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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@arm.com>,
	"linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	"linux390@de.ibm.com" <linux390@de.ibm.com>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] drivers: base: support cpu cache information interface to userspace via sysfs
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:03:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53AC6E78.8000706@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140626185005.GA32514@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>



On 26/06/14 19:50, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 07:41:32PM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 25/06/14 23:23, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 06:30:37PM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>>>> +		coherency_line_size: the minimum amount of data that gets transferred
>>>
>>> So, what value to do envision this taking for a CPU where the cache
>>> line size is 32 bytes, but each cache line has two dirty bits which
>>> allow it to only evict either the upper or lower 16 bytes depending
>>> on which are dirty?
>>>
>>
>> IIUC most of existing implementations of cacheinfo on various architectures
>> are representing the cache line size as coherency_line_size, in which case I
>> need fix the definition in this file.
>
> As an example, here's an extract from the SA110 TRM:
>
> StrongARM contains a 16KByte writeback data cache. The DC has 512 lines
> of 32 bytes (8 words), arranged as a 32 way set associative cache, and
> uses the virtual addresses generated by the processor. A line also
> contains the physical address the block was fetched from and two dirty
> bits. There is a dirty bit associated with both the first and second
> half of the block. When a store hits in the cache the dirty bit
> associated with it is set. When a block is evicted from the cache the
> dirty bits are used to decide if all, half, or none of the block will
> be written back to memory using the physical address stored with the
> block. The DC is always reloaded a line at a time (8 words).
>

Thanks for the information. It's interesting that line is referred as block
when referring to 2 dirty bits. I am not sure if this can be mapped to 
physical_line_partition = 2. Thoughts ?

>> BTW will there be any architectural way of finding such configuration ?
>
> Not that I know of.
>
That's bad :)

Regards,
Sudeep


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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@arm.com>,
	"linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	"linux390@de.ibm.com" <linux390@de.ibm.com>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] drivers: base: support cpu cache information interface to userspace via sysfs
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 20:03:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53AC6E78.8000706@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140626185005.GA32514@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>



On 26/06/14 19:50, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 07:41:32PM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 25/06/14 23:23, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 06:30:37PM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>>>> +		coherency_line_size: the minimum amount of data that gets transferred
>>>
>>> So, what value to do envision this taking for a CPU where the cache
>>> line size is 32 bytes, but each cache line has two dirty bits which
>>> allow it to only evict either the upper or lower 16 bytes depending
>>> on which are dirty?
>>>
>>
>> IIUC most of existing implementations of cacheinfo on various architectures
>> are representing the cache line size as coherency_line_size, in which case I
>> need fix the definition in this file.
>
> As an example, here's an extract from the SA110 TRM:
>
> StrongARM contains a 16KByte writeback data cache. The DC has 512 lines
> of 32 bytes (8 words), arranged as a 32 way set associative cache, and
> uses the virtual addresses generated by the processor. A line also
> contains the physical address the block was fetched from and two dirty
> bits. There is a dirty bit associated with both the first and second
> half of the block. When a store hits in the cache the dirty bit
> associated with it is set. When a block is evicted from the cache the
> dirty bits are used to decide if all, half, or none of the block will
> be written back to memory using the physical address stored with the
> block. The DC is always reloaded a line at a time (8 words).
>

Thanks for the information. It's interesting that line is referred as block
when referring to 2 dirty bits. I am not sure if this can be mapped to 
physical_line_partition = 2. Thoughts ?

