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* Problem with image types
@ 2013-10-11 14:38 Gary Thomas
  2013-10-11 14:39 ` Chris Larson
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Gary Thomas @ 2013-10-11 14:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: meta-freescale

I'm using image_types_fsl from meta-fsl-arm and running into
some issues.  If I set
   IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
   IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types_fsl"
I only end up with .ext3 and .sdcard images - no .tar.bz2.
If I use the default
   IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
then I get .tar.bz2 but no .sdcard

How can I have them all at once?

n.b. I'm using the latest master on all trees

-- 
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Gary Thomas                 |  Consulting for the
MLB Associates              |    Embedded world
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* Re: Problem with image types
  2013-10-11 14:38 Problem with image types Gary Thomas
@ 2013-10-11 14:39 ` Chris Larson
  2013-10-11 14:52   ` Gary Thomas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Chris Larson @ 2013-10-11 14:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gary Thomas; +Cc: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org

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On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> wrote:

> I'm using image_types_fsl from meta-fsl-arm and running into
> some issues.  If I set
>   IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
>   IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types_**fsl"
> I only end up with .ext3 and .sdcard images - no .tar.bz2.
> If I use the default
>   IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
> then I get .tar.bz2 but no .sdcard
>
> How can I have them all at once?
>

Note that IMAGE_CLASSES is plural, not singular :)

IMAGE_CLASSES = "image_types image_types_fsl", presumably.
-- 
Christopher Larson
clarson at kergoth dot com
Founder - BitBake, OpenEmbedded, OpenZaurus
Maintainer - Tslib
Senior Software Engineer, Mentor Graphics

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* Re: Problem with image types
  2013-10-11 14:39 ` Chris Larson
@ 2013-10-11 14:52   ` Gary Thomas
  2013-10-11 15:35     ` Eric Bénard
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Gary Thomas @ 2013-10-11 14:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chris Larson; +Cc: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org

On 2013-10-11 08:39, Chris Larson wrote:
>
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com <mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com>> wrote:
>
>     I'm using image_types_fsl from meta-fsl-arm and running into
>     some issues.  If I set
>        IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
>        IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types_fsl"
>     I only end up with .ext3 and .sdcard images - no .tar.bz2.
>     If I use the default
>        IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
>     then I get .tar.bz2 but no .sdcard
>
>     How can I have them all at once?
>
>
> Note that IMAGE_CLASSES is plural, not singular :)
>
> IMAGE_CLASSES = "image_types image_types_fsl", presumably.

When I tried that, I got the same results as just IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
Also, meta-fsl-arm/classes/image_types_fsl.bbclass inherits "image_types" so
I don't think it should be necessary to list them both.

-- 
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Gary Thomas                 |  Consulting for the
MLB Associates              |    Embedded world
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* Re: Problem with image types
  2013-10-11 14:52   ` Gary Thomas
@ 2013-10-11 15:35     ` Eric Bénard
  2013-10-11 15:37       ` Gary Thomas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eric Bénard @ 2013-10-11 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gary Thomas; +Cc: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org

Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:52:30 -0600,
Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :

> On 2013-10-11 08:39, Chris Larson wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com <mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     I'm using image_types_fsl from meta-fsl-arm and running into
> >     some issues.  If I set
> >        IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
> >        IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types_fsl"
> >     I only end up with .ext3 and .sdcard images - no .tar.bz2.
> >     If I use the default
> >        IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
> >     then I get .tar.bz2 but no .sdcard
> >
> >     How can I have them all at once?
> >
> >
> > Note that IMAGE_CLASSES is plural, not singular :)
> >
> > IMAGE_CLASSES = "image_types image_types_fsl", presumably.
> 
> When I tried that, I got the same results as just IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
> Also, meta-fsl-arm/classes/image_types_fsl.bbclass inherits "image_types" so
> I don't think it should be necessary to list them both.
> 
don't you have a IMAGE_FSTYPES="ext3 sdcard" hardcoded somewhere in
your machine file ?

