From: santosh.shilimkar@ti.com (Santosh Shilimkar)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/2] clockevents: Prefer clockevents that don't suffer from FEAT_C3_STOP
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:48:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52164EEE.9070707@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52164CF5.20705@codeaurora.org>
On Thursday 22 August 2013 01:40 PM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 08/22/13 10:33, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>> On Thursday 22 August 2013 01:06 PM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
>>> On some ARM systems there are two sets of per-cpu timers: the TWD
>>> timers and the global timers. The TWD timers are rated at 350 and
>>> the global timers are rated at 300 but the TWD timers suffer from
>>> FEAT_C3_STOP while the arm global timers don't. The tick device
>>> selection logic doesn't consider the FEAT_C3_STOP flag so we'll
>>> always end up with the TWD as the tick device although we don't
>>> want that.
>>>
>>> Extend the preference logic to take the FEAT_C3_STOP flag into
>>> account and always prefer tick devices that don't suffer from
>>> FEAT_C3_STOP even if their rating is lower than tick devices that
>>> do suffer from FEAT_C3_STOP. This will remove the need to do any
>>> broadcasting on such ARM systems.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
>>> ---
>>> kernel/time/tick-common.c | 14 ++++++++++++--
>>> 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/kernel/time/tick-common.c b/kernel/time/tick-common.c
>>> index 64522ec..3ae437d 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/time/tick-common.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/time/tick-common.c
>>> @@ -244,12 +244,22 @@ static bool tick_check_preferred(struct clock_event_device *curdev,
>>> return false;
>>> }
>>>
>>> + if (!curdev)
>>> + return true;
>>> +
>>> + /* Always prefer a tick device that doesn't suffer from FEAT_C3STOP */
>>> + if (!(newdev->features & CLOCK_EVT_FEAT_C3STOP) &&
>>> + (curdev->features & CLOCK_EVT_FEAT_C3STOP))
>>> + return true;
>>> + if ((newdev->features & CLOCK_EVT_FEAT_C3STOP) &&
>>> + !(curdev->features & CLOCK_EVT_FEAT_C3STOP))
>>> + return false;
>>> +
>> I don't think preferring the clock-event which doesn't suffer
>> from FEAT_C3STOP is a good idea if the quality of the time source
>> is not same. Generally the global timers are slow and far away from
>> CPU(cycle cost). So as long as we don't get impacted because of low power
>> states, the tick should run out of local timers which are faster access
>> as well as high resolution.
>>
>
> Fair enough. I have no data either way to convince anyone that this is a
> good or bad idea so this patch should have probably been an RFC. Are you
> hinting at something like switching to a per-cpu timer that doesn't
> suffer from FEAT_C3_STOP when a CPU goes into a deep idle state?
> Interesting idea but I think I'll leave that to someone else if they
> really care to do that.
>
If the per-CPU timer don't suffer from C3_STOP, there is no need to
switch at all and the per CPU tick continue to runs on CPU local
timers. We need to switch to a broadcast device(no affected by C3_STOP)
only for the cases where the per-CPU timer wakeup don't work in CPU
low power states.
Are we talking about a hardware where one of the CPU from a cluster
has a local timer which is not affected by C3_STOP where as rest
of the CPU local timers are ? If yes, it must be crazy hardware and
we should not care too much about that.
Regards,
Santosh
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From: Santosh Shilimkar <santosh.shilimkar@ti.com>
To: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
Cc: "Daniel Lezcano" <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
"Russell King" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
srinivas.kandagatla@st.com,
"Michal Simek" <michal.simek@xilinx.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Stuart Menefy" <stuart.menefy@st.com>,
"John Stultz" <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
"Sören Brinkmann" <soren.brinkmann@xilinx.com>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] clockevents: Prefer clockevents that don't suffer from FEAT_C3_STOP
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:48:30 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <52164EEE.9070707@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52164CF5.20705@codeaurora.org>
On Thursday 22 August 2013 01:40 PM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 08/22/13 10:33, Santosh Shilimkar wrote:
>> On Thursday 22 August 2013 01:06 PM, Stephen Boyd wrote:
>>> On some ARM systems there are two sets of per-cpu timers: the TWD
>>> timers and the global timers. The TWD timers are rated at 350 and
>>> the global timers are rated at 300 but the TWD timers suffer from
>>> FEAT_C3_STOP while the arm global timers don't. The tick device
>>> selection logic doesn't consider the FEAT_C3_STOP flag so we'll
>>> always end up with the TWD as the tick device although we don't
>>> want that.
>>>
>>> Extend the preference logic to take the FEAT_C3_STOP flag into
>>> account and always prefer tick devices that don't suffer from
>>> FEAT_C3_STOP even if their rating is lower than tick devices that
>>> do suffer from FEAT_C3_STOP. This will remove the need to do any
>>> broadcasting on such ARM systems.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>
>>> ---
>>> kernel/time/tick-common.c | 14 ++++++++++++--
>>> 1 file changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/kernel/time/tick-common.c b/kernel/time/tick-common.c
>>> index 64522ec..3ae437d 100644
>>> --- a/kernel/time/tick-common.c
>>> +++ b/kernel/time/tick-common.c
>>> @@ -244,12 +244,22 @@ static bool tick_check_preferred(struct clock_event_device *curdev,
>>> return false;
>>> }
>>>
>>> + if (!curdev)
>>> + return true;
>>> +
>>> + /* Always prefer a tick device that doesn't suffer from FEAT_C3STOP */
>>> + if (!(newdev->features & CLOCK_EVT_FEAT_C3STOP) &&
>>> + (curdev->features & CLOCK_EVT_FEAT_C3STOP))
>>> + return true;
>>> + if ((newdev->features & CLOCK_EVT_FEAT_C3STOP) &&
>>> + !(curdev->features & CLOCK_EVT_FEAT_C3STOP))
>>> + return false;
>>> +
>> I don't think preferring the clock-event which doesn't suffer
>> from FEAT_C3STOP is a good idea if the quality of the time source
>> is not same. Generally the global timers are slow and far away from
>> CPU(cycle cost). So as long as we don't get impacted because of low power
>> states, the tick should run out of local timers which are faster access
>> as well as high resolution.