>> BTW will there be any architectural way of finding such configuration ?
>
> Not that I know of.
>
That's bad :)

Regards,
Sudeep

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <Lorenzo.Pieralisi@arm.com>,
	"linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org" <linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	"linux390@de.ibm.com" <linux390@de.ibm.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/9] drivers: base: support cpu cache information interface to userspace via sysfs
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 20:03:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53AC6E78.8000706@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140626185005.GA32514@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>



On 26/06/14 19:50, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 07:41:32PM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 25/06/14 23:23, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 06:30:37PM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>>>> +=09=09coherency_line_size: the minimum amount of data that gets trans=
ferred
>>>
>>> So, what value to do envision this taking for a CPU where the cache
>>> line size is 32 bytes, but each cache line has two dirty bits which
>>> allow it to only evict either the upper or lower 16 bytes depending
>>> on which are dirty?
>>>
>>
>> IIUC most of existing implementations of cacheinfo on various architectu=
res
>> are representing the cache line size as coherency_line_size, in which ca=
se I
>> need fix the definition in this file.
>
> As an example, here's an extract from the SA110 TRM:
>
> StrongARM contains a 16KByte writeback data cache. The DC has 512 lines
> of 32 bytes (8 words), arranged as a 32 way set associative cache, and
> uses the virtual addresses generated by the processor. A line also
> contains the physical address the block was fetched from and two dirty
> bits. There is a dirty bit associated with both the first and second
> half of the block. When a store hits in the cache the dirty bit
> associated with it is set. When a block is evicted from the cache the
> dirty bits are used to decide if all, half, or none of the block will
> be written back to memory using the physical address stored with the
> block. The DC is always reloaded a line at a time (8 words).
>

Thanks for the information. It's interesting that line is referred as block
when referring to 2 dirty bits. I am not sure if this can be mapped to=20
physical_line_partition =3D 2. Thoughts ?

>> BTW will there be any architectural way of finding such configuration ?
>
> Not that I know of.
>
That's bad :)

Regards,
Sudeep

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: sudeep.holla@arm.com (Sudeep Holla)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 2/9] drivers: base: support cpu cache information interface to userspace via sysfs
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 20:03:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53AC6E78.8000706@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140626185005.GA32514@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>



On 26/06/14 19:50, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 07:41:32PM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 25/06/14 23:23, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 06:30:37PM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>>>> +		coherency_line_size: the minimum amount of data that gets transferred
>>>
>>> So, what value to do envision this taking for a CPU where the cache
>>> line size is 32 bytes, but each cache line has two dirty bits which
>>> allow it to only evict either the upper or lower 16 bytes depending
>>> on which are dirty?
>>>
>>
>> IIUC most of existing implementations of cacheinfo on various architectures
>> are representing the cache line size as coherency_line_size, in which case I
>> need fix the definition in this file.
>
> As an example, here's an extract from the SA110 TRM:
>
> StrongARM contains a 16KByte writeback data cache. The DC has 512 lines
> of 32 bytes (8 words), arranged as a 32 way set associative cache, and
> uses the virtual addresses generated by the processor. A line also
> contains the physical address the block was fetched from and two dirty
> bits. There is a dirty bit associated with both the first and second
> half of the block. When a store hits in the cache the dirty bit
> associated with it is set. When a block is evicted from the cache the
> dirty bits are used to decide if all, half, or none of the block will
> be written back to memory using the physical address stored with the
> block. The DC is always reloaded a line at a time (8 words).
>

Thanks for the information. It's interesting that line is referred as block
when referring to 2 dirty bits. I am not sure if this can be mapped to 
physical_line_partition = 2. Thoughts ?

>> BTW will there be any architectural way of finding such configuration ?
>
> Not that I know of.
>
That's bad :)

