From: "Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao" <fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org,
Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
mingo@redhat.com, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
tglx@linutronix.de, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, mingo@elte.hu,
vgoyal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] boot: ignore early NMIs
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:11:49 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F5EACE5.8080202@oss.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F5E59AC.7090708@zytor.com>
On 03/13/2012 05:16 AM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 03/12/2012 01:04 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 03/12/2012 01:01 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> The basic problem is which source do we block this at? How many
>>> sources are their? And architecturally last I looked x86 no longer
>>> has a NMI disable EFI and similar systems want to get away without
>>> a CMOS legacy clock because designers so often get them wrong.
>>>
>> On all processors which have an LAPIC you can block all NMI sources at
>> the LAPIC. I think it's safe to assume that if you don't have an LAPIC
>> -- an ancient system by now -- you have port 70h.
>>
> One thing: *disabling* the LAPIC will allow external NMIs coming in on
> LINT1 through, since the LAPIC in the disabled state tries to mimic the
> no-LAPIC configuration. So I don't think you want to disable LAPIC as
> much as disable the interrupt vectors within.
Does this sound like a plan to get the ball rolling?:
1.- Merge Don's patch to disable the LAPIC in kdump reboot path (this
fixes a real issue seen in the field, is a net win and certainly not a
regression - indeed it makes the code simpler because the I/O
APICs are left untouched).
2.- Merge my patch set to ignore early NMIs (this brings the behavior
of the boot code in line with what we do in the rest of the kernel
a we can avoid situations were a spurious NMI causes the kernel
to halt). The early NMI handler is temporary and the final NMI
handler installed shortly afterwards will take care of subsequent
NMIs.
3.- Make sure that spurious NMIs (i.e. NMIs that for whatever reason
could not be stopped at the source) received during the reboot
path to the kdump kernel do not cause a triple fault or a system
lockup. This is under testing.
4.- Identify all the NMI sources and keep them from reaching the CPU
when it can be done in a race-free way.
Can we get 1 and 2 merged while we work on further improvements
(3 and 4)?
Thanks,
Fernando
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From: "Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao" <fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Don Zickus <dzickus@redhat.com>,
linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
mingo@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@elte.hu,
Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>,
akpm@linux-foundation.org, vgoyal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] boot: ignore early NMIs
Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 11:11:49 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4F5EACE5.8080202@oss.ntt.co.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F5E59AC.7090708@zytor.com>
On 03/13/2012 05:16 AM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 03/12/2012 01:04 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 03/12/2012 01:01 PM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>> The basic problem is which source do we block this at? How many
>>> sources are their? And architecturally last I looked x86 no longer
>>> has a NMI disable EFI and similar systems want to get away without
>>> a CMOS legacy clock because designers so often get them wrong.
>>>
>> On all processors which have an LAPIC you can block all NMI sources at
>> the LAPIC. I think it's safe to assume that if you don't have an LAPIC
>> -- an ancient system by now -- you have port 70h.
>>
> One thing: *disabling* the LAPIC will allow external NMIs coming in on
> LINT1 through, since the LAPIC in the disabled state tries to mimic the
> no-LAPIC configuration. So I don't think you want to disable LAPIC as
> much as disable the interrupt vectors within.
Does this sound like a plan to get the ball rolling?:
1.- Merge Don's patch to disable the LAPIC in kdump reboot path (this
fixes a real issue seen in the field, is a net win and certainly not a
regression - indeed it makes the code simpler because the I/O
APICs are left untouched).
2.- Merge my patch set to ignore early NMIs (this brings the behavior
of the boot code in line with what we do in the rest of the kernel
a we can avoid situations were a spurious NMI causes the kernel
to halt). The early NMI handler is temporary and the final NMI
handler installed shortly afterwards will take care of subsequent
NMIs.
3.- Make sure that spurious NMIs (i.e. NMIs that for whatever reason
could not be stopped at the source) received during the reboot
path to the kdump kernel do not cause a triple fault or a system
lockup. This is under testing.
4.- Identify all the NMI sources and keep them from reaching the CPU
when it can be done in a race-free way.
Can we get 1 and 2 merged while we work on further improvements
(3 and 4)?
Thanks,
Fernando
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-03-13 2:11 UTC|newest]
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2012-02-11 23:09 [tip:x86/debug] x86/kdump: No need to disable ioapic/ lapic in crash path tip-bot for Don Zickus
2012-02-12 1:04 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-12 1:04 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-12 3:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-12 3:13 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-12 4:17 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-12 4:17 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-13 12:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-13 12:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-13 16:51 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-13 16:51 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-13 18:16 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-13 18:16 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-16 17:27 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-16 17:27 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-16 21:53 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-16 21:53 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-16 21:56 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-16 21:56 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-17 3:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-17 3:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-17 12:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-17 12:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-17 15:49 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-02-17 15:49 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-02-17 20:18 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-17 20:18 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-20 5:17 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-02-20 5:17 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-02-20 15:24 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-20 15:24 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-17 19:54 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-17 19:54 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-18 3:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-18 3:21 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-20 15:14 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-20 15:14 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-21 8:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-21 8:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-21 13:59 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-21 13:59 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-29 23:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-29 23:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-07 10:53 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-07 10:53 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-07 10:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] boot: ignore early NMIs Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-07 10:54 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-07 10:56 ` [PATCH 2/2] boot: add early NMI counter Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-07 10:56 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-08 4:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 4:50 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 6:00 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-08 6:00 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-08 4:41 ` [PATCH 1/2] boot: ignore early NMIs Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 4:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 5:53 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-08 5:53 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-08 16:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-08 16:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-09 9:31 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09 9:31 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09 9:51 ` [PATCH 1/3] boot: fortify early_idt_handlers definition Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09 9:51 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09 9:55 ` [PATCH 2/3] boot: ignore early NMIs Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09 9:55 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09 10:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] boot: add early NMI counter Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09 10:01 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09 20:52 ` [PATCH 1/2] boot: ignore early NMIs H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-09 20:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 5:43 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-12 5:43 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-12 5:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 5:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 6:14 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-12 6:14 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-12 13:36 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-12 13:36 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-12 19:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-12 19:02 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-12 19:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-12 19:58 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-12 20:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 20:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 18:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 18:40 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 20:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-12 20:01 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-12 20:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 20:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 20:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-12 20:16 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-03-13 2:11 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao [this message]
2012-03-13 2:11 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-13 13:33 ` Don Zickus
2012-03-13 13:33 ` Don Zickus
2012-03-15 0:43 ` Simon Horman
2012-03-15 0:43 ` Simon Horman
2012-03-13 1:43 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-13 1:43 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-12 14:41 ` Don Zickus
2012-03-12 14:41 ` Don Zickus
2012-03-07 15:50 ` [tip:x86/debug] x86/kdump: No need to disable ioapic/ lapic in crash path Vivek Goyal
2012-03-07 15:50 ` Vivek Goyal
2012-03-07 18:27 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-03-07 18:27 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-03-08 1:29 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-08 1:29 ` Fernando Luis Vázquez Cao
2012-03-09 0:59 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-03-09 0:59 ` HATAYAMA Daisuke
2012-03-09 2:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-03-09 2:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-02-12 11:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-12 11:12 ` Ingo Molnar
2012-02-13 15:28 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-13 15:28 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-13 16:52 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-13 16:52 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-13 22:12 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-13 22:12 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-13 22:51 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-13 22:51 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-16 2:53 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-16 2:53 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-16 18:43 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-16 18:43 ` Yinghai Lu
2012-02-16 21:41 ` Don Zickus
2012-02-16 21:41 ` Don Zickus
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