Eric


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* Re: Problem with image types
  2013-10-11 15:35     ` Eric Bénard
@ 2013-10-11 15:37       ` Gary Thomas
  2013-10-11 16:13         ` Eric Bénard
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Gary Thomas @ 2013-10-11 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Bénard; +Cc: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org

On 2013-10-11 09:35, Eric Bénard wrote:
> Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:52:30 -0600,
> Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :
>
>> On 2013-10-11 08:39, Chris Larson wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com <mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      I'm using image_types_fsl from meta-fsl-arm and running into
>>>      some issues.  If I set
>>>         IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
>>>         IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types_fsl"
>>>      I only end up with .ext3 and .sdcard images - no .tar.bz2.
>>>      If I use the default
>>>         IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
>>>      then I get .tar.bz2 but no .sdcard
>>>
>>>      How can I have them all at once?
>>>
>>>
>>> Note that IMAGE_CLASSES is plural, not singular :)
>>>
>>> IMAGE_CLASSES = "image_types image_types_fsl", presumably.
>>
>> When I tried that, I got the same results as just IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
>> Also, meta-fsl-arm/classes/image_types_fsl.bbclass inherits "image_types" so
>> I don't think it should be necessary to list them both.
>>
> don't you have a IMAGE_FSTYPES="ext3 sdcard" hardcoded somewhere in
> your machine file ?

No, as seen above, IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------
Gary Thomas                 |  Consulting for the
MLB Associates              |    Embedded world
------------------------------------------------------------


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* Re: Problem with image types
  2013-10-11 15:37       ` Gary Thomas
@ 2013-10-11 16:13         ` Eric Bénard
  2013-10-11 16:18           ` Gary Thomas
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eric Bénard @ 2013-10-11 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gary Thomas; +Cc: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org

Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:37:48 -0600,
Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :

> On 2013-10-11 09:35, Eric Bénard wrote:
> > Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:52:30 -0600,
> > Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :
> >
> >> On 2013-10-11 08:39, Chris Larson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com <mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>      I'm using image_types_fsl from meta-fsl-arm and running into
> >>>      some issues.  If I set
> >>>         IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
> >>>         IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types_fsl"
> >>>      I only end up with .ext3 and .sdcard images - no .tar.bz2.
> >>>      If I use the default
> >>>         IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
> >>>      then I get .tar.bz2 but no .sdcard
> >>>
> >>>      How can I have them all at once?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Note that IMAGE_CLASSES is plural, not singular :)
> >>>
> >>> IMAGE_CLASSES = "image_types image_types_fsl", presumably.
> >>
> >> When I tried that, I got the same results as just IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
> >> Also, meta-fsl-arm/classes/image_types_fsl.bbclass inherits "image_types" so
> >> I don't think it should be necessary to list them both.
> >>
> > don't you have a IMAGE_FSTYPES="ext3 sdcard" hardcoded somewhere in
> > your machine file ?
> 
> No, as seen above, IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
> 
bitbake yourimage -e may help to understand how IMAGE_FSTYPES is built.

Eric


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* Re: Problem with image types
  2013-10-11 16:18           ` Gary Thomas
@ 2013-10-11 16:15             ` Daiane Angolini
  2013-10-11 16:45             ` Eric Bénard
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Daiane Angolini @ 2013-10-11 16:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gary Thomas, Eric Bénard; +Cc: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org

On 10/11/2013 01:18 PM, Gary Thomas wrote:
> On 2013-10-11 10:13, Eric Bénard wrote:
>> Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:37:48 -0600,
>> Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> On 2013-10-11 09:35, Eric Bénard wrote:
>>>> Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:52:30 -0600,
>>>> Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> On 2013-10-11 08:39, Chris Larson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com
>>>>>> <mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       I'm using image_types_fsl from meta-fsl-arm and running into
>>>>>>       some issues.  If I set
>>>>>>          IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
>>>>>>          IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types_fsl"
>>>>>>       I only end up with .ext3 and .sdcard images - no .tar.bz2.
>>>>>>       If I use the default
>>>>>>          IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
>>>>>>       then I get .tar.bz2 but no .sdcard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       How can I have them all at once?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that IMAGE_CLASSES is plural, not singular :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IMAGE_CLASSES = "image_types image_types_fsl", presumably.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I tried that, I got the same results as just
>>>>> IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
>>>>> Also, meta-fsl-arm/classes/image_types_fsl.bbclass inherits
>>>>> "image_types" so
>>>>> I don't think it should be necessary to list them both.
>>>>>
>>>> don't you have a IMAGE_FSTYPES="ext3 sdcard" hardcoded somewhere in
>>>> your machine file ?
>>>
>>> No, as seen above, IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
>>>
>> bitbake yourimage -e may help to understand how IMAGE_FSTYPES is built.
>
> I had already done this - that's where the quoted values are from.
> IMAGE_FSTYPES
> definitely contains all three types, but only .ext3 and .sdcard are being
> built if I use image_types_fsl.
>

