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From: Matthew Fioravante <matthew.fioravante@jhuapl.edu>
To: George Dunlap <George.Dunlap@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: "Ian Campbell" <Ian.Campbell@citrix.com>,
	"Wei Liu" <liuw@liuw.name>,
	"Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	"xen-devel@lists.xen.org" <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	"Jim Fehlig" <jfehlig@suse.com>,
	"Jan Beulich" <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	"Anthony PERARD" <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	"Daniel De Graaf" <dgdegra@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Subject: Re: Xen 4.3 development update, and stock-taking
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:03:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <50F6EB69.1060308@jhuapl.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFLBxZZrWH9mT88tPsvBe1C7cJYA8UBBr1XxXUt4S26Df=bzzg@mail.gmail.com>


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On 01/16/2013 12:55 PM, George Dunlap wrote:
> Below is a summary of the projects / features being worked on for the 
> 4.3 time frame.  The tentative feature freeze is scheduled for 25 
> March, which is just over 2 months away.  With that in mind, I think 
> it's time to take stock of the development, so we know whether to ask 
> for more help or divert resources.
>
> To that end, I've added a line called "prognosis", indicating the 
> likelihood of completion in the 4.3 timeframe.  For items involving 
> code hosted on the Xen.org site (including qemu-xen), that means a 
> likelihood of having the feature code-complete and mostly working by 
> the feature freeze.  (It's OK if there are still bugs to be worked 
> out.)  For items in Linux, I think it would mean having items on track 
> to make it into the kernel released just after the scheduled 4.3 time 
> frame.  Not sure what that means for libvirt. :-)
>
> I've given ratings to projects that I thought I had some insight on, 
> but I would appreciate if everyone could review these and let me know 
> if they're not accurate.
>
> I'd particularly appreciate it if the people listed below could give 
> prognoses on the project listed.
>
> Meanings of prognoses:
> - Excellent: It would be very unlikely for this not to be finished in 
> time.
> - Good: Everything is on track, and is likely to make it.
> - Fair: A pretty good chance of making it, but not as certain
> - Poor: Likely not to make it unless intervention is made
> - Not for 4.3: self-explanatory
>
> Mukesh Rathor: PVH
>
> Wei: Event channel scalability
>
> Daniel de Graaf: IS_PRIV->XSM
>
> Roger Pau Monne: Persistent blk grants, openvswitch integration, 
> backend scripts
>
> Konrad Wilk: Persistent net grants, multi-page network, multi-page blk
>
> Jim Fehlig: libvirt migration support
>
> Matthew Fioravante: vTPM
vTPM should be ready for next release, we just have one minor issue to 
workout with the configure scripts. So I agree with your prognosis of 
"Good".
>
> Stefano Panella: PV Audio
>
> Igor Kozhukov: IllumOS support
>
> Once we know what items are "at risk", we can list them and decide 
> what to do about it.
>
> This information will be mirrored on the Xen 4.3 Roadmap wiki page:
> http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_Roadmap/4.3
>
> = Timeline =
>
> We are planning on a 9-month release cycle.  Based on that, below are
> our estimated dates:
> * Feature Freeze: 25 March 2013
> * First RC: 6 May 2013
> * Release: 17 June 2013
>
> The RCs and release will of course depend on stability and bugs, and
> will therefore be fairly unpredictable.  The feature freeze may be
> slipped for especially important features which are near completion.
>
> = Feature tracking =
>
> Below is a list of features we're tracking for this release. Please
> respond to this mail with any updates to the status.
>
> There are a number of items whose owners are marked as "?".  If you
> are working on this, or know who is working on it, please respond and
> let me know.  Alternately, if you would *like* to work on it, please
> let me know as well.
>
> And if there is something you're working on you'd like tracked, please
> respond, and I will add it to the list.
>
> NB: Several of the items on this list are from external projects:
> linux, qemu, and libvirt.  These are not part of the Xen tree, but are
> directly related to our users' experience (e.g., work in Linux or
> qemu) or to integration with other important projects (e.g., libvirt
> bindings).  Since all of these are part of the Xen community work, and
> comes from the same pool of labor, it makes sense to track the
> progress here, even though they won't explicitly be released as part
> of 4.3.
>
> Meanings of prognoses:
> - Excellent: It would be very unlikely for this not to be finished in 
> time.
> - Good: Everything is on track, and is likely to make it.
> - Fair: A pretty good chance of making it, but not as certain
> - Poor: Likely not to make it unless intervention is made
>
> == Completed ==
>
> * Serial console improvements
>   -EHCI debug port
>
> * Default to QEMU upstream (partial)
>  - pci pass-thru (external)
>  - enable dirtybit tracking during migration (external)
>  - xl cd-{insert,eject} (external)
>
> * CPUID-based idle (don't rely on ACPI info f/ dom0)
>
> == Bugs ==
>
> * xl, compat mode, and older kernels
>   owner: ?
