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From: claudiu beznea <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>
To: Biju Das <biju.das.jz@bp.renesas.com>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: "vkoul@kernel.org" <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	"kishon@kernel.org" <kishon@kernel.org>,
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	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-clk@vger.kernel.org" <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Claudiu Beznea <claudiu.beznea.uj@bp.renesas.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] Add initial USB support for the Renesas RZ/G3S SoC
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:19:44 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4cb2f788-1ba6-40f6-a48d-1fd2e5293aa8@tuxon.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <TY3PR01MB11346A4814F83FE296A1DED8886922@TY3PR01MB11346.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com>



On 02.09.2024 13:47, Biju Das wrote:
> Hi Claudiu,
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: claudiu beznea <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>
>> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 11:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] Add initial USB support for the Renesas RZ/G3S SoC
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02.09.2024 12:18, Biju Das wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you have any plan to control this power transitions(ALL_ON to AWO and vice versa) in linux?
>>>>>> As you know, the RZ/G3S USB PM code is already prepared. This is
>>>>>> also configuring these signals when going to suspend/exiting from resume.
>>>>>> W/o configuring properly these signals the USB is not working after a suspend/resume cycle.
>>>>> One option is to handle SYSC USB PWRRDY signal in TF-A, if you plan
>>>>> to handle system transitions
>>>> there??
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned, the settings in these registers may be changed by intermediary booting
>> applications.
>>>> Depending on that, Linux need to control it also on probe for USB to
>>>> work (it should be the same with PCIe, these signals seems similar from HW manual description).
>>> You mean system transition settings will be override by U-boot, so Linux needs to restore it back??
>>
>> It was talking about booting...
> 
> I am also referring to boot. Boot starts with TF-A and it has a system state.
> 
>>
>> You proposed to handle SYSC signals from TF-A in a discussion about system power transitions:
>>
>> "One option is to handle SYSC USB PWRRDY signal in TF-A,  if you plan to handle system transitions"
>>
>> (I was guessing the "system transition" statement there refers to power states transitions, ALL_ON <->
>> AWO/VBAT)
> 
> That is correct.
> 
>>
>> and I gave the booting process as a counter example: if we handle it in TF-A it may not be enough as
>> these signals might be changed by intermediary booting applications (e.g., U-Boot).
> 
> Why should U-boot override, system state signals such as USB PWRREADY? Can you please give an example.

I didn't say *should* but *might* and I was referring to a hypothetical
situation where any used application (bootloader) might trigger this signal
for whatever reason. My point was to let Linux to handle all the settings
that it can do for a particular functionality. The resisters in SYSC
address space controlling these signals are accessible to normal world
compared to others in the SYSC address spaces.

> 
>>
>> To conclude, there are 3 scenarios I see where these signals need to be
>> handled:
>> 1/ booting 
>> 2/ suspend to RAM
>> 3/ driver unbind/bind
> 
> --> It should be OK as linux is not handling USB PWRREADY signal.
> 
>>
>> In case of booting: if we have TF-A to set signals there might be intermediary booting applications
>> (e.g. U-Boot) that set these signals also. If it leaves it in improper state and Linux wants to use
>> USB then the USB will not work (if Linux doesn't handle it).
> 
> That is the problem of U-boot. U-boot should not override system state signals such as USB PWRREADY.

U-Boot can also use USB as well.

> 
>>
>> In case of suspend to RAM: as TF-A is the only application in the suspend to RAM chain, it should work
>> handling it in TF-A.
> 
> That is correct, TF-A should handle based on system state.
> 
>>
>> In case of unbind/bind: currently we don't know if these signals introduces any kind of power saving
>> so asserting/de-asserting them in Linux may be useful from this perspective, if any.
> 
> These are system signals, according to me should not be used in unbind/bind.

It can be done whatever way. I would just prefer to work for all scenarios.

