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From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, john.johansen@canonical.com,
	LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ipv4: tcp: security_sk_alloc() needed for unicast_sock
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:53:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5024313F.1010404@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1344547743.31104.582.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

On 8/9/2012 2:29 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 16:06 -0400, Eric Paris wrote:
>> NAK.
>>
>> I personally think commit be9f4a44e7d41cee should be reverted until it
>> is fixed.  Let me explain what all I believe it broke and how.
>>
> Suggesting to revert this commit while we have known working fixes is a
> bit of strange reaction.

A couple of potential short term workarounds have been identified,
but no one is happy with them for the long term. That does not
qualify as a "working fix" in engineering terms.

> I understand you are upset, but I believe we tried to fix it.
>
>> Old callchain of the creation of the 'equivalent' socket previous to
>> the patch in question just for reference:
>>
>>     inet_ctl_sock_create
>>       sock_create_kern
>>         __sock_create
>>           pf->create (inet_create)
>>             sk_alloc
>>               sk_prot_alloc
>>                 security_sk_alloc()
>>
>>
>> This WAS working properly.  All of it. 
> Nobody denies it. But acknowledge my patch uncovered a fundamental
> issue.
>
> What kind of 'security module' can decide to let RST packets being sent
> or not, on a global scale ? (one socket for the whole machine)

The short answer is "any security module that wants to".

And before we go any further, I'm a little surprised that
SELinux doesn't do this already.

>
> smack_sk_alloc_security() uses smk_of_current() : What can be the
> meaning of smk_of_current() in the context of 'kernel' sockets...

Yes, and all of it's callers - to date - have had an appropriate
value of current. It is using the API in the way it is supposed to.
It is assuming a properly formed socket. You want to give it a
cobbled together partial socket structure without task context.
Your predecessor did not have this problem.

>
> Your patch tries to maintain this status quo.
>
> In fact I suggest the following one liner patch, unless you can really
> demonstrate what can be the meaning of providing a fake socket for these
> packets.
>
> This mess only happened because ip_append_data()/ip_push_pending_frames()
> are so complex and use an underlying socket.
>
> But this socket should not be ever used outside of its scope.
>
> diff --git a/net/ipv4/ip_output.c b/net/ipv4/ip_output.c
> index 76dde25..ec410e0 100644
> --- a/net/ipv4/ip_output.c
> +++ b/net/ipv4/ip_output.c
> @@ -1536,6 +1536,7 @@ void ip_send_unicast_reply(struct net *net, struct sk_buff *skb, __be32 daddr,
>  			  arg->csumoffset) = csum_fold(csum_add(nskb->csum,
>  								arg->csum));
>  		nskb->ip_summed = CHECKSUM_NONE;
> +		skb_orphan(nskb);
>  		skb_set_queue_mapping(nskb, skb_get_queue_mapping(skb));
>  		ip_push_pending_frames(sk, &fl4);
>  	}
>
>
>


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From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Eric Paris <eparis@parisplace.org>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	John Stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@oracle.com>,
	selinux@tycho.nsa.gov, john.johansen@canonical.com,
	LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ipv4: tcp: security_sk_alloc() needed for unicast_sock
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2012 14:53:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5024313F.1010404@schaufler-ca.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1344547743.31104.582.camel@edumazet-glaptop>

On 8/9/2012 2:29 PM, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Thu, 2012-08-09 at 16:06 -0400, Eric Paris wrote:
>> NAK.
>>
>> I personally think commit be9f4a44e7d41cee should be reverted until it
>> is fixed.  Let me explain what all I believe it broke and how.
>>
> Suggesting to revert this commit while we have known working fixes is a
> bit of strange reaction.

A couple of potential short term workarounds have been identified,
but no one is happy with them for the long term. That does not
qualify as a "working fix" in engineering terms.

> I understand you are upset, but I believe we tried to fix it.
>
>> Old callchain of the creation of the 'equivalent' socket previous to
>> the patch in question just for reference:
>>
>>     inet_ctl_sock_create
>>       sock_create_kern
>>         __sock_create
>>           pf->create (inet_create)
>>             sk_alloc
>>               sk_prot_alloc
>>                 security_sk_alloc()
>>
>>
>> This WAS working properly.  All of it. 
> Nobody denies it. But acknowledge my patch uncovered a fundamental
> issue.
>
> What kind of 'security module' can decide to let RST packets being sent
> or not, on a global scale ? (one socket for the whole machine)

The short answer is "any security module that wants to".

And before we go any further, I'm a little surprised that
SELinux doesn't do this already.

>
> smack_sk_alloc_security() uses smk_of_current() : What can be the
> meaning of smk_of_current() in the context of 'kernel' sockets...

