* Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? @ 2012-11-28 5:09 Jack Bates 2012-11-28 5:25 ` Steven Kath 2012-12-08 20:58 ` Jan Engelhardt 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Jack Bates @ 2012-11-28 5:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: netfilter Is there a way to mark traffic on one machine (proxy server) and match the mark on another machine (router)? I want to shape web traffic differently depending, for example, on the requested domain. Our proxy server already knows about criteria like the requested domain, and our router already does traffic shaping, but the proxy and the router are on two separate machines. Is there a way to mark traffic on one machine and match the mark on another machine? so I can classify traffic on the proxy server and shape it on the router? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-11-28 5:09 Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? Jack Bates @ 2012-11-28 5:25 ` Steven Kath 2012-11-28 12:54 ` Giles Coochey 2012-12-08 20:58 ` Jan Engelhardt 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Steven Kath @ 2012-11-28 5:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jack Bates; +Cc: netfilter > Is there a way to mark traffic on one machine and match the > mark on another machine? so I can classify traffic on the > proxy server and shape it on the router? This question is a good example of the rationale for the TOS/DSCP header on IPv4 packets. netfilter/iptables are quite capable of matching and manipulating the DSCP field, as are some proxy servers. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-11-28 5:25 ` Steven Kath @ 2012-11-28 12:54 ` Giles Coochey 2012-11-30 5:41 ` Jack Bates 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Giles Coochey @ 2012-11-28 12:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Steven Kath; +Cc: Jack Bates, netfilter On 28-11-2012 05:25, Steven Kath wrote: >> Is there a way to mark traffic on one machine and match the >> mark on another machine? so I can classify traffic on the >> proxy server and shape it on the router? > > This question is a good example of the rationale for the > TOS/DSCP header on IPv4 packets. netfilter/iptables are > quite capable of matching and manipulating the DSCP field, > as are some proxy servers. > -- +1 to above. Alternatively, you could route the packet from the proxy to a different, secondary IP on the router. The router could then shape all the traffic that arrives on the secondary IP. You can achieve the secondary IP with sub-interfaces, secondary IP in the same subnet, or separate VLAN interfaces I don't think there is any net-filter tagging, in the way that you can tag packets in rules while it passes internally through the proxy, that would be visible externally to the router. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-11-28 12:54 ` Giles Coochey @ 2012-11-30 5:41 ` Jack Bates 2012-11-30 6:27 ` Eliezer Croitoru 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Jack Bates @ 2012-11-30 5:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: giles; +Cc: Steven Kath, netfilter On 28/11/12 04:54 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: > On 28-11-2012 05:25, Steven Kath wrote: >>> Is there a way to mark traffic on one machine and match the >>> mark on another machine? so I can classify traffic on the >>> proxy server and shape it on the router? >> >> This question is a good example of the rationale for the >> TOS/DSCP header on IPv4 packets. netfilter/iptables are >> quite capable of matching and manipulating the DSCP field, >> as are some proxy servers. >> -- > > +1 to above. > > Alternatively, you could route the packet from the proxy to a different, > secondary IP on the router. The router could then shape all the traffic > that arrives on the secondary IP. You can achieve the secondary IP with > sub-interfaces, secondary IP in the same subnet, or separate VLAN > interfaces > > I don't think there is any net-filter tagging, in the way that you can > tag packets in rules while it passes internally through the proxy, that > would be visible externally to the router. Cool, thanks a lot for this advice Steven and Giles, our proxy server is Apache Traffic Server, so I started work on a simple "remap" plugin to set TOS/DSCP field: http://nottheoilrig.com/trafficserver/201211300/tos.cc It should enable something like the following, in the Traffic Server remap.config: map http://gmail.com @plugin=tos.so @pparam=3 map http://facebook.com @plugin=tos.so @pparam=7 But what about response traffic? Is there a way to copy the TOS/DSCP field to the response from the origin server? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-11-30 5:41 ` Jack Bates @ 2012-11-30 6:27 ` Eliezer Croitoru 2012-12-03 8:43 ` Jack Bates 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Eliezer Croitoru @ 2012-11-30 6:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jack Bates; +Cc: giles, Steven Kath, netfilter You can do a connection marking\remarking based on the TOS of one packet. This way you need to set it only on even one packet of the connection. Regards, Eliezer On 11/30/2012 7:41 AM, Jack Bates wrote: > Cool, thanks a lot for this advice Steven and Giles, our proxy server is > Apache Traffic Server, so I started work on a simple "remap" plugin to > set TOS/DSCP field: http://nottheoilrig.com/trafficserver/201211300/tos.cc > > It should enable something like the following, in the Traffic Server > remap.config: > > map http://gmail.com @plugin=tos.so @pparam=3 > map http://facebook.com @plugin=tos.so @pparam=7 > > But what about response traffic? Is there a way to copy the TOS/DSCP > field to the response from the origin server? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-11-30 6:27 ` Eliezer Croitoru @ 2012-12-03 8:43 ` Jack Bates 2012-12-03 11:52 ` Eliezer Croitoru 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Jack Bates @ 2012-12-03 8:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eliezer Croitoru; +Cc: giles, Steven Kath, netfilter Thank you Eliezer, how do I shape traffic differently depending on the connection mark? Currently I use the ingress qdisc plus ifb0 plus the tbf qdisc to limit the *sum* of our upstream plus downstream traffic to < 1.5mbit (to "own" the queue). Something like: 1: ifconfig ifb0 up 2: 3: insmod sch_ingress 4: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress 5: 6: insmod cls_u32 7: insmod act_mirred 8: tc filter add dev eth0.2 root protocol ip u32 match u32 0 0 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 9: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip u32 match u32 0 0 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 10: 11: insmod sch_tbf 12: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k latency 70ms Then I use the prio qdisc to prioritize traffic: 14: insmod sch_prio 15: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio I can imagine a couple ways of classifying traffic from our proxy server based on the TOS/DSCP field, and also how to set the connection mark based on this field. But how do I classify and shape response traffic from the origin server based on the connection mark? On 29/11/12 10:27 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > You can do a connection marking\remarking based on the TOS of one packet. > This way you need to set it only on even one packet of the connection. > > Regards, > Eliezer > > On 11/30/2012 7:41 AM, Jack Bates wrote: >> Cool, thanks a lot for this advice Steven and Giles, our proxy server is >> Apache Traffic Server, so I started work on a simple "remap" plugin to >> set TOS/DSCP field: >> http://nottheoilrig.com/trafficserver/201211300/tos.cc >> >> It should enable something like the following, in the Traffic Server >> remap.config: >> >> map http://gmail.com @plugin=tos.so @pparam=3 >> map http://facebook.com @plugin=tos.so @pparam=7 >> >> But what about response traffic? Is there a way to copy the TOS/DSCP >> field to the response from the origin server? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-03 8:43 ` Jack Bates @ 2012-12-03 11:52 ` Eliezer Croitoru 2012-12-03 14:32 ` Jack Bates 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Eliezer Croitoru @ 2012-12-03 11:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jack Bates; +Cc: giles, Steven Kath, netfilter You use iptables mark + restore mark based on connection tracking. you can mark the TOS on the outgoing postrouting table. you can take a look at the iptabes man pages: http://ipset.netfilter.org/iptables.man.html which has --restore-mark exaple. Eliezer On 12/3/2012 10:43 AM, Jack Bates wrote: > I can imagine a couple ways of classifying traffic from our proxy server > based on the TOS/DSCP field, and also how to set the connection mark > based on this field. But how do I classify and shape response traffic > from the origin server based on the connection mark? -- Eliezer Croitoru https://www1.ngtech.co.il sip:ngtech@sip2sip.info IT consulting for Nonprofit organizations eliezer <at> ngtech.co.il ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-03 11:52 ` Eliezer Croitoru @ 2012-12-03 14:32 ` Jack Bates 2012-12-05 2:39 ` Anatoly Muliarski 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Jack Bates @ 2012-12-03 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eliezer Croitoru; +Cc: giles, Steven Kath, netfilter Thanks a lot for your help, how can I evaluate --restore-mark before I classify and shape response traffic from the origin server? I think you mean something like: # Copy ctmart to nfmark (e.g. 1, 2) iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CONNMARK --restore-mark # Classify by nfmark (e.g. 1, 2), send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 1 fw flowid 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 2 fw flowid 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip u32 match u32 0 0 flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 Just how can I get --restore-mark to evaluate before tc filter? Another way I can imagine is with the CLASSIFY target: # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 1 -j CLASSIFY 2:1 iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 2 -j CLASSIFY 2:3 iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CLASSIFY 2:2 But I have the same challenge, how can I evaluate the CLASSIFY target before I shape traffic? Or is there another way to classify and shape response traffic from the origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of the request? On 03/12/12 03:52 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > You use iptables mark + restore mark based on connection tracking. > you can mark the TOS on the outgoing postrouting table. > you can take a look at the iptabes man pages: > http://ipset.netfilter.org/iptables.man.html > which has --restore-mark exaple. > > Eliezer > > On 12/3/2012 10:43 AM, Jack Bates wrote: >> I can imagine a couple ways of classifying traffic from our proxy server >> based on the TOS/DSCP field, and also how to set the connection mark >> based on this field. But how do I classify and shape response traffic >> from the origin server based on the connection mark? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-03 14:32 ` Jack Bates @ 2012-12-05 2:39 ` Anatoly Muliarski 2012-12-05 9:12 ` Eliezer Croitoru 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Anatoly Muliarski @ 2012-12-05 2:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jack Bates; +Cc: netfilter Hi Jack, --restore-mark should be used for existing connections and to mark new ones you may use something like that: iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0.2 -m tos --tos 1 -m conntrack --cstate NEW,RELATED -j MARK --set-mark 1 The main idea consists in marking packets on the physical input interface and shaping them on ifb0( where they arrive already marked ). iptables' packet marks exist only in memory of one computer, TOS/DSCP may be used for transmitting a map of them to another one. BTW, use --restore-mark on the output interface of your shaper too. 2012/12/3, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: > Thanks a lot for your help, how can I evaluate --restore-mark before I > classify and shape response traffic from the origin server? > > I think you mean something like: > > # Copy ctmart to nfmark (e.g. 1, 2) > iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CONNMARK --restore-mark > > # Classify by nfmark (e.g. 1, 2), send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 > tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 1 fw flowid > 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 > tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 2 fw flowid > 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 > tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip u32 match u32 0 0 > flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 > > Just how can I get --restore-mark to evaluate before tc filter? > > Another way I can imagine is with the CLASSIFY target: > > # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 > iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 1 -j > CLASSIFY 2:1 > iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 2 -j > CLASSIFY 2:3 > iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CLASSIFY 2:2 > > But I have the same challenge, how can I evaluate the CLASSIFY target > before I shape traffic? > > Or is there another way to classify and shape response traffic from the > origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of the request? > > On 03/12/12 03:52 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >> You use iptables mark + restore mark based on connection tracking. >> you can mark the TOS on the outgoing postrouting table. >> you can take a look at the iptabes man pages: >> http://ipset.netfilter.org/iptables.man.html >> which has --restore-mark exaple. >> >> Eliezer >> >> On 12/3/2012 10:43 AM, Jack Bates wrote: >>> I can imagine a couple ways of classifying traffic from our proxy server >>> based on the TOS/DSCP field, and also how to set the connection mark >>> based on this field. But how do I classify and shape response traffic >>> from the origin server based on the connection mark? > -- > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter" in > the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org > More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html > -- Best regards Anatoly Muliarski ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-05 2:39 ` Anatoly Muliarski @ 2012-12-05 9:12 ` Eliezer Croitoru 2012-12-05 14:17 ` Jack Bates 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Eliezer Croitoru @ 2012-12-05 9:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Anatoly Muliarski; +Cc: Jack Bates, netfilter Thanks Anatoly, My idea was that based on a mark he will jump the packets to another table which HE will mark TOS/DSCP. Eliezer On 12/5/2012 4:39 AM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: > Hi Jack, > > --restore-mark should be used for existing connections and to mark new > ones you may use something like that: > > iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0.2 -m tos --tos 1 -m conntrack > --cstate NEW,RELATED -j MARK --set-mark 1 > > The main idea consists in marking packets on the physical input > interface and shaping them on ifb0( where they arrive already marked > ). > iptables' packet marks exist only in memory of one computer, TOS/DSCP > may be used for transmitting a map of them to another one. > BTW, use --restore-mark on the output interface of your shaper too. > > 2012/12/3, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >> Thanks a lot for your help, how can I evaluate --restore-mark before I >> classify and shape response traffic from the origin server? >> >> I think you mean something like: >> >> # Copy ctmart to nfmark (e.g. 1, 2) >> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CONNMARK --restore-mark >> >> # Classify by nfmark (e.g. 1, 2), send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 1 fw flowid >> 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 2 fw flowid >> 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip u32 match u32 0 0 >> flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >> >> Just how can I get --restore-mark to evaluate before tc filter? >> >> Another way I can imagine is with the CLASSIFY target: >> >> # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 1 -j >> CLASSIFY 2:1 >> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 2 -j >> CLASSIFY 2:3 >> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CLASSIFY 2:2 >> >> But I have the same challenge, how can I evaluate the CLASSIFY target >> before I shape traffic? >> >> Or is there another way to classify and shape response traffic from the >> origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of the request? >> >> On 03/12/12 03:52 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >>> You use iptables mark + restore mark based on connection tracking. >>> you can mark the TOS on the outgoing postrouting table. >>> you can take a look at the iptabes man pages: >>> http://ipset.netfilter.org/iptables.man.html >>> which has --restore-mark exaple. >>> >>> Eliezer >>> >>> On 12/3/2012 10:43 AM, Jack Bates wrote: >>>> I can imagine a couple ways of classifying traffic from our proxy server >>>> based on the TOS/DSCP field, and also how to set the connection mark >>>> based on this field. But how do I classify and shape response traffic >>>> from the origin server based on the connection mark? >> -- >> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter" in >> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >> > > -- Eliezer Croitoru https://www1.ngtech.co.il sip:ngtech@sip2sip.info IT consulting for Nonprofit organizations eliezer <at> ngtech.co.il ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-05 9:12 ` Eliezer Croitoru @ 2012-12-05 14:17 ` Jack Bates 2012-12-06 4:18 ` Anatoly Muliarski 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Jack Bates @ 2012-12-05 14:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Eliezer Croitoru; +Cc: Anatoly Muliarski, netfilter Thanks for this help, I think the marks are getting saved/restored successfully, and I can successfully classify request traffic from the proxy server based on the mark (statistics on the eth0.2 classes are incrementing) but response traffic from the origin server isn't getting classified yet (statistics on the ifb0 classes remain zero). Here is my complete work in progress script. How can I investigate why response traffic isn't getting classified? Are there any more details that would help explain why not? How can I classify traffic based on the restored mark? or is there another way to classify response traffic from the origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of the request? 1: # Save/restore connection mark based on TOS field 2: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -j CONNMARK --restore-mark 3: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 4: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 5: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark 6: 7: ifconfig ifb0 up 8: 9: insmod sch_ingress 10: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress 11: 12: # Classify response traffic from origin server based on restored mark 13: insmod cls_fw 14: insmod act_mirred 15: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 fw flowid 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 16: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 fw flowid 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 17: 18: # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 19: insmod cls_u32 20: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 u32 match u32 0 0 flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 21: 22: # Limit up and downstream to 1mbit, to "own" the queue 23: insmod sch_tbf 24: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k latency 70ms 25: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k latency 70ms 26: 27: # High, low, and "other" priority 28: insmod sch_prio 29: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 parent 1: handle 2 prio 30: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio 31: 32: # Classify request traffic from proxy server based on mark 33: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 fw flowid :1 34: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 fw flowid :3 On 05/12/12 01:12 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: > Thanks Anatoly, > > My idea was that based on a mark he will jump the packets to another > table which HE will mark TOS/DSCP. > > Eliezer > > On 12/5/2012 4:39 AM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: >> Hi Jack, >> >> --restore-mark should be used for existing connections and to mark new >> ones you may use something like that: >> >> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0.2 -m tos --tos 1 -m conntrack >> --cstate NEW,RELATED -j MARK --set-mark 1 >> >> The main idea consists in marking packets on the physical input >> interface and shaping them on ifb0( where they arrive already marked >> ). >> iptables' packet marks exist only in memory of one computer, TOS/DSCP >> may be used for transmitting a map of them to another one. >> BTW, use --restore-mark on the output interface of your shaper too. >> >> 2012/12/3, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >>> Thanks a lot for your help, how can I evaluate --restore-mark before I >>> classify and shape response traffic from the origin server? >>> >>> I