Thank you,
Claudiu Beznea

> 
> I may be wrong.
> 
> Cheers,
> Biju

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From: claudiu beznea <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>
To: Biju Das <biju.das.jz@bp.renesas.com>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
Cc: "vkoul@kernel.org" <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	"kishon@kernel.org" <kishon@kernel.org>,
	"robh@kernel.org" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"krzk+dt@kernel.org" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"conor+dt@kernel.org" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"p.zabel@pengutronix.de" <p.zabel@pengutronix.de>,
	"geert+renesas@glider.be" <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
	"magnus.damm@gmail.com" <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
	"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"mturquette@baylibre.com" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"sboyd@kernel.org" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Yoshihiro Shimoda <yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com>,
	"linux-phy@lists.infradead.org" <linux-phy@lists.infradead.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org"
	<linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-clk@vger.kernel.org" <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Claudiu Beznea <claudiu.beznea.uj@bp.renesas.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] Add initial USB support for the Renesas RZ/G3S SoC
Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 13:19:44 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4cb2f788-1ba6-40f6-a48d-1fd2e5293aa8@tuxon.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <TY3PR01MB11346A4814F83FE296A1DED8886922@TY3PR01MB11346.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com>



On 02.09.2024 13:47, Biju Das wrote:
> Hi Claudiu,
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: claudiu beznea <claudiu.beznea@tuxon.dev>
>> Sent: Monday, September 2, 2024 11:41 AM
>> Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] Add initial USB support for the Renesas RZ/G3S SoC
>>
>>
>>
>> On 02.09.2024 12:18, Biju Das wrote:
>>>>>>> Do you have any plan to control this power transitions(ALL_ON to AWO and vice versa) in linux?
>>>>>> As you know, the RZ/G3S USB PM code is already prepared. This is
>>>>>> also configuring these signals when going to suspend/exiting from resume.
>>>>>> W/o configuring properly these signals the USB is not working after a suspend/resume cycle.
>>>>> One option is to handle SYSC USB PWRRDY signal in TF-A, if you plan
>>>>> to handle system transitions
>>>> there??
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned, the settings in these registers may be changed by intermediary booting
>> applications.
>>>> Depending on that, Linux need to control it also on probe for USB to
>>>> work (it should be the same with PCIe, these signals seems similar from HW manual description).
>>> You mean system transition settings will be override by U-boot, so Linux needs to restore it back??
>>
>> It was talking about booting...
> 
> I am also referring to boot. Boot starts with TF-A and it has a system state.
> 
>>
>> You proposed to handle SYSC signals from TF-A in a discussion about system power transitions:
>>
>> "One option is to handle SYSC USB PWRRDY signal in TF-A,  if you plan to handle system transitions"
>>
>> (I was guessing the "system transition" statement there refers to power states transitions, ALL_ON <->
>> AWO/VBAT)
> 
> That is correct.
> 
>>
>> and I gave the booting process as a counter example: if we handle it in TF-A it may not be enough as
>> these signals might be changed by intermediary booting applications (e.g., U-Boot).
> 
> Why should U-boot override, system state signals such as USB PWRREADY? Can you please give an example.

I didn't say *should* but *might* and I was referring to a hypothetical
situation where any used application (bootloader) might trigger this signal
for whatever reason. My point was to let Linux to handle all the settings
that it can do for a particular functionality. The resisters in SYSC
address space controlling these signals are accessible to normal world
compared to others in the SYSC address spaces.

> 
>>
>> To conclude, there are 3 scenarios I see where these signals need to be
>> handled:
>> 1/ booting 
>> 2/ suspend to RAM
>> 3/ driver unbind/bind
> 
> --> It should be OK as linux is not handling USB PWRREADY signal.
> 
>>
>> In case of booting: if we have TF-A to set signals there might be intermediary booting applications
>> (e.g. U-Boot) that set these signals also. If it leaves it in improper state and Linux wants to use
>> USB then the USB will not work (if Linux doesn't handle it).
> 
> That is the problem of U-boot. U-boot should not override system state signals such as USB PWRREADY.