>   Many older 32-bit PV kernels that can run on a 64-bit hypervisor with
>   xend do not work when started with xl.  The following work-around 
> seems to
>   work:
>     xl create -p lightning.cfg
>     xenstore-write /local/domain/$(xl domid 
> lightning)/device/vbd/51713/protocol x86_32-abi
>     xl unpause lightning
>   This node is normally written by the guest kernel, but for older kernels
>   seems not to be.  xend must have a work-around; port this 
> work-around to xl.
>
> == Not yet complete ==
>
> * PVH mode (w/ Linux)
>   owner: mukesh@oracle
>   status (Linux): 3rd draft patches posted.
>   status (Xen): RFC submitted
>   prognosis: Good
>
> * Event channel scalability
>   owner: wei@citrix
>   status: RFC submitted
>   prognosis: Good
>   Increase limit on event channels (currently 1024 for 32-bit guests,
>   4096 for 64-bit guests)
>
> * ARM v7 server port
>   owner: ijc@citrix
>   prognosis: Excellent
>   status: Core hypervisor and Linux patches accepted. Tools patches 
> submitted.
>
> * ARM v8 server port (tech preview)
>   owner: ijc@citrix
>   status: ?
>   prognosis: Tech preview only
>
> * NUMA scheduler affinity
>   critical
>   owner: dario@citrix
>   status: Patches posted
>   prognosis: Excellent
>
> * NUMA Memory migration
>   owner: dario@citrix
>   status: in progress
>   prognosis: Fair
>
> * blktap3
>   owner: thanos@citrix
>   status: RFCs posted
>   prognosis: Not for 4.3
>
> * Default to QEMU upstream
>  > Add "intel-hda" to xmexample file, since it works with 64-bit Win7/8
>  - qemu-based stubdom (Linux or BSD libc)
>    owner: anthony@citrix
>    status: in progress
>    prognosis: ?
>    qemu-upstream needs a more fully-featured libc than exists in
>    mini-os.  Either work on a minimalist linux-based stubdom with
>    glibc, or port one of the BSD libcs to minios.
>
> * Persistent grants for blk (external)
>   owner: roger.pau@citrix
>   status: Initial implementation posted
>   prognosis: ?
>
> * Persistent grants for net
>   owner: annie.li@citrix
>   status: Initial implementation posted
>   prognosis: ?
>
> * Multi-page blk rings (external)
>  - blkback in kernel (konrad@oracle, ?@intel)
>  - qemu blkback
>   status: Not started.
>   prognosis: UNKNOWN
>
> * Multi-page net protocol (external)
>   owner: ijc@citrix or annie.li@oracle
>   status: Initial patches posted (by Wei Liu)
>   expand the network ring protocol to allow multiple pages for
>   increased throughput
>
> * Scalability: 16TiB of RAM
>   owner: jan@suse
>   status: Not started
>
> * vTPM updates
>   owner: Matthew Fioravante @ Johns Hopkins
>   prognosis: Good
>   status: some patches submitted, more in progress
>   - Allow all vTPM components to run in stub domains for increased 
> security
>   - Update vtpm to 0.7.1 from 0.5.x
Say this:
- New vtpm domain uses tpm_emulator 0.7.4.
The old vtpmd was not upgraded, it was deprecated and removed entirely.
>
> * Guest EFI booting
>  - status: tianocore in-tree, some build problems.
>    prognosis: Poor.
>    Needs new owner.
>
> * libvirt/libxl integration (external)
>  - Update libvirt to 4.2
>    status: Patch accepted
>  - Migration
>    owner: cyliu@suse (?)
>    status: first draft implemented, not yet submitted
>    prognosis: ?
>  - Itemize other things that need work
>    To begin with, we need someone to go and make some lists:
>    - Features available in libvirt/KVM not available in libvirt/libxl
>      See http://libvirt.org/hvsupport.html
>    - Features available in xl/Xen but not available in libvirt/Xen
>
> * Allow XSM to override IS_PRIV checks in the hypervisor
>   owner: Daniel De Graaf
>   status: patches against 4.3-unstable posted, awaiting approval
>   prognosis: Good
>   This makes it possible to allow some user domains limited access to
>   dom0-only hypercalls. This could be used to allow a user-created
>   toolstack domain to administer its own set of VMs instead of relying
>   on dom0's toolstack.
>
> * V4V: Inter-domain communication
>   owner (Xen): jean.guyader@citrix.com <mailto:jean.guyader@citrix.com>
>   status (Xen): patches submitted
>   prognosis: ?
>   owner (Linux driver):  stefano.panella@citrix
>   status (Linux driver): in progress
>
> * Wait queues for mm
>   owner: ?
>   status: Draft posted Feb 2012; more work to do.
>   prognosis: Poor
>
> * xl PVUSB pass-through for both PV and HVM guests
>   owner: George
>   status: ?