think you mean something like: >>> >>> # Copy ctmart to nfmark (e.g. 1, 2) >>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CONNMARK >>> --restore-mark >>> >>> # Classify by nfmark (e.g. 1, 2), send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 1 fw flowid >>> 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 2 fw flowid >>> 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip u32 match u32 0 0 >>> flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>> >>> Just how can I get --restore-mark to evaluate before tc filter? >>> >>> Another way I can imagine is with the CLASSIFY target: >>> >>> # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 1 -j >>> CLASSIFY 2:1 >>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 2 -j >>> CLASSIFY 2:3 >>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CLASSIFY 2:2 >>> >>> But I have the same challenge, how can I evaluate the CLASSIFY target >>> before I shape traffic? >>> >>> Or is there another way to classify and shape response traffic from the >>> origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of the request? >>> >>> On 03/12/12 03:52 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >>>> You use iptables mark + restore mark based on connection tracking. >>>> you can mark the TOS on the outgoing postrouting table. >>>> you can take a look at the iptabes man pages: >>>> http://ipset.netfilter.org/iptables.man.html >>>> which has --restore-mark exaple. >>>> >>>> Eliezer >>>> >>>> On 12/3/2012 10:43 AM, Jack Bates wrote: >>>>> I can imagine a couple ways of classifying traffic from our proxy >>>>> server >>>>> based on the TOS/DSCP field, and also how to set the connection mark >>>>> based on this field. But how do I classify and shape response traffic >>>>> from the origin server based on the connection mark? >>> -- >>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter" in >>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >>> >> >> > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-05 14:17 ` Jack Bates @ 2012-12-06 4:18 ` Anatoly Muliarski 2012-12-10 16:18 ` Jack Bates 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Anatoly Muliarski @ 2012-12-06 4:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jack Bates; +Cc: netfilter IMHO, there is a bit of mess in your scheme. Let's clarify it :) If my assumptions are right then: 1. eth0.2 is the external shaper interface. 2. ifb0 is using for shaping incoming traffic on this interface. To set marks for the traffic you should use something like these: iptables -t manlge -N NEW_CONN iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 # to mark all the unmatched traffic and treat it separately in your shaper iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark 3 iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -j CONNMARK --save-mark iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate INVALID -j DROP iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate ESTABLISHED -j CONNMARK --restore-mark iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate NEW,RELATED -g NEW_CONN 2012/12/5, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: > Thanks for this help, I think the marks are getting saved/restored > successfully, and I can successfully classify request traffic from the > proxy server based on the mark (statistics on the eth0.2 classes are > incrementing) but response traffic from the origin server isn't getting > classified yet (statistics on the ifb0 classes remain zero). > > Here is my complete work in progress script. How can I investigate why > response traffic isn't getting classified? Are there any more details > that would help explain why not? > > How can I classify traffic based on the restored mark? or is there > another way to classify response traffic from the origin server based on > the TOS/DSCP field of the request? > > 1: # Save/restore connection mark based on TOS field > 2: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -j CONNMARK --restore-mark > 3: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark > 1 > 4: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark > 2 > 5: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark > 6: > 7: ifconfig ifb0 up > 8: > 9: insmod sch_ingress > 10: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress > 11: > 12: # Classify response traffic from origin server based on restored > mark > 13: insmod cls_fw > 14: insmod act_mirred > 15: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 > fw flowid 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 > 16: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 > fw flowid 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 > 17: > 18: # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 > 19: insmod cls_u32 > 20: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 u32 > match u32 0 0 flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 > 21: > 22: # Limit up and downstream to 1mbit, to "own" the queue > 23: insmod sch_tbf > 24: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k > latency 70ms > 25: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k > latency 70ms > 26: > 27: # High, low, and "other" priority > 28: insmod sch_prio > 29: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 parent 1: handle 2 prio > 30: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio > 31: > 32: # Classify request traffic from proxy server based on mark > 33: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 fw > flowid :1 > 34: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 fw > flowid :3 > > On 05/12/12 01:12 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >> Thanks Anatoly, >> >> My idea was that based on a mark he will jump the packets to another >> table which HE will mark TOS/DSCP. >> >> Eliezer >> >> On 12/5/2012 4:39 AM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: >>> Hi Jack, >>> >>> --restore-mark should be used for existing connections and to mark new >>> ones you may use something like that: >>> >>> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0.2 -m tos --tos 1 -m conntrack >>> --cstate NEW,RELATED -j MARK --set-mark 1 >>> >>> The main idea consists in marking packets on the physical input >>> interface and shaping them on ifb0( where they arrive already marked >>> ). >>> iptables' packet marks exist only in memory of one computer, TOS/DSCP >>> may be used for transmitting a map of them to another one. >>> BTW, use --restore-mark on the output interface of your shaper too. >>> >>> 2012/12/3, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >>>> Thanks a lot for your help, how can I evaluate --restore-mark before I >>>> classify and shape response traffic from the origin server? >>>> >>>> I think you mean something like: >>>> >>>> # Copy ctmart to nfmark (e.g. 1, 2) >>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CONNMARK >>>> --restore-mark >>>> >>>> # Classify by nfmark (e.g. 1, 2), send unmarked traffic to class >>>> 2:2 >>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 1 fw >>>> flowid >>>> 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 2 fw >>>> flowid >>>> 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip u32 match u32 0 0 >>>> flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>> >>>> Just how can I get --restore-mark to evaluate before tc filter? >>>> >>>> Another way I can imagine is with the CLASSIFY target: >>>> >>>> # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 1 -j >>>> CLASSIFY 2:1 >>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 2 -j >>>> CLASSIFY 2:3 >>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CLASSIFY 2:2 >>>> >>>> But I have the same challenge, how can I evaluate the CLASSIFY target >>>> before I shape traffic? >>>> >>>> Or is there another way to classify and shape response traffic from the >>>> origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of the request? >>>> >>>> On 03/12/12 03:52 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >>>>> You use iptables mark + restore mark based on connection tracking. >>>>> you can mark the TOS on the outgoing postrouting table. >>>>> you can take a look at the iptabes man pages: >>>>> http://ipset.netfilter.org/iptables.man.html >>>>> which has --restore-mark exaple. >>>>> >>>>> Eliezer >>>>> >>>>> On 12/3/2012 10:43 AM, Jack Bates wrote: >>>>>> I can imagine a couple ways of classifying traffic from our proxy >>>>>> server >>>>>> based on the TOS/DSCP field, and also how to set the connection mark >>>>>> based on this field. But how do I classify and shape response traffic >>>>>> from the origin server based on the connection mark? >>>> -- >>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter" in >>>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >>>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >>>> >>> >>> >> > -- Best regards Anatoly Muliarski ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-06 4:18 ` Anatoly Muliarski @ 2012-12-10 16:18 ` Jack Bates 2012-12-10 20:11 ` Anatoly Muliarski 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Jack Bates @ 2012-12-10 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Anatoly Muliarski; +Cc: netfilter Thank you for this clarification, and your assumptions are correct: I'm trying to prioritize incoming and outgoing traffic on eth0.2, ifb0 is for shaping the incoming traffic. But I'm still failing to filter incoming traffic based on the restored mark: statistics on the ifb0 qdiscs and classes remain zero. Filtering outgoing traffic is working as expected, statistics on the eth0.2 classes are incrementing as expected, which I think means that the PREROUTING --restore-mark target is working? Do you have any other suggestions how to investigate why incoming traffic isn't getting filtered? or is there another way to classify response traffic from the origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of the request from the proxy server? Are there any more details that would help explain the problem? Here is the clarified script: 1: iptables -N NEW_CONN -t mangle 2: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 3: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 4: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark 3 5: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark 6: 7: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID -j DROP 8: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j CONNMARK --restore-mark 9: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,RELATED -j NEW_CONN 10: 11: ifconfig ifb0 up 12: 13: insmod sch_ingress 14: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress 15: 16: # Classify response traffic from origin server based on restored mark 17: insmod cls_fw 18: insmod act_mirred 19: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 fw flowid 