U-Boot can also use USB as well.

> 
>>
>> In case of suspend to RAM: as TF-A is the only application in the suspend to RAM chain, it should work
>> handling it in TF-A.
> 
> That is correct, TF-A should handle based on system state.
> 
>>
>> In case of unbind/bind: currently we don't know if these signals introduces any kind of power saving
>> so asserting/de-asserting them in Linux may be useful from this perspective, if any.
> 
> These are system signals, according to me should not be used in unbind/bind.

It can be done whatever way. I would just prefer to work for all scenarios.

Thank you,
Claudiu Beznea

> 
> I may be wrong.
> 
> Cheers,
> Biju

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-03 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 196+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-22 15:27 [PATCH 00/16] Add initial USB support for the Renesas RZ/G3S SoC Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27 ` Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 01/16] clk: renesas: r9a08g045: Add clocks, resets and power domains for USB Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-08-29 12:35   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-29 12:35     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 02/16] dt-bindings: soc: renesas: renesas,rzg2l-sysc: Add #reset-cells for RZ/G3S Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-08-22 16:42   ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-22 16:42     ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-22 16:44     ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-22 16:44       ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-23  7:59       ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-23  7:59         ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-23  7:54     ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-23  7:54       ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-23 16:18       ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-23 16:18         ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-23 16:26         ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-23 16:26           ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-23 16:33           ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-23 16:33             ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-26 10:15             ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-26 10:15               ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-26 17:09               ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-26 17:09                 ` Conor Dooley
2024-10-08 13:24   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 13:24     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 03/16] dt-bindings: reset: renesas,r9a08g045-sysc: Add reset IDs for RZ/G3S SYSC reset Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-08-22 16:45   ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-22 16:45     ` Conor Dooley
2024-10-08 13:25   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 13:25     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 04/16] soc: renesas: Add SYSC driver for Renesas RZ/G3S Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-09-24 11:32   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-09-24 11:32     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-09-25  7:50     ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-25  7:50       ` claudiu beznea
2024-10-08 13:54       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 13:54         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 05/16] soc: renesas: sysc: Move RZ/G3S SoC detection on SYSC driver Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-10-08 13:23   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 13:23     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-09  8:26     ` claudiu beznea
2024-10-09  8:26       ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 06/16] dt-bindings: reset: renesas,rzg2l-usbphy-ctrl: Document RZ/G3S SoC Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-08-22 16:45   ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-22 16:45     ` Conor Dooley
2024-10-08 14:46   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 14:46     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 07/16] reset: rzg2l-usbphy-ctrl: Get reset control array Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-08-23  7:25   ` Biju Das
2024-08-23  7:25     ` Biju Das
2024-08-23  8:05     ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-23  8:05       ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-23  8:17       ` Biju Das
2024-08-23  8:17         ` Biju Das
2024-10-08 14:46   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 14:46     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 08/16] reset: rzg2l-usbphy-ctrl: Add support for RZ/G3S Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-08-22 16:59   ` Biju Das
2024-08-22 16:59     ` Biju Das
2024-08-23  8:40     ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-23  8:40       ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-23  8:46       ` Biju Das
2024-08-23  8:46         ` Biju Das
2024-10-08 14:47   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 14:47     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 09/16] dt-bindings: usb: renesas,usbhs: Document RZ/G3S SoC Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-08-22 16:46   ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-22 16:46     ` Conor Dooley
2024-10-08 14:51   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 14:51     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-09  8:28     ` claudiu beznea
2024-10-09  8:28       ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 10/16] phy: renesas: rcar-gen3-usb2: Add support to initialize the bus Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-08-23  7:35   ` Biju Das
2024-08-23  7:35     ` Biju Das
2024-08-23  8:57     ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-23  8:57       ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-23  9:01       ` Biju Das
2024-08-23  9:01         ` Biju Das
2024-08-30  8:02         ` Vinod Koul
2024-08-30  8:02           ` Vinod Koul
2024-08-30  8:06           ` Biju Das
2024-08-30  8:06             ` Biju Das
2024-10-08 14:57   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 14:57     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-09  8:31     ` claudiu beznea