Regards,
Sudeep

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-26 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-25 17:30 [PATCH 0/9] drivers: cacheinfo support Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30 ` [PATCH 1/9] drivers: base: add new class "cpu" to group cpu devices Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30 ` [PATCH 2/9] drivers: base: support cpu cache information interface to userspace via sysfs Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 22:23   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-25 22:23     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-25 22:23     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-25 22:23     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-26 18:41     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-26 18:41       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-26 18:41       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-26 18:41       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-26 18:50       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-26 18:50         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-26 18:50         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-26 18:50         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-26 19:03         ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2014-06-26 19:03           ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-26 19:03           ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-26 19:03           ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-10  0:09   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-07-10  0:09     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-07-10  0:09     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-07-10  0:09     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-07-10 13:37     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-10 13:37       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-10 13:37       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-10 13:37       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30 ` [PATCH 3/9] ia64: move cacheinfo sysfs to generic cacheinfo infrastructure Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30 ` [PATCH 4/9] s390: " Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30 ` [PATCH 5/9] x86: " Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30 ` [PATCH 6/9] powerpc: " Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30 ` [PATCH 7/9] ARM64: kernel: add support for cpu cache information Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-27 10:36   ` Mark Rutland
2014-06-27 10:36     ` Mark Rutland
2014-06-27 11:22     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-27 11:22       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-27 11:34       ` Mark Rutland
2014-06-27 11:34         ` Mark Rutland
2014-06-25 17:30 ` [PATCH 8/9] ARM: " Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 22:33   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-25 22:33     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-26 11:33     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-26 11:33       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-26  0:19   ` Stephen Boyd
2014-06-26  0:19     ` Stephen Boyd
2014-06-26 11:36     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-26 11:36       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-26 18:45       ` Stephen Boyd
2014-06-26 18:45         ` Stephen Boyd
2014-06-27  9:38         ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-27  9:38           ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30 ` [PATCH 9/9] ARM: kernel: add outer cache support for cacheinfo implementation Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 17:30   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-25 22:37   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-25 22:37     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-26 13:02     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-06-26 13:02       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] drivers: cacheinfo support Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44   ` [PATCH v2 1/9] drivers: base: add new class "cpu" to group cpu devices Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 19:09     ` Stephen Boyd
2014-07-28 13:37       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44   ` [PATCH v2 2/9] drivers: base: support cpu cache information interface to userspace via sysfs Sudeep Holla
2014-07-29 23:09     ` Stephen Boyd
2014-07-30 16:23       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-31 19:46         ` Stephen Boyd
2014-08-05 18:15           ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44   ` [PATCH v2 3/9] ia64: move cacheinfo sysfs to generic cacheinfo infrastructure Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44   ` [PATCH v2 4/9] s390: " Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44   ` [PATCH v2 5/9] x86: " Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44   ` [PATCH v2 6/9] powerpc: " Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44   ` [PATCH v2 7/9] ARM64: kernel: add support for cpu cache information Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44   ` [PATCH v2 8/9] ARM: " Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44   ` [PATCH v2 9/9] ARM: kernel: add outer cache support for cacheinfo implementation Sudeep Holla
2014-07-25 16:44     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] drivers: cacheinfo support Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] cpumask: factor out show_cpumap into separate helper function Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] topology: replace custom attribute macros with standard DEVICE_ATTR* Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] drivers: base: add new class "cpu" to group cpu devices Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 11:20       ` David Herrmann
2014-08-21 12:30         ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 12:37           ` David Herrmann
2014-08-21 14:54             ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-22  9:12           ` Kay Sievers
2014-08-22 11:29             ` [PATCH] drivers: base: add cpu_device_create to support per-cpu devices Sudeep Holla
2014-08-22 11:37               ` David Herrmann
2014-08-22 11:41                 ` David Herrmann
2014-08-22 12:33                   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-26 16:54                     ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-26 17:08                       ` David Herrmann
2014-08-22 12:17                 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-09-02 17:22               ` Sudeep Holla
2014-09-02 17:26                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-09-02 17:40                   ` Sudeep Holla
2014-09-02 17:55                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-08-21 10:59     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] drivers: base: support cpu cache information interface to userspace via sysfs Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] ia64: move cacheinfo sysfs to generic cacheinfo infrastructure Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] s390: " Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] x86: " Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] powerpc: " Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] ARM64: kernel: add support for cpu cache information Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] ARM: " Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59       ` Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] ARM: kernel: add outer cache support for cacheinfo implementation Sudeep Holla
2014-08-21 10:59       ` Sudeep Holla

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