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 20: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 fw flowid 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 21: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 3 fw flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 22: 23: # Limit up and downstream to 1mbit, to "own" the queue 24: insmod sch_tbf 25: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k latency 70ms 26: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k latency 70ms 27: 28: # High, low, and "other" priority 29: insmod sch_prio 30: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 parent 1: handle 2 prio 31: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio 32: 33: # Classify request traffic from proxy server based on mark 34: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 fw flowid :1 35: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 fw flowid :3 36: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 3 fw flowid :2 On 05/12/12 08:18 PM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: > IMHO, there is a bit of mess in your scheme. > Let's clarify it :) > > If my assumptions are right then: > 1. eth0.2 is the external shaper interface. > 2. ifb0 is using for shaping incoming traffic on this interface. > > To set marks for the traffic you should use something like these: > > iptables -t manlge -N NEW_CONN > iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 > iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 > # to mark all the unmatched traffic and treat it separately in your shaper > iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark 3 > iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -j CONNMARK --save-mark > > iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate INVALID -j DROP > iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate ESTABLISHED -j > CONNMARK --restore-mark > iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate NEW,RELATED -g NEW_CONN > > > 2012/12/5, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >> Thanks for this help, I think the marks are getting saved/restored >> successfully, and I can successfully classify request traffic from the >> proxy server based on the mark (statistics on the eth0.2 classes are >> incrementing) but response traffic from the origin server isn't getting >> classified yet (statistics on the ifb0 classes remain zero). >> >> Here is my complete work in progress script. How can I investigate why >> response traffic isn't getting classified? Are there any more details >> that would help explain why not? >> >> How can I classify traffic based on the restored mark? or is there >> another way to classify response traffic from the origin server based on >> the TOS/DSCP field of the request? >> >> 1: # Save/restore connection mark based on TOS field >> 2: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -j CONNMARK --restore-mark >> 3: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark >> 1 >> 4: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark >> 2 >> 5: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark >> 6: >> 7: ifconfig ifb0 up >> 8: >> 9: insmod sch_ingress >> 10: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress >> 11: >> 12: # Classify response traffic from origin server based on restored >> mark >> 13: insmod cls_fw >> 14: insmod act_mirred >> 15: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 >> fw flowid 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >> 16: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 >> fw flowid 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >> 17: >> 18: # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >> 19: insmod cls_u32 >> 20: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 u32 >> match u32 0 0 flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >> 21: >> 22: # Limit up and downstream to 1mbit, to "own" the queue >> 23: insmod sch_tbf >> 24: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k >> latency 70ms >> 25: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k >> latency 70ms >> 26: >> 27: # High, low, and "other" priority >> 28: insmod sch_prio >> 29: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 parent 1: handle 2 prio >> 30: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio >> 31: >> 32: # Classify request traffic from proxy server based on mark >> 33: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 fw >> flowid :1 >> 34: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 fw >> flowid :3 >> >> On 05/12/12 01:12 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >>> Thanks Anatoly, >>> >>> My idea was that based on a mark he will jump the packets to another >>> table which HE will mark TOS/DSCP. >>> >>> Eliezer >>> >>> On 12/5/2012 4:39 AM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: >>>> Hi Jack, >>>> >>>> --restore-mark should be used for existing connections and to mark new >>>> ones you may use something like that: >>>> >>>> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0.2 -m tos --tos 1 -m conntrack >>>> --cstate NEW,RELATED -j MARK --set-mark 1 >>>> >>>> The main idea consists in marking packets on the physical input >>>> interface and shaping them on ifb0( where they arrive already marked >>>> ). >>>> iptables' packet marks exist only in memory of one computer, TOS/DSCP >>>> may be used for transmitting a map of them to another one. >>>> BTW, use --restore-mark on the output interface of your shaper too. >>>> >>>> 2012/12/3, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >>>>> Thanks a lot for your help, how can I evaluate --restore-mark before I >>>>> classify and shape response traffic from the origin server? >>>>> >>>>> I think you mean something like: >>>>> >>>>> # Copy ctmart to nfmark (e.g. 1, 2) >>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CONNMARK >>>>> --restore-mark >>>>> >>>>> # Classify by nfmark (e.g. 1, 2), send unmarked traffic to class >>>>> 2:2 >>>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 1 fw >>>>> flowid >>>>> 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 2 fw >>>>> flowid >>>>> 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip u32 match u32 0 0 >>>>> flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>> >>>>> Just how can I get --restore-mark to evaluate before tc filter? >>>>> >>>>> Another way I can imagine is with the CLASSIFY target: >>>>> >>>>> # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 1 -j >>>>> CLASSIFY 2:1 >>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 2 -j >>>>> CLASSIFY 2:3 >>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CLASSIFY 2:2 >>>>> >>>>> But I have the same challenge, how can I evaluate the CLASSIFY target >>>>> before I shape traffic? >>>>> >>>>> Or is there another way to classify and shape response traffic from the >>>>> origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of the request? >>>>> >>>>> On 03/12/12 03:52 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >>>>>> You use iptables mark + restore mark based on connection tracking. >>>>>> you can mark the TOS on the outgoing postrouting table. >>>>>> you can take a look at the iptabes man pages: >>>>>> http://ipset.netfilter.org/iptables.man.html >>>>>> which has --restore-mark exaple. >>>>>> >>>>>> Eliezer >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/3/2012 10:43 AM, Jack Bates wrote: >>>>>>> I can imagine a couple ways of classifying traffic from our proxy >>>>>>> server >>>>>>> based on the TOS/DSCP field, and also how to set the connection mark >>>>>>> based on this field. But how do I classify and shape response traffic >>>>>>> from the origin server based on the connection mark? >>>>> -- >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter" in >>>>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >>>>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-10 16:18 ` Jack Bates @ 2012-12-10 20:11 ` Anatoly Muliarski 2012-12-12 15:25 ` Jack Bates 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Anatoly Muliarski @ 2012-12-10 20:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jack Bates; +Cc: netfilter IMHO, the problem lies in next - incoming packets on eth0.2 have no mark and therefore they cannot be forwarded into ifb0 on the current classification scheme. You should redirect all incoming packets( or use non-mark redirection criteria ) into ifb0 and then classify and shape them on ifb0 device. To more clarify the way of a packet look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Netfilter-packet-flow.svg 2012/12/10, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: > Thank you for this clarification, and your assumptions are correct: I'm > trying to prioritize incoming and outgoing traffic on eth0.2, ifb0 is > for shaping the incoming traffic. > > But I'm still failing to filter incoming traffic based on the restored > mark: statistics on the ifb0 qdiscs and classes remain zero. Filtering > outgoing traffic is working as expected, statistics on the eth0.2 > classes are incrementing as expected, which I think means that the > PREROUTING --restore-mark target is working? > > Do you have any other suggestions how to investigate why incoming > traffic isn't getting filtered? or is there another way to classify > response traffic from the origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of > the request from the proxy server? Are there any more details that would > help explain the problem? > > Here is the clarified script: > > 1: iptables -N NEW_CONN -t mangle > 2: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 > 3: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 > 4: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark 3 > 5: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark > 6: > 7: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID > -j DROP > 8: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate > ESTABLISHED -j CONNMARK --restore-mark > 9: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate > NEW,RELATED -j NEW_CONN > 10: > 11: ifconfig ifb0 up > 12: > 13: insmod sch_ingress > 14: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress > 15: > 16: # Classify response traffic from origin server based on restored > mark > 17: insmod cls_fw > 18: insmod act_mirred > 19: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 > fw flowid 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 > 20: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 > fw flowid 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 > 21: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 3 > fw flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 > 22: > 23: # Limit up and downstream to 1mbit, to "own" the queue > 24: insmod sch_tbf > 25: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k > latency 70ms > 