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From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Lin Feng <linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, bcrl@kvack.org, mhocko@suse.cz,
	hughd@google.com, cl@linux.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	minchan@kernel.org, isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
	tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG REPORT] [mm-hotplug, aio] aio ring_pages can't be offlined
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:13:16 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B85C8C.2030702@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121129215749.acfd872a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

(2012/11/30 14:57), Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:42:05 +0800 Lin Feng <linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>
>> hi Andrew,
>>
>> On 11/30/2012 07:39 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> Tricky.
>>>
>>> I expect the same problem would occur with pages which are under
>>> O_DIRECT I/O.  Obviously O_DIRECT pages won't be pinned for such long
>>> periods, but the durations could still be lengthy (seconds).
>> the offline retry timeout duration is 2 minutes, so to O_DIRECT pages
>> seem maybe not a problem for the moment.
>>>
>>> Worse is a futex page, which could easily remain pinned indefinitely.
>>>
>>> The best I can think of is to make changes in or around
>>> get_user_pages(), to steal the pages from userspace and replace them
>>> with non-movable ones before pinning them.  The performance cost of
>>> something like this would surely be unacceptable for direct-io, but
>>> maybe OK for the aio ring and futexes.
>> thanks for your advice.
>> I want to limit the impact as little as possible, as mentioned above,
>> direct-io seems not a problem, we needn't touch them. Maybe we can
>> just change the use of get_user_pages()(in or around) such as aio
>> ring pages. I will try to find a way to do this.
>
> What about futexes?
>

IIUC, futex's key is now a pair of (mm,address) or (inode, pgoff).
Then, get_user_page() in futex.c will release the page by put_page().
'struct page' is just touched by get_futex_key() to obtain page->mapping info.

Thanks,
-Kame






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From: Kamezawa Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Lin Feng <linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, bcrl@kvack.org, mhocko@suse.cz,
	hughd@google.com, cl@linux.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	minchan@kernel.org, isimatu.yasuaki@jp.fujitsu.com,
	laijs@cn.fujitsu.com, wency@cn.fujitsu.com,
	tangchen@cn.fujitsu.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-aio@kvack.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [BUG REPORT] [mm-hotplug, aio] aio ring_pages can't be offlined
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:13:16 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50B85C8C.2030702@jp.fujitsu.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121129215749.acfd872a.akpm@linux-foundation.org>

(2012/11/30 14:57), Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 11:42:05 +0800 Lin Feng <linfeng@cn.fujitsu.com> wrote:
>
>> hi Andrew,
>>
>> On 11/30/2012 07:39 AM, Andrew Morton wrote:
>>> Tricky.
>>>
>>> I expect the same problem would occur with pages which are under
>>> O_DIRECT I/O.  Obviously O_DIRECT pages won't be pinned for such long
>>> periods, but the durations could still be lengthy (seconds).
>> the offline retry timeout duration is 2 minutes, so to O_DIRECT pages
>> seem maybe not a problem for the moment.
>>>
>>> Worse is a futex page, which could easily remain pinned indefinitely.
>>>
>>> The best I can think of is to make changes in or around
>>> get_user_pages(), to steal the pages from userspace and replace them
>>> with non-movable ones before pinning them.  The performance cost of
>>> something like this would surely be unacceptable for direct-io, but
>>> maybe OK for the aio ring and futexes.
>> thanks for your advice.
>> I want to limit the impact as little as possible, as mentioned above,
>> direct-io seems not a problem, we needn't touch them. Maybe we can
>> just change the use of get_user_pages()(in or around) such as aio
>> ring pages. I will try to find a way to do this.
>
> What about futexes?
>

IIUC, futex's key is now a pair of (mm,address) or (inode, pgoff).
Then, get_user_page() in futex.c will release the page by put_page().
'struct page' is just touched by get_futex_key() to obtain page->mapping info.

Thanks,
-Kame





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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-30  7:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-29  6:54 [BUG REPORT] [mm-hotplug, aio] aio ring_pages can't be offlined Lin Feng
2012-11-29  6:54 ` Lin Feng
2012-11-29  6:54 ` Lin Feng
2012-11-29 23:39 ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-29 23:39   ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-29 23:39   ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  0:04   ` Zach Brown
2012-11-30  0:04     ` Zach Brown
2012-11-30  0:04     ` Zach Brown
2012-11-30  3:39     ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  3:39       ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  3:39       ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  3:42   ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  3:42     ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  5:57     ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  5:57       ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  7:01       ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  7:01         ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30  7:55         ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  7:55           ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30 10:29           ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30 10:29             ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30 10:47             ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30 10:47               ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30 10:47               ` Andrew Morton
2012-12-03  3:00               ` Lin Feng
2012-12-03  3:00                 ` Lin Feng
2012-12-03  3:00                 ` Lin Feng
2012-11-30 11:00           ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-30 11:00             ` Mel Gorman
2012-12-03  2:52             ` Lin Feng
2012-12-03  2:52               ` Lin Feng
2012-12-03 11:37               ` Mel Gorman
2012-12-03 11:37                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-12-03 11:37                 ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-30  7:13       ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki [this message]
2012-11-30  7:13         ` Kamezawa Hiroyuki
2012-11-30  8:00         ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  8:00           ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30  8:00           ` Andrew Morton
2012-11-30 10:57   ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-30 10:57     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-30 10:57     ` Mel Gorman
2012-11-30 15:24 ` Domenico Andreoli
2012-11-30 15:24   ` Domenico Andreoli
2012-11-30 15:24   ` Domenico Andreoli
2012-12-03  2:05   ` Lin Feng
2012-12-03  2:05     ` Lin Feng

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