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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@redhat.com>,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: virtio-scsi spec (was Re: [PATCH] Add virtio-scsi to the virtio spec)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 17:36:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ED65BA4.3000003@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ED63AE1.8090105@suse.de>

On 11/30/2011 03:17 PM, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>>   seg_max is the maximum number of segments that can be in a
>>     command. A bidirectional command can include seg_max input
>>     segments and seg_max output segments.
>>
> I would like to have the other request_queue limitations exposed
> here, too.
> Most notably we're missing the maximum size of an individual segment
> and the maximum size of the overall I/O request.

The virtio transport does not put any limit, as far as I know.

> As this is the host specification I really would like to see an host
> identifier somewhere in there.
> Otherwise we won't be able to reliably identify a virtio SCSI host.

I thought about it, but I couldn't figure out exactly how to use it. If 
it's just allocating 64 bits in the configuration space (with the 
stipulation that they could be zero), let's do it now. Otherwise a 
controlq command is indeed better, and it can come later.

But even if it's just a 64-bit value, then: 1) where would you place it 
in sysfs for userspace?  I can make up a random name, but existing user 
tools won't find it and that's against the design of virtio-scsi.  2) 
How would it be encoded as a transport ID?  Is it FC, or firewire, or 
SAS, or what?

> Plus you can't calculate the ITL nexus information, making
> Persistent Reservations impossible.

They are not impossible, only some features such as SPEC_I_PT.  If you 
use NPIV or iSCSI in the host, then the persistent reservations will 
already get the correct initiator port.  If not, much more work is needed.

> We should be adding
>
> VIRTIO_SCSI_S_BUSY
>
> for a temporary failure, indicating that a command retry
> might be sufficient to clear this situation.
> Equivalent to VIRTIO_SCSI_S_NEXUS_FAILURE, but issuing a retry on
> the same path.

... and equivalent to DID_BUS_BUSY.  Assuming no other major objections, 
I will add and resubmit in a few days.

Paolo

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From: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@redhat.com>,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: virtio-scsi spec (was Re: [PATCH] Add virtio-scsi to the virtio spec)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 17:36:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ED65BA4.3000003@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ED63AE1.8090105@suse.de>

On 11/30/2011 03:17 PM, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>>   seg_max is the maximum number of segments that can be in a
>>     command. A bidirectional command can include seg_max input
>>     segments and seg_max output segments.
>>
> I would like to have the other request_queue limitations exposed
> here, too.
> Most notably we're missing the maximum size of an individual segment
> and the maximum size of the overall I/O request.

The virtio transport does not put any limit, as far as I know.

> As this is the host specification I really would like to see an host
> identifier somewhere in there.
> Otherwise we won't be able to reliably identify a virtio SCSI host.

I thought about it, but I couldn't figure out exactly how to use it. If 
it's just allocating 64 bits in the configuration space (with the 
stipulation that they could be zero), let's do it now. Otherwise a 
controlq command is indeed better, and it can come later.

But even if it's just a 64-bit value, then: 1) where would you place it 
in sysfs for userspace?  I can make up a random name, but existing user 
tools won't find it and that's against the design of virtio-scsi.  2) 
How would it be encoded as a transport ID?  Is it FC, or firewire, or 
SAS, or what?

> Plus you can't calculate the ITL nexus information, making
> Persistent Reservations impossible.

They are not impossible, only some features such as SPEC_I_PT.  If you 
use NPIV or iSCSI in the host, then the persistent reservations will 
already get the correct initiator port.  If not, much more work is needed.

> We should be adding
>
> VIRTIO_SCSI_S_BUSY
>
> for a temporary failure, indicating that a command retry
> might be sufficient to clear this situation.
> Equivalent to VIRTIO_SCSI_S_NEXUS_FAILURE, but issuing a retry on
> the same path.

... and equivalent to DID_BUS_BUSY.  Assuming no other major objections, 
I will add and resubmit in a few days.

Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-30 16:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-30 13:50 [PATCH] Add virtio-scsi to the virtio spec Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-30 13:50 ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-30 13:50 ` virtio-scsi spec (was Re: [PATCH] Add virtio-scsi to the virtio spec) Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-30 13:50   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-11-30 14:17   ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-11-30 14:17     ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-11-30 16:36     ` Paolo Bonzini [this message]
2011-11-30 16:36       ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-01  9:52       ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-12-01  9:52         ` Hannes Reinecke
2011-12-01  8:49         ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-01  8:49           ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-01  3:14 ` [PATCH] Add virtio-scsi to the virtio spec Rusty Russell
2011-12-01  3:14   ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-01  8:55   ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-01  8:55     ` Paolo Bonzini
2011-12-02  0:51     ` Rusty Russell
2011-12-02  0:51       ` Rusty Russell

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