26: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k > latency 70ms > 27: > 28: # High, low, and "other" priority > 29: insmod sch_prio > 30: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 parent 1: handle 2 prio > 31: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio > 32: > 33: # Classify request traffic from proxy server based on mark > 34: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 fw > flowid :1 > 35: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 fw > flowid :3 > 36: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 3 fw > flowid :2 > > On 05/12/12 08:18 PM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: >> IMHO, there is a bit of mess in your scheme. >> Let's clarify it :) >> >> If my assumptions are right then: >> 1. eth0.2 is the external shaper interface. >> 2. ifb0 is using for shaping incoming traffic on this interface. >> >> To set marks for the traffic you should use something like these: >> >> iptables -t manlge -N NEW_CONN >> iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 >> iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 >> # to mark all the unmatched traffic and treat it separately in your >> shaper >> iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark 3 >> iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -j CONNMARK --save-mark >> >> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate INVALID -j DROP >> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate ESTABLISHED -j >> CONNMARK --restore-mark >> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate NEW,RELATED -g >> NEW_CONN >> >> >> 2012/12/5, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >>> Thanks for this help, I think the marks are getting saved/restored >>> successfully, and I can successfully classify request traffic from the >>> proxy server based on the mark (statistics on the eth0.2 classes are >>> incrementing) but response traffic from the origin server isn't getting >>> classified yet (statistics on the ifb0 classes remain zero). >>> >>> Here is my complete work in progress script. How can I investigate why >>> response traffic isn't getting classified? Are there any more details >>> that would help explain why not? >>> >>> How can I classify traffic based on the restored mark? or is there >>> another way to classify response traffic from the origin server based on >>> the TOS/DSCP field of the request? >>> >>> 1: # Save/restore connection mark based on TOS field >>> 2: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -j CONNMARK --restore-mark >>> 3: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK >>> --set-mark >>> 1 >>> 4: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK >>> --set-mark >>> 2 >>> 5: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark >>> 6: >>> 7: ifconfig ifb0 up >>> 8: >>> 9: insmod sch_ingress >>> 10: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress >>> 11: >>> 12: # Classify response traffic from origin server based on restored >>> mark >>> 13: insmod cls_fw >>> 14: insmod act_mirred >>> 15: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle >>> 1 >>> fw flowid 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>> 16: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle >>> 2 >>> fw flowid 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>> 17: >>> 18: # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >>> 19: insmod cls_u32 >>> 20: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 u32 >>> match u32 0 0 flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>> 21: >>> 22: # Limit up and downstream to 1mbit, to "own" the queue >>> 23: insmod sch_tbf >>> 24: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k >>> latency 70ms >>> 25: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k >>> latency 70ms >>> 26: >>> 27: # High, low, and "other" priority >>> 28: insmod sch_prio >>> 29: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 parent 1: handle 2 prio >>> 30: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio >>> 31: >>> 32: # Classify request traffic from proxy server based on mark >>> 33: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 >>> fw >>> flowid :1 >>> 34: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 >>> fw >>> flowid :3 >>> >>> On 05/12/12 01:12 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >>>> Thanks Anatoly, >>>> >>>> My idea was that based on a mark he will jump the packets to another >>>> table which HE will mark TOS/DSCP. >>>> >>>> Eliezer >>>> >>>> On 12/5/2012 4:39 AM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: >>>>> Hi Jack, >>>>> >>>>> --restore-mark should be used for existing connections and to mark new >>>>> ones you may use something like that: >>>>> >>>>> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0.2 -m tos --tos 1 -m conntrack >>>>> --cstate NEW,RELATED -j MARK --set-mark 1 >>>>> >>>>> The main idea consists in marking packets on the physical input >>>>> interface and shaping them on ifb0( where they arrive already marked >>>>> ). >>>>> iptables' packet marks exist only in memory of one computer, TOS/DSCP >>>>> may be used for transmitting a map of them to another one. >>>>> BTW, use --restore-mark on the output interface of your shaper too. >>>>> >>>>> 2012/12/3, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >>>>>> Thanks a lot for your help, how can I evaluate --restore-mark before >>>>>> I >>>>>> classify and shape response traffic from the origin server? >>>>>> >>>>>> I think you mean something like: >>>>>> >>>>>> # Copy ctmart to nfmark (e.g. 1, 2) >>>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CONNMARK >>>>>> --restore-mark >>>>>> >>>>>> # Classify by nfmark (e.g. 1, 2), send unmarked traffic to class >>>>>> 2:2 >>>>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 1 fw >>>>>> flowid >>>>>> 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 2 fw >>>>>> flowid >>>>>> 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip u32 match u32 0 >>>>>> 0 >>>>>> flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>>> >>>>>> Just how can I get --restore-mark to evaluate before tc filter? >>>>>> >>>>>> Another way I can imagine is with the CLASSIFY target: >>>>>> >>>>>> # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >>>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 1 >>>>>> -j >>>>>> CLASSIFY 2:1 >>>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 2 >>>>>> -j >>>>>> CLASSIFY 2:3 >>>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CLASSIFY 2:2 >>>>>> >>>>>> But I have the same challenge, how can I evaluate the CLASSIFY target >>>>>> before I shape traffic? >>>>>> >>>>>> Or is there another way to classify and shape response traffic from >>>>>> the >>>>>> origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of the request? >>>>>> >>>>>> On 03/12/12 03:52 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >>>>>>> You use iptables mark + restore mark based on connection tracking. >>>>>>> you can mark the TOS on the outgoing postrouting table. >>>>>>> you can take a look at the iptabes man pages: >>>>>>> http://ipset.netfilter.org/iptables.man.html >>>>>>> which has --restore-mark exaple. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Eliezer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 10:43 AM, Jack Bates wrote: >>>>>>>> I can imagine a couple ways of classifying traffic from our proxy >>>>>>>> server >>>>>>>> based on the TOS/DSCP field, and also how to set the connection >>>>>>>> mark >>>>>>>> based on this field. But how do I classify and shape response >>>>>>>> traffic >>>>>>>> from the origin server based on the connection mark? >>>>>> -- >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter" >>>>>> in >>>>>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >>>>>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > -- Best regards Anatoly Muliarski ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-10 20:11 ` Anatoly Muliarski @ 2012-12-12 15:25 ` Jack Bates 2012-12-13 5:06 ` Anatoly Muliarski 2012-12-13 5:45 ` Andrew Collins 0 siblings, 2 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Jack Bates @ 2012-12-12 15:25 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Anatoly Muliarski; +Cc: netfilter Thanks for this advice Anatoly, I corrected the script to redirect all incoming traffic to ifb0, and now statistics on the ifb0 classes and qdiscs are incrementing, but they're still not incrementing in the way I expect. Outgoing traffic is still getting classified as expected: If I make a request with TOS 28, I watch the statistics of eth0.2 class 2:3 increment, but the response causes ifb0 class 2:2 to increment, not 2:3. I think that the TOS field is correctly matched and the mark is correctly saved and restored, but only outgoing traffic is getting classified based on the mark? Do you have any more suggestions how to investigate why incoming traffic isn't getting classified? or is there another way to classify response traffic based on the TOS/DSCP field of the request? Here is the corrected script: 1: iptables -N NEW_CONN -t mangle 2: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 3: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 4: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark 3 5: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark 6: 7: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID -j DROP 8: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j CONNMARK --restore-mark 9: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,RELATED -j NEW_CONN 10: 11: ifconfig ifb0 up 12: 13: insmod sch_ingress 14: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress 15: 16: insmod cls_u32 17: insmod act_mirred 18: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 u32 match u32 0 0 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 19: 20: # Limit up and downstream to 1mbit, to "own" the queue 21: insmod sch_tbf 22: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k latency 70ms 23: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k latency 70ms 24: 25: # High, low, and "other" priority 26: insmod sch_prio 27: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 parent 1: handle 2 prio 28: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio 29: 30: insmod cls_fw 31: 32: # Classify request traffic from proxy server based on mark 33: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 fw flowid :1 34: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 fw flowid :3 35: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 3 fw flowid :2 36: 37: # Classify response traffic from origin server based on restored mark 38: tc filter add dev ifb0 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 fw flowid :1 39: tc filter add dev ifb0 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 fw flowid :3 40: tc filter add dev