From: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Cong Wang <cwang-xCSkyg8dI+0RB7SZvlqPiA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: netdev <netdev-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
Stephen Hemminger
<stephen-OTpzqLSitTUnbdJkjeBofR2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman"
<ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Andrew Morton
<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
David Miller <davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] netns: allow to identify peer netns
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:23:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54228D87.3070309@6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHA+R7NnBJ=T3sukzzp-OD2am1nd318XbrXCX84LfSL=nu9ojw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
Le 23/09/2014 21:22, Cong Wang a écrit :
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Nicolas Dichtel
> <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com> wrote:
>>
>> Here is a small screenshot to show how it can be used by userland:
>> $ ip netns add foo
>> $ ip netns del foo
>> $ ip netns
>> $ touch /var/run/netns/init_net
>> $ mount --bind /proc/1/ns/net /var/run/netns/init_net
>> $ ip netns add foo
>> $ ip netns
>> foo (id: 3)
>> init_net (id: 1)
>> $ ip netns exec foo ip netns
>> foo (id: 3)
>> init_net (id: 1)
>> $ ip netns exec foo ip link add ipip1 link-netnsid 1 type ipip remote 10.16.0.121 local 10.16.0.249
>> $ ip netns exec foo ip l ls ipip1
>> 6: ipip1@NONE: <POINTOPOINT,NOARP> mtu 1480 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default
>> link/ipip 10.16.0.249 peer 10.16.0.121 link-netnsid 1
>>
>> The parameter link-netnsid shows us where the interface sends and receives
>> packets (and thus we know where encapsulated addresses are set).
>>
>
> So ipip1 is shown in netns foo but functioning in netns init_net? Getting the
> id of init_net in foo depends on your mount namespace, /var/run/netns/ may
> not visible inside foo, in this case, link-netnsid is meaningless. It
> is not your
> fault, network namespace already heavily relies on mount namespace (sysfs
> needs to be remount otherwise you can not create device with the same name.)
>
> On the other hand, what's the problem you are trying to solve? AFAIK,
> the ifindex
> issue is purely in output, IOW, the device still functions correctly
> even through
> its link ifindex is not correct after moving to another namespace. If
> not, it is bug
> we need to fix.
>
The problem is explained here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network/315933/focus=316064
and here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.containers/28301/focus=4239
Regards,
Nicolas
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From: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>
To: Cong Wang <cwang@twopensource.com>
Cc: netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] netns: allow to identify peer netns
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:23:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54228D87.3070309@6wind.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHA+R7NnBJ=T3sukzzp-OD2am1nd318XbrXCX84LfSL=nu9ojw@mail.gmail.com>
Le 23/09/2014 21:22, Cong Wang a écrit :
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Nicolas Dichtel
> <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com> wrote:
>>
>> Here is a small screenshot to show how it can be used by userland:
>> $ ip netns add foo
>> $ ip netns del foo
>> $ ip netns
>> $ touch /var/run/netns/init_net
>> $ mount --bind /proc/1/ns/net /var/run/netns/init_net
>> $ ip netns add foo
>> $ ip netns
>> foo (id: 3)
>> init_net (id: 1)
>> $ ip netns exec foo ip netns
>> foo (id: 3)
>> init_net (id: 1)
>> $ ip netns exec foo ip link add ipip1 link-netnsid 1 type ipip remote 10.16.0.121 local 10.16.0.249
>> $ ip netns exec foo ip l ls ipip1
>> 6: ipip1@NONE: <POINTOPOINT,NOARP> mtu 1480 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default
>> link/ipip 10.16.0.249 peer 10.16.0.121 link-netnsid 1
>>
>> The parameter link-netnsid shows us where the interface sends and receives
>> packets (and thus we know where encapsulated addresses are set).
>>
>
> So ipip1 is shown in netns foo but functioning in netns init_net? Getting the
> id of init_net in foo depends on your mount namespace, /var/run/netns/ may
> not visible inside foo, in this case, link-netnsid is meaningless. It
> is not your
> fault, network namespace already heavily relies on mount namespace (sysfs
> needs to be remount otherwise you can not create device with the same name.)
>
> On the other hand, what's the problem you are trying to solve? AFAIK,
> the ifindex
> issue is purely in output, IOW, the device still functions correctly
> even through
> its link ifindex is not correct after moving to another namespace. If
> not, it is bug
> we need to fix.
