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From: Lin Feng <linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, bcrl@kvack.org,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, mhocko@suse.cz, hughd@google.com,
	cl@linux.com, mgorman@suse.de, minchan@kernel.org,
	isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com,
	wency@cn.fujitsu.com, tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-aio@kvack.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG REPORT] [mm-hotplug, aio] aio ring_pages can't be offlined
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:42:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B82B0D.8010206@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121129153930.477e9709.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

hi Andrew,

On 11/30/2012 07:39 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Tricky.
> 
> I expect the same problem would occur with pages which are under
> O_DIRECT I/O.  Obviously O_DIRECT pages won't be pinned for such long
> periods, but the durations could still be lengthy (seconds).
the offline retry timeout duration is 2 minutes, so to O_DIRECT pages 
seem maybe not a problem for the moment.
> 
> Worse is a futex page, which could easily remain pinned indefinitely.
> 
> The best I can think of is to make changes in or around
> get_user_pages(), to steal the pages from userspace and replace them
> with non-movable ones before pinning them.  The performance cost of
> something like this would surely be unacceptable for direct-io, but
> maybe OK for the aio ring and futexes.
thanks for your advice.
I want to limit the impact as little as possible, as mentioned above,
direct-io seems not a problem, we needn't touch them. Maybe we can 
just change the use of get_user_pages()(in or around) such as aio 
ring pages. I will try to find a way to do this.

Thanks,
linfeng

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From: Lin Feng <linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, bcrl@kvack.org,
	kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com, mhocko@suse.cz, hughd@google.com,
	cl@linux.com, mgorman@suse.de, minchan@kernel.org,
	isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com, laijs@cn.fujitsu.com,
	wency@cn.fujitsu.com, tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-aio@kvack.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG REPORT] [mm-hotplug, aio] aio ring_pages can't be offlined
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:42:05 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B82B0D.8010206@cn.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121129153930.477e9709.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

hi Andrew,

On 11/30/2012 07:39 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
> Tricky.
> 
> I expect the same problem would occur with pages which are under
> O_DIRECT I/O.  Obviously O_DIRECT pages won't be pinned for such long
> periods, but the durations could still be lengthy (seconds).
the offline retry timeout duration is 2 minutes, so to O_DIRECT pages 
seem maybe not a problem for the moment.
> 
> Worse is a futex page, which could easily remain pinned indefinitely.
> 
> The best I can think of is to make changes in or around
> get_user_pages(), to steal the pages from userspace and replace them
> with non-movable ones before pinning them.  The performance cost of
> something like this would surely be unacceptable for direct-io, but
> maybe OK for the aio ring and futexes.
thanks for your advice.
I want to limit the impact as little as possible, as mentioned above,
direct-io seems not a problem, we needn't touch them. Maybe we can 
just change the use of get_user_pages()(in or around) such as aio 
ring pages. I will try to find a way to do this.

Thanks,
linfeng

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-30  3:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-29  6:54 [BUG REPORT] [mm-hotplug, aio] aio ring_pages can't be offlined Lin Feng
2012-11-29  6:54 ` Lin Feng
2012-11-29  6:54 ` Lin Feng
2012-11-29 23:39 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-29 23:39   ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-29 23:39   ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  0:04   ` Zach Brown
2012-11-30  0:04     ` Zach Brown
2012-11-30  0:04     ` Zach Brown
2012-11-30  3:39     ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  3:39       ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  3:39       ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  3:42   ` Lin Feng [this message]
2012-11-30  3:42     ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  5:57     ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  5:57       ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  7:01       ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  7:01         ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  7:55         ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  7:55           ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30 10:29           ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30 10:29             ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30 10:47             ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30 10:47               ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30 10:47               ` Andrew Morton
2012-12-03  3:00               ` Lin Feng
2012-12-03  3:00                 ` Lin Feng
2012-12-03  3:00                 ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30 11:00           ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-30 11:00             ` Mel Gorman
2012-12-03  2:52             ` Lin Feng
2012-12-03  2:52               ` Lin Feng
2012-12-03 11:37               ` Mel Gorman
2012-12-03 11:37                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-12-03 11:37                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-30  7:13       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-30  7:13         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-30  8:00         ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  8:00           ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  8:00           ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30 10:57   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-30 10:57     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-30 10:57     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-30 15:24 ` Domenico Andreoli
2012-11-30 15:24   ` Domenico Andreoli
2012-11-30 15:24   ` Domenico Andreoli
2012-12-03  2:05   ` Lin Feng
2012-12-03  2:05     ` Lin Feng

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