ifb0 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 3 fw flowid :2 On 10/12/12 12:11 PM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: > IMHO, the problem lies in next - incoming packets on eth0.2 have no > mark and therefore they cannot be forwarded into ifb0 on the current > classification scheme. You should redirect all incoming packets( or > use non-mark redirection criteria ) into ifb0 and then classify and > shape them on ifb0 device. > > To more clarify the way of a packet look at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Netfilter-packet-flow.svg > > 2012/12/10, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >> Thank you for this clarification, and your assumptions are correct: I'm >> trying to prioritize incoming and outgoing traffic on eth0.2, ifb0 is >> for shaping the incoming traffic. >> >> But I'm still failing to filter incoming traffic based on the restored >> mark: statistics on the ifb0 qdiscs and classes remain zero. Filtering >> outgoing traffic is working as expected, statistics on the eth0.2 >> classes are incrementing as expected, which I think means that the >> PREROUTING --restore-mark target is working? >> >> Do you have any other suggestions how to investigate why incoming >> traffic isn't getting filtered? or is there another way to classify >> response traffic from the origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of >> the request from the proxy server? Are there any more details that would >> help explain the problem? >> >> Here is the clarified script: >> >> 1: iptables -N NEW_CONN -t mangle >> 2: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 >> 3: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 >> 4: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark 3 >> 5: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark >> 6: >> 7: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID >> -j DROP >> 8: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate >> ESTABLISHED -j CONNMARK --restore-mark >> 9: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate >> NEW,RELATED -j NEW_CONN >> 10: >> 11: ifconfig ifb0 up >> 12: >> 13: insmod sch_ingress >> 14: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress >> 15: >> 16: # Classify response traffic from origin server based on restored >> mark >> 17: insmod cls_fw >> 18: insmod act_mirred >> 19: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 >> fw flowid 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >> 20: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 >> fw flowid 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >> 21: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 3 >> fw flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >> 22: >> 23: # Limit up and downstream to 1mbit, to "own" the queue >> 24: insmod sch_tbf >> 25: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k >> latency 70ms >> 26: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k >> latency 70ms >> 27: >> 28: # High, low, and "other" priority >> 29: insmod sch_prio >> 30: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 parent 1: handle 2 prio >> 31: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio >> 32: >> 33: # Classify request traffic from proxy server based on mark >> 34: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 fw >> flowid :1 >> 35: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 fw >> flowid :3 >> 36: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 3 fw >> flowid :2 >> >> On 05/12/12 08:18 PM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: >>> IMHO, there is a bit of mess in your scheme. >>> Let's clarify it :) >>> >>> If my assumptions are right then: >>> 1. eth0.2 is the external shaper interface. >>> 2. ifb0 is using for shaping incoming traffic on this interface. >>> >>> To set marks for the traffic you should use something like these: >>> >>> iptables -t manlge -N NEW_CONN >>> iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 >>> iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 >>> # to mark all the unmatched traffic and treat it separately in your >>> shaper >>> iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark 3 >>> iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -j CONNMARK --save-mark >>> >>> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate INVALID -j DROP >>> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate ESTABLISHED -j >>> CONNMARK --restore-mark >>> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate NEW,RELATED -g >>> NEW_CONN >>> >>> >>> 2012/12/5, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >>>> Thanks for this help, I think the marks are getting saved/restored >>>> successfully, and I can successfully classify request traffic from the >>>> proxy server based on the mark (statistics on the eth0.2 classes are >>>> incrementing) but response traffic from the origin server isn't getting >>>> classified yet (statistics on the ifb0 classes remain zero). >>>> >>>> Here is my complete work in progress script. How can I investigate why >>>> response traffic isn't getting classified? Are there any more details >>>> that would help explain why not? >>>> >>>> How can I classify traffic based on the restored mark? or is there >>>> another way to classify response traffic from the origin server based on >>>> the TOS/DSCP field of the request? >>>> >>>> 1: # Save/restore connection mark based on TOS field >>>> 2: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -j CONNMARK --restore-mark >>>> 3: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK >>>> --set-mark >>>> 1 >>>> 4: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK >>>> --set-mark >>>> 2 >>>> 5: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark >>>> 6: >>>> 7: ifconfig ifb0 up >>>> 8: >>>> 9: insmod sch_ingress >>>> 10: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress >>>> 11: >>>> 12: # Classify response traffic from origin server based on restored >>>> mark >>>> 13: insmod cls_fw >>>> 14: insmod act_mirred >>>> 15: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle >>>> 1 >>>> fw flowid 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>> 16: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle >>>> 2 >>>> fw flowid 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>> 17: >>>> 18: # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >>>> 19: insmod cls_u32 >>>> 20: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 u32 >>>> match u32 0 0 flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>> 21: >>>> 22: # Limit up and downstream to 1mbit, to "own" the queue >>>> 23: insmod sch_tbf >>>> 24: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k >>>> latency 70ms >>>> 25: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k >>>> latency 70ms >>>> 26: >>>> 27: # High, low, and "other" priority >>>> 28: insmod sch_prio >>>> 29: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 parent 1: handle 2 prio >>>> 30: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio >>>> 31: >>>> 32: # Classify request traffic from proxy server based on mark >>>> 33: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 >>>> fw >>>> flowid :1 >>>> 34: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 >>>> fw >>>> flowid :3 >>>> >>>> On 05/12/12 01:12 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >>>>> Thanks Anatoly, >>>>> >>>>> My idea was that based on a mark he will jump the packets to another >>>>> table which HE will mark TOS/DSCP. >>>>> >>>>> Eliezer >>>>> >>>>> On 12/5/2012 4:39 AM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: >>>>>> Hi Jack, >>>>>> >>>>>> --restore-mark should be used for existing connections and to mark new >>>>>> ones you may use something like that: >>>>>> >>>>>> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0.2 -m tos --tos 1 -m conntrack >>>>>> --cstate NEW,RELATED -j MARK --set-mark 1 >>>>>> >>>>>> The main idea consists in marking packets on the physical input >>>>>> interface and shaping them on ifb0( where they arrive already marked >>>>>> ). >>>>>> iptables' packet marks exist only in memory of one computer, TOS/DSCP >>>>>> may be used for transmitting a map of them to another one. >>>>>> BTW, use --restore-mark on the output interface of your shaper too. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2012/12/3, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your help, how can I evaluate --restore-mark before >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> classify and shape response traffic from the origin server? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think you mean something like: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # Copy ctmart to nfmark (e.g. 1, 2) >>>>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CONNMARK >>>>>>> --restore-mark >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # Classify by nfmark (e.g. 1, 2), send unmarked traffic to class >>>>>>> 2:2 >>>>>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 1 fw >>>>>>> flowid >>>>>>> 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 2 fw >>>>>>> flowid >>>>>>> 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip u32 match u32 0 >>>>>>> 0 >>>>>>> flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just how can I get --restore-mark to evaluate before tc filter? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Another way I can imagine is with the CLASSIFY target: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >>>>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 1 >>>>>>> -j >>>>>>> CLASSIFY 2:1 >>>>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark 2 >>>>>>> -j >>>>>>> CLASSIFY 2:3 >>>>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CLASSIFY 2:2 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But I have the same challenge, how can I evaluate the CLASSIFY target >>>>>>> before I shape traffic? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Or is there another way to classify and shape response traffic from >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of the request? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 03/12/12 03:52 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >>>>>>>> You use iptables mark + restore mark based on connection tracking. >>>>>>>> you can mark the TOS on the outgoing postrouting table. >>>>>>>> you can take a look at the iptabes man pages: >>>>>>>> http://ipset.netfilter.org/iptables.man.html >>>>>>>> which has --restore-mark exaple. