From: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl-vYTEC60ixJUAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Mel Gorman <mgorman-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
Andrew Morton
<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org,
David Rientjes <rientjes-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
devel-GEFAQzZX7r8dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Pekka Enberg <penberg-bbCR+/B0CizivPeTLB3BmA@public.gmane.org>,
Suleiman Souhlal
<suleiman-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:55:30 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <507DADA2.2040308@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0000013a6a333867-52b0d904-5ca2-4095-8c46-5a4dfc021cde-000000-p/GC64/jrecnJqMo6gzdpkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
On 10/16/2012 07:31 PM, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012, Glauber Costa wrote:
>
>> To avoid adding markers to the page - and a kmem flag that would
>> necessarily follow, as much as doing page_cgroup lookups for no reason,
>> whoever is marking its allocations with __GFP_KMEMCG flag is responsible
>> for telling the page allocator that this is such an allocation at
>> free_pages() time. This is done by the invocation of
>> __free_accounted_pages() and free_accounted_pages().
>
> Hmmm... The code paths to free pages are often shared between multiple
> subsystems. Are you sure that this is actually working and accurately
> tracks the MEMCG pages?
>
As described above, only call sites that are switched to
free_accounted_pages are affected. There are very few of them. The stack
case is particularly easy to test: every time a process appears, usage
is increased in 8k. Every time a process dies, usage decreases by 8k.
In my other patchseries, I include the object allocators into this. So
again: there are very few call sites actually being patched.
>> +/*
>> + * __free_accounted_pages and free_accounted_pages will free pages allocated
>> + * with __GFP_KMEMCG.
>> + *
>> + * Those pages are accounted to a particular memcg, embedded in the
>> + * corresponding page_cgroup. To avoid adding a hit in the allocator to search
>> + * for that information only to find out that it is NULL for users who have no
>> + * interest in that whatsoever, we provide these functions.
>> + *
>> + * The caller knows better which flags it relies on.
>> + */
>> +void __free_accounted_pages(struct page *page, unsigned int order)
>> +{
>> + memcg_kmem_uncharge_page(page, order);
>> + __free_pages(page, order);
>> +}
>
> If we already are introducing such an API: Could it not be made more
> general so that it can also be used in the future to communicate other
> characteristics of a page on free?
>
I guess so. Which other use case do you have in mind?
In any case, I don't see this as a blocker to this patchset. There is no
reason why it can't be done should the need arise.
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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
devel@openvz.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:55:30 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <507DADA2.2040308@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0000013a6a333867-52b0d904-5ca2-4095-8c46-5a4dfc021cde-000000@email.amazonses.com>
On 10/16/2012 07:31 PM, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012, Glauber Costa wrote:
>
>> To avoid adding markers to the page - and a kmem flag that would
>> necessarily follow, as much as doing page_cgroup lookups for no reason,
>> whoever is marking its allocations with __GFP_KMEMCG flag is responsible
>> for telling the page allocator that this is such an allocation at
>> free_pages() time. This is done by the invocation of
>> __free_accounted_pages() and free_accounted_pages().
>
> Hmmm... The code paths to free pages are often shared between multiple
> subsystems. Are you sure that this is actually working and accurately
> tracks the MEMCG pages?
>
As described above, only call sites that are switched to
free_accounted_pages are affected. There are very few of them. The stack
case is particularly easy to test: every time a process appears, usage
is increased in 8k. Every time a process dies, usage decreases by 8k.
In my other patchseries, I include the object allocators into this. So
again: there are very few call sites actually being patched.
>> +/*
>> + * __free_accounted_pages and free_accounted_pages will free pages allocated
>> + * with __GFP_KMEMCG.
>> + *
>> + * Those pages are accounted to a particular memcg, embedded in the
>> + * corresponding page_cgroup. To avoid adding a hit in the allocator to search
>> + * for that information only to find out that it is NULL for users who have no
>> + * interest in that whatsoever, we provide these functions.
>> + *
>> + * The caller knows better which flags it relies on.
>> + */
>> +void __free_accounted_pages(struct page *page, unsigned int order)
>> +{
>> + memcg_kmem_uncharge_page(page, order);
>> + __free_pages(page, order);
>> +}
>
> If we already are introducing such an API: Could it not be made more
> general so that it can also be used in the future to communicate other
> characteristics of a page on free?
>
I guess so. Which other use case do you have in mind?
In any case, I don't see this as a blocker to this patchset. There is no
reason why it can't be done should the need arise.
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From: Glauber Costa <glommer@parallels.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: <linux-mm@kvack.org>, <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
<kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>, <devel@openvz.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>,
Suleiman Souhlal <suleiman@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 22:55:30 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <507DADA2.2040308@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0000013a6a333867-52b0d904-5ca2-4095-8c46-5a4dfc021cde-000000@email.amazonses.com>
On 10/16/2012 07:31 PM, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012, Glauber Costa wrote:
>
>> To avoid adding markers to the page - and a kmem flag that would
>> necessarily follow, as much as doing page_cgroup lookups for no reason,
>> whoever is marking its allocations with __GFP_KMEMCG flag is responsible
>> for telling the page allocator that this is such an allocation at
>> free_pages() time. This is done by the invocation of
>> __free_accounted_pages() and free_accounted_pages().
>
> Hmmm... The code paths to free pages are often shared between multiple
> subsystems. Are you sure that this is actually working and accurately
> tracks the MEMCG pages?
>
As described above, only call sites that are switched to
free_accounted_pages are affected. There are very few of them. The stack
case is particularly easy to test: every time a process appears, usage
is increased in 8k. Every time a process dies, usage decreases by 8k.
In my other patchseries, I include the object allocators into this. So
again: there are very few call sites actually being patched.