>>
>
> Fair enough. I have no data either way to convince anyone that this is a
> good or bad idea so this patch should have probably been an RFC. Are you
> hinting at something like switching to a per-cpu timer that doesn't
> suffer from FEAT_C3_STOP when a CPU goes into a deep idle state?
> Interesting idea but I think I'll leave that to someone else if they
> really care to do that.
>
If the per-CPU timer don't suffer from C3_STOP, there is no need to
switch at all and the per CPU tick continue to runs on CPU local
timers. We need to switch to a broadcast device(no affected by C3_STOP)
only for the cases where the per-CPU timer wakeup don't work in CPU
low power states.
Are we talking about a hardware where one of the CPU from a cluster
has a local timer which is not affected by C3_STOP where as rest
of the CPU local timers are ? If yes, it must be crazy hardware and
we should not care too much about that.
Regards,
Santosh
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2013-07-29 15:58 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-29 15:58 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-30 0:03 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-30 0:03 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-30 8:47 ` Daniel Lezcano
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2013-07-30 22:14 ` Sören Brinkmann
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2013-07-30 22:23 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-30 22:23 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-30 22:34 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-30 22:34 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-31 7:27 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-07-31 7:27 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-07-31 16:26 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-31 16:26 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-31 9:34 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-07-31 9:34 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-07-31 16:43 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-31 16:43 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-31 20:49 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-07-31 20:49 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-07-31 20:58 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-31 20:58 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-31 21:08 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-07-31 21:08 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-07-31 22:18 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-31 22:18 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-31 23:01 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-07-31 23:01 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-07-31 23:38 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-07-31 23:38 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-01 17:29 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-01 17:29 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-01 17:43 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-01 17:43 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-01 17:48 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-01 17:48 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-06 1:28 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-06 1:28 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-06 8:46 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-06 8:46 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-06 9:18 ` Michal Simek
2013-08-06 9:18 ` Michal Simek
2013-08-06 12:30 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-06 12:30 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-06 12:41 ` Michal Simek
2013-08-06 12:41 ` Michal Simek
2013-08-06 13:08 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-06 13:08 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-06 13:18 ` Michal Simek
2013-08-06 13:18 ` Michal Simek
2013-08-06 16:09 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-06 16:09 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-06 16:13 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-06 16:13 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-06 16:25 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-06 16:25 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-06 16:18 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-06 16:18 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-08 17:11 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-08 17:11 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-08 17:16 ` Mark Rutland
2013-08-08 17:16 ` Mark Rutland
2013-08-08 17:22 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-08 17:22 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-09 10:58 ` Mark Rutland
2013-08-09 10:58 ` Mark Rutland
2013-08-08 17:22 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-08 17:22 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-09 10:32 ` Srinivas KANDAGATLA
2013-08-09 10:32 ` Srinivas KANDAGATLA
2013-08-09 14:19 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-09 14:19 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-09 17:27 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-09 17:27 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-09 17:48 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-09 17:48 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-09 18:45 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-09 18:45 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-12 10:53 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-12 10:53 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-12 16:23 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-12 16:23 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-12 16:53 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-12 16:53 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-12 16:03 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-12 16:03 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-12 16:08 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-12 16:08 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-12 16:17 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-12 16:17 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-12 16:20 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-12 16:20 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-12 16:24 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-12 16:24 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-12 16:40 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-12 16:40 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-12 16:43 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-12 16:43 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-12 16:32 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-12 16:32 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-12 16:49 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-12 16:49 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-12 16:53 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-12 16:53 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-12 17:02 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-12 17:02 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-16 17:28 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-16 17:28 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-19 23:00 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-19 23:00 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-19 23:30 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-19 23:30 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-20 0:57 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-20 0:57 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-20 15:13 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-20 15:13 ` Daniel Lezcano
2013-08-22 17:06 ` [PATCH 1/2] tick: broadcast: Deny per-cpu clockevents from being broadcast sources Stephen Boyd
2013-08-22 17:06 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-22 17:06 ` [PATCH 2/2] clockevents: Prefer clockevents that don't suffer from FEAT_C3_STOP Stephen Boyd
2013-08-22 17:06 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-22 17:33 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-08-22 17:33 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-08-22 17:40 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-22 17:40 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-22 17:48 ` Santosh Shilimkar [this message]
2013-08-22 17:48 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-08-22 18:31 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-22 18:31 ` Stephen Boyd
2013-08-22 21:06 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-08-22 21:06 ` Santosh Shilimkar
2013-08-22 23:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] tick: broadcast: Deny per-cpu clockevents from being broadcast sources Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-22 23:38 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-09-05 16:53 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-09-05 16:53 ` Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-09 16:03 ` Enable arm_global_timer for Zynq brakes boot Sören Brinkmann
2013-08-09 16:03 ` Sören Brinkmann
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