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eliezer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 10:43 AM, Jack Bates wrote: >>>>>>>>> I can imagine a couple ways of classifying traffic from our proxy >>>>>>>>> server >>>>>>>>> based on the TOS/DSCP field, and also how to set the connection >>>>>>>>> mark >>>>>>>>> based on this field. But how do I classify and shape response >>>>>>>>> traffic >>>>>>>>> from the origin server based on the connection mark? >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe netfilter" >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >>>>>>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-12 15:25 ` Jack Bates @ 2012-12-13 5:06 ` Anatoly Muliarski 2012-12-13 5:45 ` Andrew Collins 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Anatoly Muliarski @ 2012-12-13 5:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jack Bates; +Cc: netfilter Quickly, I have 2 ideas: 1. Check if you load conntrack module( or conntrack support is built-in in your kernel ) 2. For a short period of time or for specific conditions try to use: iptables -t raw -A PREROUTING ( ... here is the conditions ...) -j TRACE Then use can analyze your syslog and see the way of packet flow. 2012/12/12, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: > Thanks for this advice Anatoly, I corrected the script to redirect all > incoming traffic to ifb0, and now statistics on the ifb0 classes and > qdiscs are incrementing, but they're still not incrementing in the way I > expect. Outgoing traffic is still getting classified as expected: If I > make a request with TOS 28, I watch the statistics of eth0.2 class 2:3 > increment, but the response causes ifb0 class 2:2 to increment, not 2:3. > > I think that the TOS field is correctly matched and the mark is > correctly saved and restored, but only outgoing traffic is getting > classified based on the mark? Do you have any more suggestions how to > investigate why incoming traffic isn't getting classified? or is there > another way to classify response traffic based on the TOS/DSCP field of > the request? > > Here is the corrected script: > > 1: iptables -N NEW_CONN -t mangle > 2: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 > 3: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 > 4: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark 3 > 5: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark > 6: > 7: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID > -j DROP > 8: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate > ESTABLISHED -j CONNMARK --restore-mark > 9: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate > NEW,RELATED -j NEW_CONN > 10: > 11: ifconfig ifb0 up > 12: > 13: insmod sch_ingress > 14: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress > 15: > 16: insmod cls_u32 > 17: insmod act_mirred > 18: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 > u32 match u32 0 0 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 > 19: > 20: # Limit up and downstream to 1mbit, to "own" the queue > 21: insmod sch_tbf > 22: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k > latency 70ms > 23: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k > latency 70ms > 24: > 25: # High, low, and "other" priority > 26: insmod sch_prio > 27: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 parent 1: handle 2 prio > 28: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio > 29: > 30: insmod cls_fw > 31: > 32: # Classify request traffic from proxy server based on mark > 33: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 fw > flowid :1 > 34: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 fw > flowid :3 > 35: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 3 fw > flowid :2 > 36: > 37: # Classify response traffic from origin server based on restored > mark > 38: tc filter add dev ifb0 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 fw > flowid :1 > 39: tc filter add dev ifb0 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 fw > flowid :3 > 40: tc filter add dev ifb0 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 3 fw > flowid :2 > > On 10/12/12 12:11 PM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: >> IMHO, the problem lies in next - incoming packets on eth0.2 have no >> mark and therefore they cannot be forwarded into ifb0 on the current >> classification scheme. You should redirect all incoming packets( or >> use non-mark redirection criteria ) into ifb0 and then classify and >> shape them on ifb0 device. >> >> To more clarify the way of a packet look at >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Netfilter-packet-flow.svg >> >> 2012/12/10, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >>> Thank you for this clarification, and your assumptions are correct: I'm >>> trying to prioritize incoming and outgoing traffic on eth0.2, ifb0 is >>> for shaping the incoming traffic. >>> >>> But I'm still failing to filter incoming traffic based on the restored >>> mark: statistics on the ifb0 qdiscs and classes remain zero. Filtering >>> outgoing traffic is working as expected, statistics on the eth0.2 >>> classes are incrementing as expected, which I think means that the >>> PREROUTING --restore-mark target is working? >>> >>> Do you have any other suggestions how to investigate why incoming >>> traffic isn't getting filtered? or is there another way to classify >>> response traffic from the origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of >>> the request from the proxy server? Are there any more details that would >>> help explain the problem? >>> >>> Here is the clarified script: >>> >>> 1: iptables -N NEW_CONN -t mangle >>> 2: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark >>> 1 >>> 3: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark >>> 2 >>> 4: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK >>> --set-mark 3 >>> 5: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark >>> 6: >>> 7: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID >>> -j DROP >>> 8: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate >>> ESTABLISHED -j CONNMARK --restore-mark >>> 9: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate >>> NEW,RELATED -j NEW_CONN >>> 10: >>> 11: ifconfig ifb0 up >>> 12: >>> 13: insmod sch_ingress >>> 14: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress >>> 15: >>> 16: # Classify response traffic from origin server based on restored >>> mark >>> 17: insmod cls_fw >>> 18: insmod act_mirred >>> 19: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle >>> 1 >>> fw flowid 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>> 20: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle >>> 2 >>> fw flowid 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>> 21: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 handle >>> 3 >>> fw flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>> 22: >>> 23: # Limit up and downstream to 1mbit, to "own" the queue >>> 24: insmod sch_tbf >>> 25: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k >>> latency 70ms >>> 26: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k >>> latency 70ms >>> 27: >>> 28: # High, low, and "other" priority >>> 29: insmod sch_prio >>> 30: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 parent 1: handle 2 prio >>> 31: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio >>> 32: >>> 33: # Classify request traffic from proxy server based on mark >>> 34: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 1 >>> fw >>> flowid :1 >>> 35: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 2 >>> fw >>> flowid :3 >>> 36: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle 3 >>> fw >>> flowid :2 >>> >>> On 05/12/12 08:18 PM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: >>>> IMHO, there is a bit of mess in your scheme. >>>> Let's clarify it :) >>>> >>>> If my assumptions are right then: >>>> 1. eth0.2 is the external shaper interface. >>>> 2. ifb0 is using for shaping incoming traffic on this interface. >>>> >>>> To set marks for the traffic you should use something like these: >>>> >>>> iptables -t manlge -N NEW_CONN >>>> iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 >>>> iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 >>>> # to mark all the unmatched traffic and treat it separately in your >>>> shaper >>>> iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark 3 >>>> iptables -t mangle -A NEW_CONN -j CONNMARK --save-mark >>>> >>>> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate INVALID -j DROP >>>> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate ESTABLISHED -j >>>> CONNMARK --restore-mark >>>> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -m conntrack --cstate NEW,RELATED -g >>>> NEW_CONN >>>> >>>> >>>> 2012/12/5, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >>>>> Thanks for this help, I think the marks are getting saved/restored >>>>> successfully, and I can successfully classify request traffic from the >>>>> proxy server based on the mark (statistics on the eth0.2 classes are >>>>> incrementing) but response traffic from the origin server isn't >>>>> getting >>>>> classified yet (statistics on the ifb0 classes remain zero). >>>>> >>>>> Here is my complete work in progress script. How can I investigate why >>>>> response traffic isn't getting classified? Are there any more details >>>>> that would help explain why not? >>>>> >>>>> How can I classify traffic based on the restored mark? or is there >>>>> another way to classify response traffic from the origin server based >>>>> on >>>>> the TOS/DSCP field of the request? >>>>> >>>>> 1: # Save/restore connection mark based on TOS field >>>>> 2: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -j CONNMARK --restore-mark >>>>> 3: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK >>>>> --set-mark >>>>> 1 >>>>> 4: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK >>>>> --set-mark >>>>> 2 >>>>> 5: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark >>>>> 6: >>>>> 7: ifconfig ifb0 up >>>>> 8: >>>>> 9: insmod sch_ingress >>>>> 10: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 ingress >>>>> 11: >>>>> 12: # Classify response traffic from origin server based on >>>>> restored >>>>> mark >>>>> 13: insmod cls_fw >>>>> 14: insmod act_mirred >>>>> 15: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 >>>>> handle >>>>> 1 >>>>> fw flowid 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>> 16: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 >>>>> handle >>>>> 2 >>>>> fw flowid 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>> 17: >>>>> 18: # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >>>>> 19: insmod cls_u32 >>>>> 20: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip pref 1 u32 >>>>> match u32 0 0 flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>> 21: >>>>> 22: # Limit up and downstream to 1mbit, to "own" the queue >>>>> 23: insmod sch_tbf >>>>> 24: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k >>>>> latency 70ms >>>>> 25: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1 tbf rate 1mbit burst 5k >>>>> latency 70ms >>>>> 26: >>>>> 