>> +/*
>> + * __free_accounted_pages and free_accounted_pages will free pages allocated
>> + * with __GFP_KMEMCG.
>> + *
>> + * Those pages are accounted to a particular memcg, embedded in the
>> + * corresponding page_cgroup. To avoid adding a hit in the allocator to search
>> + * for that information only to find out that it is NULL for users who have no
>> + * interest in that whatsoever, we provide these functions.
>> + *
>> + * The caller knows better which flags it relies on.
>> + */
>> +void __free_accounted_pages(struct page *page, unsigned int order)
>> +{
>> + memcg_kmem_uncharge_page(page, order);
>> + __free_pages(page, order);
>> +}
>
> If we already are introducing such an API: Could it not be made more
> general so that it can also be used in the future to communicate other
> characteristics of a page on free?
>
I guess so. Which other use case do you have in mind?
In any case, I don't see this as a blocker to this patchset. There is no
reason why it can't be done should the need arise.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-16 18:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 177+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-16 10:16 [PATCH v5 00/14] kmem controller for memcg Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] memcg: Make it possible to use the stock for more than one page Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1350382611-20579-2-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-17 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-17 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-17 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 16:54 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 16:54 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 16:54 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] memcg: Reclaim when more than one page needed Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1350382611-20579-3-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-17 21:46 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 21:46 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 21:46 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] memcg: change defines to an enum Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 21:50 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 21:50 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] kmem accounting basic infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 12:14 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16 12:14 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <1350382611-20579-5-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-17 22:08 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 22:08 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 22:08 ` David Rientjes
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1210171455010.20712-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 17:01 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 17:01 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 17:01 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 19:47 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-18 19:47 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-18 19:37 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-18 19:37 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-18 19:37 ` Tejun Heo
2012-10-17 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-17 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20121017151207.e8bb3db2.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 17:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 17:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 17:03 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] Add a __GFP_KMEMCG flag Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1350382611-20579-6-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-16 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16 12:15 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-17 22:09 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 22:09 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 22:09 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] memcg: kmem controller infrastructure Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 6:40 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-17 6:40 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-17 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-17 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 9:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 9:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 22:06 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-18 22:06 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-19 9:10 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-19 9:10 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-19 9:31 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-19 9:31 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-19 10:00 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-19 10:00 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 22:37 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 22:37 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-18 9:23 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 9:23 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <507FCA90.8060307-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 21:59 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-18 21:59 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-18 21:59 ` David Rientjes
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1210181454100.30894-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-19 10:08 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-19 10:08 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-19 10:08 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-19 20:34 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-19 20:34 ` David Rientjes
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1210191331400.17804-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-22 12:34 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-22 12:34 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-22 12:34 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <50853D47.4030409-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-22 12:51 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-22 12:51 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-22 12:51 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-22 12:52 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-22 12:52 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] mm: Allocate kernel pages to the right memcg Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1350382611-20579-8-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-16 15:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-16 15:31 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-16 15:31 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <0000013a6a333867-52b0d904-5ca2-4095-8c46-5a4dfc021cde-000000-p/GC64/jrecnJqMo6gzdpkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-16 18:55 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
2012-10-16 18:55 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 18:55 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 22:43 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 22:43 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 22:43 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-17 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 9:24 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 9:24 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 9:24 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <507FCADF.20109-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 20:44 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 20:44 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 20:44 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20121017151221.4c420e5a.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 11:53 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 11:53 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 11:53 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] res_counter: return amount of charges after res_counter_uncharge Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1350382611-20579-9-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-17 23:23 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 23:23 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 23:23 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] memcg: kmem accounting lifecycle management Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 23:28 ` David Rientjes
2012-10-17 23:28 ` David Rientjes
[not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1210171624540.20813-X6Q0R45D7oAcqpCFd4KODRPsWskHk0ljAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 6:14 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-18 6:14 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-18 6:14 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-18 9:42 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 9:42 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 9:42 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] memcg: use static branches when code not in use Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] memcg: allow a memcg with kmem charges to be destructed Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-17 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 9:33 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 9:33 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] execute the whole memcg freeing in free_worker Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 6:56 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-17 6:56 ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] protect architectures where THREAD_SIZE >= PAGE_SIZE against fork bombs Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-17 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-17 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20121017151245.f11c4d18.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 9:37 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 9:37 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 9:37 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] Add documentation about the kmem controller Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 10:16 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1350382611-20579-15-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-16 12:23 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16 12:23 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16 12:23 ` Michal Hocko
2012-10-16 18:25 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-16 18:25 ` Christoph Lameter
[not found] ` <0000013a6ad26c73-d043cf97-c44a-45c1-9cae-0a962e93a005-000000-p/GC64/jrecnJqMo6gzdpkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-16 18:55 ` Aristeu Rozanski
2012-10-16 18:55 ` Aristeu Rozanski
2012-10-16 18:55 ` Aristeu Rozanski
2012-10-16 19:02 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 19:02 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-16 19:02 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <507DAF56.9010403-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-16 19:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-16 19:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-16 19:30 ` Christoph Lameter
2012-10-17 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-17 22:12 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 9:38 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 9:38 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <1350382611-20579-1-git-send-email-glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-17 22:11 ` [PATCH v5 00/14] kmem controller for memcg Andrew Morton
2012-10-17 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-17 22:11 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20121017151142.71e1f3c5.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 16:51 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 16:51 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-18 16:51 ` Glauber Costa
[not found] ` <50803379.8000808-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-18 19:21 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 19:21 ` Andrew Morton
2012-10-18 19:21 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20121018122105.2efc2841.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-19 9:55 ` Glauber Costa
2012-10-19 9:55 ` Glauber Costa
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