2024-10-09  8:31       ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 11/16] dt-bindings: phy: renesas,usb2-phy: Document RZ/G3S phy bindings Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-08-22 16:46   ` Conor Dooley
2024-08-22 16:46     ` Conor Dooley
2024-10-08 14:58   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 14:58     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 12/16] phy: renesas: rcar-gen3-usb2: Add support for the RZ/G3S SoC Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-10-08 14:59   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 14:59     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 13/16] arm64: dts: renesas: Add #reset-cells to system controller node Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-10-08 14:59   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 14:59     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-22 15:27 ` [PATCH 14/16] arm64: dts: renesas: r9a08g045: Add USB support Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:27   ` Claudiu
2024-10-08 15:00   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 15:00     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-22 15:28 ` [PATCH 15/16] arm64: dts: renesas: rzg3s-smarc: Enable " Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:28   ` Claudiu
2024-10-08 15:16   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 15:16     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-09  8:42     ` claudiu beznea
2024-10-09  8:42       ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-22 15:28 ` [PATCH 16/16] arm64: defconfig: Enable RZ/G3S SYSC reset driver Claudiu
2024-08-22 15:28   ` Claudiu
2024-10-08 15:17   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-10-08 15:17     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2024-08-29 15:26 ` [PATCH 00/16] Add initial USB support for the Renesas RZ/G3S SoC Ulf Hansson
2024-08-29 15:26   ` Ulf Hansson
2024-08-30  8:22   ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-30  8:22     ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-30 10:14     ` Ulf Hansson
2024-08-30 10:14       ` Ulf Hansson
2024-08-30 11:32       ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-30 11:32         ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-31 10:32         ` Ulf Hansson
2024-08-31 10:32           ` Ulf Hansson
2024-09-03 10:35           ` Ulf Hansson
2024-09-03 10:35             ` Ulf Hansson
2024-09-03 10:58             ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 10:58               ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 11:50               ` Ulf Hansson
2024-09-03 11:50                 ` Ulf Hansson
2024-08-31  5:13     ` Biju Das
2024-08-31  5:13       ` Biju Das
2024-09-02  7:54       ` Biju Das
2024-09-02  7:54         ` Biju Das
2024-09-02  8:47         ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-02  8:47           ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-02  8:53           ` Biju Das
2024-09-02  8:53             ` Biju Das
2024-09-02  9:14             ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-02  9:14               ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-02  9:18               ` Biju Das
2024-09-02  9:18                 ` Biju Das
2024-09-02 10:40                 ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-02 10:40                   ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-02 10:47                   ` Biju Das
2024-09-02 10:47                     ` Biju Das
2024-09-03  7:18                     ` Biju Das
2024-09-03  7:18                       ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 10:25                       ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 10:25                         ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 10:31                         ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 10:31                           ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 11:00                           ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 11:00                             ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 11:07                             ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 11:07                               ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 12:00                               ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 12:00                                 ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 12:25                                 ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 12:25                                   ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 12:37                                   ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 12:37                                     ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 12:57                                     ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 12:57                                       ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 13:09                                       ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 13:09                                         ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 14:46                                         ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 14:46                                           ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 15:30                                           ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 15:30                                             ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 13:45                                       ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 13:45                                         ` Biju Das
2024-09-03 14:48                                         ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-03 14:48                                           ` claudiu beznea
2024-11-07 10:00                                           ` Claudiu Beznea
2024-11-07 10:00                                             ` Claudiu Beznea
2024-11-07 16:22                                             ` Philipp Zabel
2024-11-07 16:22                                               ` Philipp Zabel
2024-09-03 10:19                     ` claudiu beznea [this message]
2024-09-03 10:19                       ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-02  8:28       ` claudiu beznea
2024-09-02  8:28         ` claudiu beznea
2024-08-30  8:10 ` (subset) " Vinod Koul
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