27: # High, low, and "other" priority >>>>> 28: insmod sch_prio >>>>> 29: tc qdisc add dev eth0.2 parent 1: handle 2 prio >>>>> 30: tc qdisc add dev ifb0 parent 1: handle 2 prio >>>>> 31: >>>>> 32: # Classify request traffic from proxy server based on mark >>>>> 33: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle >>>>> 1 >>>>> fw >>>>> flowid :1 >>>>> 34: tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent 2: protocol ip pref 1 handle >>>>> 2 >>>>> fw >>>>> flowid :3 >>>>> >>>>> On 05/12/12 01:12 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >>>>>> Thanks Anatoly, >>>>>> >>>>>> My idea was that based on a mark he will jump the packets to another >>>>>> table which HE will mark TOS/DSCP. >>>>>> >>>>>> Eliezer >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/5/2012 4:39 AM, Anatoly Muliarski wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Jack, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --restore-mark should be used for existing connections and to mark >>>>>>> new >>>>>>> ones you may use something like that: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> iptables -t mangle -A PREROUTING -i eth0.2 -m tos --tos 1 -m >>>>>>> conntrack >>>>>>> --cstate NEW,RELATED -j MARK --set-mark 1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The main idea consists in marking packets on the physical input >>>>>>> interface and shaping them on ifb0( where they arrive already marked >>>>>>> ). >>>>>>> iptables' packet marks exist only in memory of one computer, >>>>>>> TOS/DSCP >>>>>>> may be used for transmitting a map of them to another one. >>>>>>> BTW, use --restore-mark on the output interface of your shaper too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2012/12/3, Jack Bates <uo4zau@nottheoilrig.com>: >>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for your help, how can I evaluate --restore-mark >>>>>>>> before >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> classify and shape response traffic from the origin server? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think you mean something like: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # Copy ctmart to nfmark (e.g. 1, 2) >>>>>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CONNMARK >>>>>>>> --restore-mark >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # Classify by nfmark (e.g. 1, 2), send unmarked traffic to >>>>>>>> class >>>>>>>> 2:2 >>>>>>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 1 fw >>>>>>>> flowid >>>>>>>> 2:1 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>>>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip handle 2 fw >>>>>>>> flowid >>>>>>>> 2:3 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>>>>> tc filter add dev eth0.2 parent ffff: protocol ip u32 match >>>>>>>> u32 0 >>>>>>>> 0 >>>>>>>> flowid 2:2 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just how can I get --restore-mark to evaluate before tc filter? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another way I can imagine is with the CLASSIFY target: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # Send unmarked traffic to class 2:2 >>>>>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark >>>>>>>> 1 >>>>>>>> -j >>>>>>>> CLASSIFY 2:1 >>>>>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -m connmark --mark >>>>>>>> 2 >>>>>>>> -j >>>>>>>> CLASSIFY 2:3 >>>>>>>> iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -i eth0.2 -j CLASSIFY 2:2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But I have the same challenge, how can I evaluate the CLASSIFY >>>>>>>> target >>>>>>>> before I shape traffic? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Or is there another way to classify and shape response traffic from >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> origin server based on the TOS/DSCP field of the request? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 03/12/12 03:52 AM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote: >>>>>>>>> You use iptables mark + restore mark based on connection tracking. >>>>>>>>> you can mark the TOS on the outgoing postrouting table. >>>>>>>>> you can take a look at the iptabes man pages: >>>>>>>>> http://ipset.netfilter.org/iptables.man.html >>>>>>>>> which has --restore-mark exaple. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Eliezer >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/3/2012 10:43 AM, Jack Bates wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I can imagine a couple ways of classifying traffic from our proxy >>>>>>>>>> server >>>>>>>>>> based on the TOS/DSCP field, and also how to set the connection >>>>>>>>>> mark >>>>>>>>>> based on this field. But how do I classify and shape response >>>>>>>>>> traffic >>>>>>>>>> from the origin server based on the connection mark? >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe >>>>>>>> netfilter" >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org >>>>>>>> More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > -- Best regards Anatoly Muliarski ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-12 15:25 ` Jack Bates 2012-12-13 5:06 ` Anatoly Muliarski @ 2012-12-13 5:45 ` Andrew Collins 2012-12-13 20:59 ` Anatoly Muliarski 1 sibling, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Andrew Collins @ 2012-12-13 5:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jack Bates; +Cc: Anatoly Muliarski, netfilter > Here is the corrected script: > > > 1: iptables -N NEW_CONN -t mangle > 2: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 > 3: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 > 4: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark 3 > 5: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark > 6: > 7: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID -j > DROP > 8: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED -j > CONNMARK --restore-mark > 9: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,RELATED -j > NEW_CONN Ingress qdisc traffic is handled before conntrack has seen the traffic, so the mark you're restoring hasn't actually been restored at the time when your classifier rules are executing. It's a general problem that makes ingress shaping based upon connection information difficult to achieve. The only way I've found to solve this is to classify directly in TC without the use of conntrack/marks, or use IMQ (http://www.linuximq.net/). Perhaps there's a clever way to hook into connmark with act_ipt, but I haven't found it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-13 5:45 ` Andrew Collins @ 2012-12-13 20:59 ` Anatoly Muliarski 2012-12-13 22:06 ` Andrew Collins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Anatoly Muliarski @ 2012-12-13 20:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew Collins; +Cc: netfilter 2012/12/13, Andrew Collins <bsderandrew@gmail.com>: >> Here is the corrected script: >> >> >> 1: iptables -N NEW_CONN -t mangle >> 2: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 12 -j MARK --set-mark 1 >> 3: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m tos --tos 28 -j MARK --set-mark 2 >> 4: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -m mark --mark 0 -j MARK --set-mark >> 3 >> 5: iptables -A NEW_CONN -t mangle -j CONNMARK --save-mark >> 6: >> 7: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate INVALID -j >> DROP >> 8: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate ESTABLISHED >> -j >> CONNMARK --restore-mark >> 9: iptables -A PREROUTING -t mangle -m conntrack --ctstate NEW,RELATED >> -j >> NEW_CONN > > Ingress qdisc traffic is handled before conntrack has seen the > traffic, so the mark you're restoring hasn't actually been restored at > the time when your classifier rules are executing. It's a general > problem that makes ingress shaping based upon connection information > difficult to achieve. > > The only way I've found to solve this is to classify directly in TC > without the use of conntrack/marks, or use IMQ > (http://www.linuximq.net/). Perhaps there's a clever way to hook into > connmark with act_ipt, but I haven't found it. > The traffic will be ingress on eth0.2, but it will be treated as egress on ifb0 device. Using ifb is a common scheme to overcome the above-mentioned limitation. -- Best regards Anatoly Muliarski ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-13 20:59 ` Anatoly Muliarski @ 2012-12-13 22:06 ` Andrew Collins 2012-12-14 5:17 ` Anatoly Muliarski 0 siblings, 1 reply; 21+ messages in thread From: Andrew Collins @ 2012-12-13 22:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Anatoly Muliarski; +Cc: netfilter > The traffic will be ingress on eth0.2, but it will be treated as > egress on ifb0 device. > Using ifb is a common scheme to overcome the above-mentioned limitation. From the point of view of queueing/TC this is true, however it will not pass through the neftilter hooks while going through the IFB, so iptables/conntrack will still have no chance to see it until after it's already egressed the qdisc attached to the IFB. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-12-13 22:06 ` Andrew Collins @ 2012-12-14 5:17 ` Anatoly Muliarski 0 siblings, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Anatoly Muliarski @ 2012-12-14 5:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew Collins; +Cc: netfilter 2012/12/14, Andrew Collins <bsderandrew@gmail.com>: >> The traffic will be ingress on eth0.2, but it will be treated as >> egress on ifb0 device. >> Using ifb is a common scheme to overcome the above-mentioned limitation. > > From the point of view of queueing/TC this is true, however it will > not pass through the neftilter hooks while going through the IFB, so > iptables/conntrack will still have no chance to see it until after > it's already egressed the qdisc attached to the IFB. > To my shame, you are right. The IFB device has no netfilter hooks, so we can not use iptables to mark traffic on it. The external incoming traffic should be shaped on the internal outgoing interface. -- Best regards Anatoly Muliarski ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
* Re: Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? 2012-11-28 5:09 Mark traffic on one machine, match on another machine? Jack Bates 2012-11-28 5:25 ` Steven Kath @ 2012-12-08 20:58 ` Jan Engelhardt 1 sibling, 0 replies; 21+ messages in thread From: Jan Engelhardt @ 2012-12-08 20:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jack Bates; +Cc: netfilter On Wednesday 2012-11-28 06:09, Jack Bates wrote: > Is there a way to mark traffic on one machine (proxy server) and match the mark > on another machine (router)? The Flowlabel field in IPv6 would lend itself to that.. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 21+ messages in thread
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