From: Stephen Warren <swarren-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
To: Marc Dietrich <marvin24-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <rob.herring-bsGFqQB8/DxBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>,
Russell King <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
Olof Johansson <olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Multi-platform, and secure-only ARM errata workarounds
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:39:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <512CE533.6020005@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4928288.ie8EUukfVD-D3pzGp0ZKuDWZbiwp4sFPyrtisivX6KghOMvlBiLbJSELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
On 02/26/2013 02:36 AM, Marc Dietrich wrote:
> Stephen,
>
> Am Montag, 25. Februar 2013, 16:47:38 schrieb Stephen Warren:
>> I'm looking into enabling CONFIG_MULTIPLATFORM on Tegra for 3.10, and
>> the main blocking issue is due to commit 62e4d35 "ARM: 7609/1: disable
>> errata work-arounds which access secure registers". Various Tegra
>> versions need 3 of those workarounds, and our bootloader doesn't
>> implement them (at the least, upstream U-Boot; not sure about our
>> downstream code, but I'm fairly sure given the lack of any feedback I
>> got in the bug I filed to implement them).
>>
>> Now, I can easily add those 3 errata workarounds to U-Boot, but that
>> will require people to reflash their bootloader. This is probably
>> acceptable for development/reference boards (although I'm sure people
>> will find it annoying) but for re-purposed production boards (such as
>> the Toshiba AC100 or various tablets) it will be impossible to update
>> the factory bootloader. Switching to upstream U-Boot would currently
>> lose some functionality, and significantly affect people's boot flow, so
>> is likely unacceptable.
>
> personally, I have no problem to require a certain u-boot version for a given
> kernel. From a distro point of view, you will likely update the
> bootloader/kernel on a distro update anyway.
So a distro will certainly update the kernel.
But updating a bootloader would be very unusual, I believe.
Also, I hope that upstream U-Boot is never going to support the bizarre
"Tegra partition table" cruft that our "fastboot" bootloader supports,
so you'll end up completely re-programming the flash (BCT, bootloader,
partition table, all filesystems) if you want to switch to U-Boot. That
seems like a fair chunk for the installer to own, but I guess if you're
comfortable with doing that, I won't complain.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: swarren@wwwdotorg.org (Stephen Warren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Multi-platform, and secure-only ARM errata workarounds
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:39:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <512CE533.6020005@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4928288.ie8EUukfVD@fb07-iapwap2.physik.uni-giessen.de>
On 02/26/2013 02:36 AM, Marc Dietrich wrote:
> Stephen,
>
> Am Montag, 25. Februar 2013, 16:47:38 schrieb Stephen Warren:
>> I'm looking into enabling CONFIG_MULTIPLATFORM on Tegra for 3.10, and
>> the main blocking issue is due to commit 62e4d35 "ARM: 7609/1: disable
>> errata work-arounds which access secure registers". Various Tegra
>> versions need 3 of those workarounds, and our bootloader doesn't
>> implement them (at the least, upstream U-Boot; not sure about our
>> downstream code, but I'm fairly sure given the lack of any feedback I
>> got in the bug I filed to implement them).
>>
>> Now, I can easily add those 3 errata workarounds to U-Boot, but that
>> will require people to reflash their bootloader. This is probably
>> acceptable for development/reference boards (although I'm sure people
>> will find it annoying) but for re-purposed production boards (such as
>> the Toshiba AC100 or various tablets) it will be impossible to update
>> the factory bootloader. Switching to upstream U-Boot would currently
>> lose some functionality, and significantly affect people's boot flow, so
>> is likely unacceptable.
>
> personally, I have no problem to require a certain u-boot version for a given
> kernel. From a distro point of view, you will likely update the
> bootloader/kernel on a distro update anyway.
So a distro will certainly update the kernel.
But updating a bootloader would be very unusual, I believe.
Also, I hope that upstream U-Boot is never going to support the bizarre
"Tegra partition table" cruft that our "fastboot" bootloader supports,
so you'll end up completely re-programming the flash (BCT, bootloader,
partition table, all filesystems) if you want to switch to U-Boot. That
seems like a fair chunk for the installer to own, but I guess if you're
comfortable with doing that, I won't complain.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-02-26 16:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-02-25 23:47 Multi-platform, and secure-only ARM errata workarounds Stephen Warren
2013-02-25 23:47 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-26 9:36 ` Marc Dietrich
2013-02-26 9:36 ` Marc Dietrich
[not found] ` <4928288.ie8EUukfVD-D3pzGp0ZKuDWZbiwp4sFPyrtisivX6KghOMvlBiLbJSELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 16:39 ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2013-02-26 16:39 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <512CE533.6020005-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 22:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-26 22:31 ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-27 9:03 ` Marc Dietrich
2013-02-27 9:03 ` Marc Dietrich
[not found] ` <22709540.96uJddbx1U-D3pzGp0ZKuDWZbiwp4sFPyrtisivX6KghOMvlBiLbJSELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-27 14:00 ` Rob Herring
2013-02-27 14:00 ` Rob Herring
2013-02-27 17:42 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-27 17:42 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-28 13:58 ` Marc Dietrich
2013-02-28 13:58 ` Marc Dietrich
[not found] ` <512BF81A.3080700-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 10:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-26 10:23 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201302261023.26939.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 10:31 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-02-26 10:31 ` Catalin Marinas
[not found] ` <20130226103114.GA16875-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 10:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-02-26 10:35 ` Catalin Marinas
[not found] ` <20130226103503.GB16875-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 10:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-02-26 10:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <201302261048.06644.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 11:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-02-26 11:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2013-02-26 11:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-26 11:35 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20130226113538.GS17833-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 14:07 ` Rob Herring
2013-02-26 14:07 ` Rob Herring
2013-02-26 18:01 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-26 18:01 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <512CF87A.4090404-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 18:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-26 18:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20130226181114.GU17833-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 18:30 ` Stephen Warren
2013-02-26 18:30 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <512CFF30.9080300-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-26 18:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-26 18:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20130226184942.GV17833-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-27 6:07 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-02-27 6:07 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-01 17:37 ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-01 17:37 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5130E757.6090500-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-01 18:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-01 18:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-03-04 6:34 ` Peter De Schrijver
2013-03-04 6:34 ` Peter De Schrijver
[not found] ` <20130304063436.GB27241-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-04 9:16 ` Peter De Schrijver
2013-03-04 9:16 ` Peter De Schrijver
[not found] ` <20130304091600.GC27241-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-04 17:08 ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-04 17:08 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <5134D50B.8060001-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-05 7:40 ` Peter De Schrijver
2013-03-05 7:40 ` Peter De Schrijver
[not found] ` <20130305074047.GH27241-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-05 17:00 ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-05 17:00 ` Stephen Warren
[not found] ` <513624AA.4090207-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-06 8:14 ` Peter De Schrijver
2013-03-06 8:14 ` Peter De Schrijver
[not found] ` <20130306081401.GN27241-Rysk9IDjsxmJz7etNGeUX8VPkgjIgRvpAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-06 16:18 ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-06 16:18 ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-10 17:25 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-03-10 17:25 ` Santosh Shilimkar
[not found] ` <513CC21E.7080901-l0cyMroinI0@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-10 18:47 ` Olof Johansson
2013-03-10 18:47 ` Olof Johansson
[not found] ` <CAOesGMgYL19+u-bLp080iasct5xtC=qfNCoz=SY7bbVgF=7JQg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-03-11 16:59 ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-11 16:59 ` Stephen Warren
2013-03-11 18:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-03-11 18:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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