Yes, and all of it's callers - to date - have had an appropriate
value of current. It is using the API in the way it is supposed to.
It is assuming a properly formed socket. You want to give it a
cobbled together partial socket structure without task context.
Your predecessor did not have this problem.

>
> Your patch tries to maintain this status quo.
>
> In fact I suggest the following one liner patch, unless you can really
> demonstrate what can be the meaning of providing a fake socket for these
> packets.
>
> This mess only happened because ip_append_data()/ip_push_pending_frames()
> are so complex and use an underlying socket.
>
> But this socket should not be ever used outside of its scope.
>
> diff --git a/net/ipv4/ip_output.c b/net/ipv4/ip_output.c
> index 76dde25..ec410e0 100644
> --- a/net/ipv4/ip_output.c
> +++ b/net/ipv4/ip_output.c
> @@ -1536,6 +1536,7 @@ void ip_send_unicast_reply(struct net *net, struct sk_buff *skb, __be32 daddr,
>  			  arg->csumoffset) = csum_fold(csum_add(nskb->csum,
>  								arg->csum));
>  		nskb->ip_summed = CHECKSUM_NONE;
> +		skb_orphan(nskb);
>  		skb_set_queue_mapping(nskb, skb_get_queue_mapping(skb));
>  		ip_push_pending_frames(sk, &fl4);
>  	}
>
>
>


  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-09 21:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-07 18:12 NULL pointer dereference in selinux_ip_postroute_compat John Stultz
2012-08-07 21:50 ` Paul Moore
2012-08-07 21:50   ` Paul Moore
2012-08-07 21:58   ` John Stultz
2012-08-07 22:01     ` Paul Moore
2012-08-07 22:01       ` Paul Moore
2012-08-07 22:17       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2012-08-07 22:17         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2012-08-07 22:23         ` Paul Moore
2012-08-07 22:23           ` Paul Moore
2012-08-07 22:37         ` John Stultz
2012-08-08 19:14           ` John Stultz
2012-08-08 19:26             ` Paul Moore
2012-08-08 19:26               ` Paul Moore
2012-08-08 19:38               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-08 19:49                 ` John Stultz
2012-08-08 20:04                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-08 19:50                 ` Paul Moore
2012-08-08 19:50                   ` Paul Moore
2012-08-08 20:04                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-08 19:59                 ` Eric Paris
2012-08-08 19:59                   ` Eric Paris
2012-08-08 20:09                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-08 20:32                     ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-08 20:46                       ` Paul Moore
2012-08-08 20:46                         ` Paul Moore
2012-08-08 21:54                         ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-09  0:00                           ` Casey Schaufler
2012-08-09  0:00                             ` Casey Schaufler
2012-08-09 13:30                             ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 13:30                               ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 14:27                               ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-09 15:04                                 ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 15:04                                   ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 14:50                               ` [PATCH] ipv4: tcp: security_sk_alloc() needed for unicast_sock Eric Dumazet
2012-08-09 15:07                                 ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 15:07                                   ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 15:36                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-09 15:59                                     ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 15:59                                       ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 16:05                                     ` Eric Paris
2012-08-09 16:05                                       ` Eric Paris
2012-08-09 16:09                                       ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 16:09                                         ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 17:46                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-09 20:06                                 ` Eric Paris
2012-08-09 20:19                                   ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 20:19                                     ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 20:19                                     ` Paul Moore
2012-08-09 21:29                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-09 21:53                                     ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2012-08-09 21:53                                       ` Casey Schaufler
2012-08-09 22:05                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-09 22:26                                         ` Casey Schaufler
2012-08-09 22:26                                           ` Casey Schaufler
2012-08-09 22:26                                           ` Casey Schaufler
2012-08-09 23:38                                     ` David Miller
2012-08-09 23:56                                       ` [PATCH] ipv4: tcp: unicast_sock should not land outside of TCP stack Eric Dumazet
2012-08-10  4:05                                         ` David Miller
2012-08-08 20:35                     ` NULL pointer dereference in selinux_ip_postroute_compat Paul Moore
2012-08-08 20:35                       ` Paul Moore
2012-08-08 20:51                       ` Eric Paris
2012-08-08 20:51                         ` Eric Paris
2012-08-08 21:03                         ` Paul Moore
2012-08-08 21:03                           ` Paul Moore
2012-08-08 21:09                           ` Eric Paris
2012-08-08 21:09                             ` Eric Paris
2012-08-08 19:29             ` Eric Dumazet
2012-08-08 16:58         ` John Johansen
2012-08-07 22:26       ` John Stultz
2012-08-07 22:31         ` John Stultz

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