>
The problem is explained here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.network/315933/focus=316064
and here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.containers/28301/focus=4239
Regards,
Nicolas
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2014-09-23 13:20 [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] netns: allow to identify peer netns Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 1/5] netns: allocate netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 2/5] netns: add genl cmd to get the id of a netns Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 3/5] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 4/5] iptunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <1411478430-4989-1-git-send-email-nicolas.dichtel-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 1/5] netns: allocate netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 2/5] netns: add genl cmd to get the id of a netns Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 3/5] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 4/5] iptunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 5/5] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 13:20 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-23 19:22 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] netns: allow to identify peer netns Cong Wang
2014-09-23 19:22 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-23 19:22 ` Cong Wang
[not found] ` <CAHA+R7NnBJ=T3sukzzp-OD2am1nd318XbrXCX84LfSL=nu9ojw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-24 9:23 ` Nicolas Dichtel [this message]
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2014-09-24 16:01 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-24 16:01 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-24 16:01 ` Cong Wang
[not found] ` <CAHA+R7NfJYzCsZx0E9YVXKVCQbCm_thPSi+80tix8Z9nVA82Ug-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-24 16:15 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-24 16:15 ` Cong Wang
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2014-09-24 16:31 ` Nicolas Dichtel
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2014-09-24 16:48 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-24 16:48 ` Cong Wang
[not found] ` <CAHA+R7MM04ew=J8sHfSQERwoCAgEDfrGgtgRORqs3ePgtjVYWg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-25 8:53 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-25 8:53 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <5423D808.7050800-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-26 1:58 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-26 1:58 ` Cong Wang
[not found] ` <CAHA+R7OdOUMShX6Nphdfh8+fGiXyO+sGNHy0ch_XYh5dpURcmQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-26 13:38 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-26 13:38 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-24 16:27 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-24 16:27 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <5422F0F4.6000709-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-24 16:45 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-24 16:45 ` Cong Wang
[not found] ` <CAHA+R7Ot2kLHb+ne5AW3bFNc87qkFOiEHEyDh9sFrsHqXgrY3g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-25 8:53 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-25 8:53 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <5423D80B.9060500-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-26 2:09 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-26 2:09 ` Cong Wang
2014-09-26 13:40 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-26 13:40 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <54256CCB.4000709-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-26 19:15 ` David Ahern
2014-09-26 19:15 ` David Ahern
[not found] ` <5425BB3E.10700-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-26 19:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 19:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 19:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 19:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87mw9myy4n.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-26 19:44 ` David Ahern
2014-09-26 19:44 ` David Ahern
[not found] ` <5425C22F.7050301-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-26 20:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 20:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 20:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 20:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87tx3uun4q.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-26 20:56 ` David Ahern
2014-09-26 20:56 ` David Ahern
2014-09-23 19:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-23 19:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWnZtWstBviDxcHpLpjHF3R+sgS48RYf2pbKBYeExZVOQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-24 9:31 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-24 9:31 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <54228F8B.2030804-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-24 17:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-24 17:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-24 17:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
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2014-09-25 7:54 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-25 7:54 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-25 7:54 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-26 18:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 18:10 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87ppei45ig.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-26 18:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-09-26 18:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrX5e0cp4QFCv1eAqR1hjoROU9Rh=cRos9U35DaR-py3Eg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-26 18:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-26 18:57 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87y4t61a6v.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-29 12:06 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-09-29 12:06 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <54294B4E.70501-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-09-29 18:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-09-29 18:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87y4t2gtd0.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-02 13:46 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:46 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <542D5726.8070308-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-02 13:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 0/4] " Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <1412257690-31253-1-git-send-email-nicolas.dichtel-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-02 13:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 1/4] netns: add genl cmd to add and get peer netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <1412257690-31253-2-git-send-email-nicolas.dichtel-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-02 19:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-02 19:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87tx3mmflp.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-03 12:22 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-03 12:22 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-03 12:22 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 2/4] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 3/4] iptunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v3 4/4] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 13:48 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` [PATCH net-next v4 0/4] netns: allow to identify peer netns Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` [PATCH net-next v4 1/4] netns: add genl cmd to add and get peer netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <1414682728-4532-2-git-send-email-nicolas.dichtel-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-30 18:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 18:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <874mulh0cs.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-31 9:41 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-31 9:41 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-31 9:41 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <1414682728-4532-1-git-send-email-nicolas.dichtel-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-30 15:25 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` [PATCH net-next v4 2/4] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` [PATCH net-next v4 3/4] iptunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` [PATCH net-next v4 4/4] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 18:41 ` [PATCH net-next v4 0/4] netns: allow to identify peer netns Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-30 18:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <871tpph03k.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-31 9:48 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-31 9:48 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-31 9:48 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <54535B00.5090708-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-31 19:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-31 19:14 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 " Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 1/4] netns: add rtnl cmd to add and get peer netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 2/4] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 3/4] tunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <1421331078-21622-1-git-send-email-nicolas.dichtel-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 1/4] netns: add rtnl cmd to add and get peer netns ids Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 2/4] rtnl: add link netns id to interface messages Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 3/4] tunnels: advertise link netns via netlink Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 4/4] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-19 19:16 ` [PATCH net-next v5 0/4] netns: allow to identify peer netns David Miller
2015-01-19 19:16 ` David Miller
2015-01-19 19:16 ` David Miller
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 4/4] rtnl: allow to create device with IFLA_LINK_NETNSID set Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <87wq7g831b.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-05 14:23 ` [PATCH net-next v4 0/4] netns: allow to identify peer netns Nicolas Dichtel
2014-11-05 14:23 ` Nicolas Dichtel
[not found] ` <545A32C4.7070108-pdR9zngts4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-12-04 16:21 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-12-04 16:21 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2015-01-15 14:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 " Nicolas Dichtel
2014-11-01 21:08 ` [PATCH net-next v4 " David Miller
2014-11-01 21:08 ` David Miller
2014-11-01 21:08 ` David Miller
2014-11-24 13:45 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-11-24 13:45 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-30 15:25 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-02 19:20 ` [RFC PATCH net-next v2 0/5] " Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-02 19:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <8761g2nurx.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-02 19:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-02 19:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWxqzUF1x+TmW5G4kuHPP+sUtiRaT6dpZ0mQTJ217QB5w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-02 19:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-10-02 19:45 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <877g0il0gd.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-10-02 19:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-02 19:48 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-10-03 12:22 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2014-10-03 12:22 ` Nicolas Dichtel
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