Holler wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I never wanted to talk about the issue itself (I've already said
>> that), I just wanted to bring in some additional clarity for people
>> looking at the code.
>>
>> I think if there is a packed,aligned(4) most people reading that are
>> able to imaging how the struct looks like, whereas nothing (without
>> packed) might leave doubts which than requires to read compiler docs or
>> the generated code, if one searches a problem in that area.
>
> I disagree.  If there are no annotations at all (no packed), there
> should be no doubts.  The compiler will add padding wherever it is
> needed for internal alignment and perhaps also at the end of the
> structure.  Nowhere else.

I agree to disagree but I assume thats ok. ;)

Let me finally add some maybe interesting or informational points for 
those who are working or examing the issue and/or who might be involved 
in other discussions on the reason for removing the packed:

- I didn't have any problems booting from ehci with kernels compiled 
with gcc 4.6 on armv5 (or x86*).

- 2.6.38.4 (and below) compiled with gcc 4.6 booted from ehci (on a 
classic beagleboard c4, armv7), whereas everything from 2.6.38.5 upwards 
didn't (same compiler, same config). I've discovered that before having 
seen that this might be the issue with the packed, therefor I haven't 
tested if 2.6.38.5 might work without a packed and have just used gcc 
4.5.x for 2.6.38.x. I have tested that a 2,6,39.x compiled with gcc 4.6 
and with a removed packed boots from ehci on the beagleboard, so the 
patch which removes the packed might be a candidate for the stable tree. 
The reason why booting from ehci stopped with 2.6.38.5+ (gcc 4.6) might 
be interesting for someone. Looking at the git log I haven't seen 
something special and I don't know why anything below 2.6.38.5 worked 
with gcc 4.6 and the packed.

- I don't like the idea that every member of every packed struct 
(without an aligned) might be handled byte by byte. It might be 
necessary but I still don't like it and would prefer the old behaviour 
of gcc. I've added this point just to express my personal humble opinion 
and I don't want to get involved in a discussion on that topic. ;)

I've just got involved on that topic by accident and never have had a 
real reason to do something there (I've done that just for fun). 
Therefore I now prefer to disappear, which means there is absolutely no 
reason to respond (to me) or to explain anything to me.

Regards and sorry if I wasted someones time,

Alexander

  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-24 11:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-27 14:34 [PATCH] echi: remove structure packing from ehci_def Rabin Vincent
2011-04-27 14:34 ` Rabin Vincent
2011-04-27 15:15 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-04-27 15:15   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2011-04-27 15:37   ` [PATCHv2] " Rabin Vincent
2011-04-27 15:37     ` Rabin Vincent
2011-06-16 16:17     ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) instead of removing the packed attribute Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 16:17       ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 17:09       ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 17:09         ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 17:55         ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 17:55           ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 19:25           ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 19:25             ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 19:46             ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 19:46               ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 20:10               ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 20:10                 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 20:20                 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 20:20                   ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 15:02                   ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 15:02                     ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 19:00                     ` Alan Stern
2011-06-19 19:00                       ` Alan Stern
2011-06-19 20:02                       ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 20:02                         ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 20:11                         ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 20:11                           ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-19 21:39                         ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 21:39                           ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 21:27                       ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-19 21:27                         ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 15:03                         ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 15:03                           ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 16:16                           ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 16:16                             ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 16:48                             ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 16:48                               ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 16:58                               ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 16:58                                 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 19:02                                 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 19:02                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 19:20                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:20                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:29                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:29                                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 17:10                               ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 17:10                                 ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 17:35                                 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 17:35                                   ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 18:48                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 18:48                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 20:26                                     ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:26                                       ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:50                                       ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 20:50                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 20:55                                       ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 20:55                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 21:23                                         ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 21:23                                           ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 22:23                                           ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 22:23                                             ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-21 11:25                                             ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-21 11:25                                               ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-25  1:25                                               ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-25  8:09                                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-28 18:51                                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-29 10:56                                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 19:14                                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:14                                     ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:32                                     ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 19:32                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-06-20 20:14                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:14                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:42                                     ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Alan Stern
2011-06-20 20:42                                       ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 22:36                                       ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 22:36                                         ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-21 15:06                                         ` Alan Stern
2011-06-21 15:06                                           ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 17:39                                 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 17:39                                   ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 18:39                                   ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 18:39                                     ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 18:46                                     ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 18:46                                       ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 18:57                                       ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 18:57                                         ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 19:56                                     ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 19:56                                       ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 21:04                                       ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 21:04                                         ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 22:31                                         ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 22:31                                           ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-21 14:58                                           ` Alan Stern
2011-06-21 14:58                                             ` Alan Stern
2011-06-21 20:41                                             ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-21 20:41                                               ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-22  6:23                                               ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-22  6:23                                                 ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 20:09                                     ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:09                                       ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 21:05                                       ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 21:05                                         ` Alan Stern
2011-06-20 20:07                                   ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:07                                     ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:28                                     ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 20:28                                       ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 20:39                                       ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed, aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 20:39                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 21:03                                         ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-20 21:03                                           ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-06-23  9:47                                     ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-23  9:47                                       ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-23 14:25                                       ` Alan Stern
2011-06-23 14:25                                         ` Alan Stern
2011-06-24 11:40                                         ` Alexander Holler [this message]
2011-06-24 11:40                                           ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-20 16:26                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-20 16:26                             ` [PATCH] USB: ehci: use packed,aligned(4) " Arnd Bergmann
2011-06-16 20:30                 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 20:30                   ` Alan Stern
2011-06-16 18:16         ` Alexander Holler
2011-06-16 18:16           ` Alexander Holler

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