>   prognosis: Fair
>   xm/xend supports PVUSB pass-through to guests with PVUSB drivers 
> (both PV and HVM guests).
>   - port the xm/xend functionality to xl.
>   - this PVUSB feature does not require support or emulation from Qemu.
>   - upstream the Linux frontend/backend drivers. Current 
> work-in-progress versions are in Konrad's git tree.
>   - James Harper's GPLPV drivers for Windows include PVUSB frontend 
> drivers.
>
> * xl USB pass-through for HVM guests using Qemu USB emulation
>   owner: George
>   status: Config file pass-through submitted.
>   prognosis: Good
>   xm/xend with qemu-traditional supports USB passthrough to HVM guests 
> using the Qemu emulated USB controller.
>   The HVM guest does not need any special drivers for this feature.
>   So basicly the qemu cmdline needs to have:
>      -usb -usbdevice host:xxxx:yyyy
>   - port the xm/xend functionality to xl.
>   - make sure USB passthrough with xl works with both qemu-traditional 
> and qemu-upstream.
>
> * xl QXL Spice support
>   owner: Zhou Peng
>   prognosis: Fair
>   status: Patches against 4.3-unstable posted, awaiting approval
>
> * Remove hardcoded mobprobe's in xencommons
>   owner: ?
>   status: ?
>   prognosis: Poor.
>
> * openvswitch toostack integration
>   owner: roger@citrix
>   prognosis: ?
>   status: Sample script posted by Bastian ("[RFC] openvswitch support 
> script")
>
> * Rationalized backend scripts (incl. driver domains)
>   owner: roger@citrix
>   status: patches submitted
>   prognosis: Good
>
> * Xen EFI boot
>  - Signature checking for dom0 kernel / initrd?
>  status: No owner.
>  prognosis: Probably not for 4.4
>
> * Serial console improvements
>   owner: ?
>   status: Stalled (see below)
>   prognosis: Probably not for 4.4.
>   -xHCI debug port (Needs hardware)
>   -Firewire (needs hardware)
>
> * Make storage migration possible
>   owner: ?
>   status: none
>   prognosis: Probably delay until 4.4
>   There needs to be a way, either via command-line or via some hooks,
>   that someone can build a "storage migration" feature on top of libxl
>   or xl.
>
> * Full-VM snapshotting
>   owner: ?
>   status: none
>   prognosis: Probably delay until 4.4
>   Have a way of coordinating the taking and restoring of VM memory and
>   disk snapshots.  This would involve some investigation into the best
>   way to accomplish this.
>
> * VM Cloning
>   owner: ?
>   status: none
>   prognosis: Probably need 4.4
>   Again, a way of coordinating the memory and disk aspects.  Research
>   into the best way to do this would probably go along with the
>   snapshotting feature.
>
> * xl vm-{export,import}
>   owner: ?
>   status: none
>   prognosis: Prob put off until 4.4 (or GSoC project)
>   Allow xl to import and export VMs to other formats; particularly
>   ovf, perhaps the XenServer format, or more.
>
> * Memory: Replace PoD with paging mechanism
>   owner: george@citrix
>   status: none
>   prognosis: Prob put off until 4.4
>
> * PV audio (audio for stubdom qemu)
>   owner: stefano.panella@citrix
>   status: ?
>   prognosis: ?
>
> * IllumOS support
>   owner: Igor Kozhukov
>   status: In progress
>   prognosis: ?
>


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-16 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-16 17:55 Xen 4.3 development update, and stock-taking George Dunlap
2013-01-16 18:03 ` Matthew Fioravante [this message]
2013-01-18 15:19   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-18 21:17     ` Fioravante, Matthew E.
2013-01-16 18:15 ` Wei Liu
2013-01-17 10:50   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17  9:09 ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 11:12   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 12:51     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 13:58       ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 14:15         ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 14:32           ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 15:26             ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 15:30             ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 15:48               ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 16:04                 ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 16:20                   ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 17:22                     ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 16:14                 ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 16:29                   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 16:49                     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 17:11                       ` George Dunlap
2013-01-18  9:35                         ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 16:43                   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 17:06                     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-17 16:49                   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-18  9:30                     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-18 15:24       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-18 11:20     ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-21 14:12       ` George Dunlap
2013-01-22 13:53         ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-22 14:10           ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-18 15:22   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-17 10:00 ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-01-17 11:22   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-18  9:50     ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-01-18 15:21       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-18 15:33         ` Roger Pau Monné
2013-01-21 15:06       ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 10:20 ` Olaf Hering
2013-01-17 17:23   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-17 15:54 ` Daniel De Graaf
2013-01-17 15:49   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-18 15:41 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-21 15:04   ` George Dunlap
2013-01-22 17:42     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
     [not found] <mailman.21508.1358358967.1399.xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
2013-01-17 16:07 ` Andres Lagar-Cavilla
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-01-22 14:32 Daniel Kiper

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