Other idea for debug is the log.do_rootfs

-- 
Daiane



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* Re: Problem with image types
  2013-10-11 16:13         ` Eric Bénard
@ 2013-10-11 16:18           ` Gary Thomas
  2013-10-11 16:15             ` Daiane Angolini
  2013-10-11 16:45             ` Eric Bénard
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Gary Thomas @ 2013-10-11 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Bénard; +Cc: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org

On 2013-10-11 10:13, Eric Bénard wrote:
> Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:37:48 -0600,
> Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :
>
>> On 2013-10-11 09:35, Eric Bénard wrote:
>>> Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:52:30 -0600,
>>> Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> On 2013-10-11 08:39, Chris Larson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com <mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       I'm using image_types_fsl from meta-fsl-arm and running into
>>>>>       some issues.  If I set
>>>>>          IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
>>>>>          IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types_fsl"
>>>>>       I only end up with .ext3 and .sdcard images - no .tar.bz2.
>>>>>       If I use the default
>>>>>          IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
>>>>>       then I get .tar.bz2 but no .sdcard
>>>>>
>>>>>       How can I have them all at once?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that IMAGE_CLASSES is plural, not singular :)
>>>>>
>>>>> IMAGE_CLASSES = "image_types image_types_fsl", presumably.
>>>>
>>>> When I tried that, I got the same results as just IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
>>>> Also, meta-fsl-arm/classes/image_types_fsl.bbclass inherits "image_types" so
>>>> I don't think it should be necessary to list them both.
>>>>
>>> don't you have a IMAGE_FSTYPES="ext3 sdcard" hardcoded somewhere in
>>> your machine file ?
>>
>> No, as seen above, IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
>>
> bitbake yourimage -e may help to understand how IMAGE_FSTYPES is built.

I had already done this - that's where the quoted values are from.  IMAGE_FSTYPES
definitely contains all three types, but only .ext3 and .sdcard are being
built if I use image_types_fsl.

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------
Gary Thomas                 |  Consulting for the
MLB Associates              |    Embedded world
------------------------------------------------------------


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* Re: Problem with image types
  2013-10-11 16:18           ` Gary Thomas
  2013-10-11 16:15             ` Daiane Angolini
@ 2013-10-11 16:45             ` Eric Bénard
  2013-10-11 18:03               ` Gary Thomas
  2013-10-11 18:57               ` Eric Bénard
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eric Bénard @ 2013-10-11 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gary Thomas; +Cc: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org

Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:18:38 -0600,
Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :

> On 2013-10-11 10:13, Eric Bénard wrote:
> > Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:37:48 -0600,
> > Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :
> >
> >> On 2013-10-11 09:35, Eric Bénard wrote:
> >>> Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:52:30 -0600,
> >>> Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> On 2013-10-11 08:39, Chris Larson wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com <mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       I'm using image_types_fsl from meta-fsl-arm and running into
> >>>>>       some issues.  If I set
> >>>>>          IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
> >>>>>          IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types_fsl"
> >>>>>       I only end up with .ext3 and .sdcard images - no .tar.bz2.
> >>>>>       If I use the default
> >>>>>          IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
> >>>>>       then I get .tar.bz2 but no .sdcard
> >>>>>
> >>>>>       How can I have them all at once?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Note that IMAGE_CLASSES is plural, not singular :)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> IMAGE_CLASSES = "image_types image_types_fsl", presumably.
> >>>>
> >>>> When I tried that, I got the same results as just IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
> >>>> Also, meta-fsl-arm/classes/image_types_fsl.bbclass inherits "image_types" so
> >>>> I don't think it should be necessary to list them both.
> >>>>
> >>> don't you have a IMAGE_FSTYPES="ext3 sdcard" hardcoded somewhere in
> >>> your machine file ?
> >>
> >> No, as seen above, IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
> >>
> > bitbake yourimage -e may help to understand how IMAGE_FSTYPES is built.
> 
> I had already done this - that's where the quoted values are from.  IMAGE_FSTYPES
> definitely contains all three types, but only .ext3 and .sdcard are being
> built if I use image_types_fsl.
> 
strange I've launched a build for nitrogen6x to see if I reproduce the
problem here.
Usually I don't touch IMAGE_CLASSES but only IMAGE_FSTYPES
(as IMAGE_CLASSES is set by IMAGE_CLASSES += "image_types_fsl"
in ./conf/machine/include/fsl-default-settings.inc)

Eric


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* Re: Problem with image types
  2013-10-11 16:45             ` Eric Bénard
@ 2013-10-11 18:03               ` Gary Thomas
  2013-10-11 18:57               ` Eric Bénard
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Gary Thomas @ 2013-10-11 18:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Bénard; +Cc: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org

On 2013-10-11 10:45, Eric Bénard wrote:
> Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:18:38 -0600,
> Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :
>
>> On 2013-10-11 10:13, Eric Bénard wrote:
>>> Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 09:37:48 -0600,
>>> Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> On 2013-10-11 09:35, Eric Bénard wrote:
>>>>> Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 08:52:30 -0600,
>>>>> Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2013-10-11 08:39, Chris Larson wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Gary Thomas <gary@mlbassoc.com <mailto:gary@mlbassoc.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        I'm using image_types_fsl from meta-fsl-arm and running into
>>>>>>>        some issues.  If I set
>>>>>>>           IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
>>>>>>>           IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types_fsl"
>>>>>>>        I only end up with .ext3 and .sdcard images - no .tar.bz2.
>>>>>>>        If I use the default
>>>>>>>           IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
>>>>>>>        then I get .tar.bz2 but no .sdcard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>        How can I have them all at once?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that IMAGE_CLASSES is plural, not singular :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IMAGE_CLASSES = "image_types image_types_fsl", presumably.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When I tried that, I got the same results as just IMAGE_CLASSES="image_types"
>>>>>> Also, meta-fsl-arm/classes/image_types_fsl.bbclass inherits "image_types" so
>>>>>> I don't think it should be necessary to list them both.
>>>>>>
>>>>> don't you have a IMAGE_FSTYPES="ext3 sdcard" hardcoded somewhere in
>>>>> your machine file ?
>>>>
>>>> No, as seen above, IMAGE_FSTYPES="tar.bz2 ext3 sdcard"
>>>>
>>> bitbake yourimage -e may help to understand how IMAGE_FSTYPES is built.
>>
>> I had already done this - that's where the quoted values are from.  IMAGE_FSTYPES
>> definitely contains all three types, but only .ext3 and .sdcard are being
>> built if I use image_types_fsl.
>>
> strange I've launched a build for nitrogen6x to see if I reproduce the
> problem here.

I'm not sure what happened, but I just ran another build and now all is happy.
I must have made a typo or some such to cause my confusion.

Seems like it is working as expected - sorry for the noise.

> Usually I don't touch IMAGE_CLASSES but only IMAGE_FSTYPES
> (as IMAGE_CLASSES is set by IMAGE_CLASSES += "image_types_fsl"
> in ./conf/machine/include/fsl-default-settings.inc)


-- 
------------------------------------------------------------
Gary Thomas                 |  Consulting for the
MLB Associates              |    Embedded world
------------------------------------------------------------


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* Re: Problem with image types
  2013-10-11 16:45             ` Eric Bénard
  2013-10-11 18:03               ` Gary Thomas
@ 2013-10-11 18:57               ` Eric Bénard
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eric Bénard @ 2013-10-11 18:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eric Bénard; +Cc: meta-freescale@yoctoproject.org

Le Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:45:05 +0200,
Eric Bénard <eric@eukrea.com> a écrit :
> strange I've launched a build for nitrogen6x to see if I reproduce the
> problem here.
> Usually I don't touch IMAGE_CLASSES but only IMAGE_FSTYPES
> (as IMAGE_CLASSES is set by IMAGE_CLASSES += "image_types_fsl"
> in ./conf/machine/include/fsl-default-settings.inc)
> 
and in the end I get .ext3 .sdcard and .tar.bz2 files.
Note that I'm not changing IMAGE_CLASSES nor IMAGe_FSTYPES anywhere.

Eric


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2013-10-11 15:37       ` Gary Thomas
2013-10-11 16:13         ` Eric Bénard
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