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From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
To: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/21] irqchip: gic: killing gic_arch_extn and co, slowly
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 15:39:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B3EA9F.3030501@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqLLGn1mZr7eNuLA1=M7BcwFRdOQ6xQGo+bbc2aScAVrnQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/01/15 14:14, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com> wrote:
>> The gic_arch_extn hack that a number of platform use has been nagging
>> me for too long. It is only there for the benefit of a few platform,
>> and yet it impacts all GIC users. Moreover, it gives people the wrong
>> idea ("let's use it to put some new custom hack in there"...).
>>
>> But now that stacked irq domains have landed in -next, the time has
>> come for gic_arch_extn to meet the Big Bit Bucket.
> 
> [...]
> 
>> - This actively *breaks* existing setups. Once you boot a new kernel
>>   with an old DT, suspend/resume *will* be broken. Old kernels on a
>>   new DT won't even boot! You've been warned. This really outline the
>>   necessity of actually describing the HW in device trees...
> 
> Just to be clear, you need some agreement from the maintainers of
> those platforms before doing this. It doesn't appear there is
> disagreement, but I don't see any explicit agreement either.

I'm not trying to go behind anyone's back, if that's your concern. I
fully intend to obtain every maintainer's explicit acknowledgement
before removing any feature from the kernel. The warning above is there
to get the maintainers attention on the disrupting effect of this series.

> This seems to model the interrupts as chained, but at least for some
> cases aren't these auxiliary controllers in parallel to the GIC? In

>From looking at the various TRMs, they all look to be chained interrupt
controllers (at least Tegra, OMAP and IMX6 show this). I have not been
able to find a publicly available TRM for any of the Samsung platforms,
so this one could be different (but I really doubt it somehow).

> other words, do the they require configuration for interrupts to work
> for the normal non-wakeup use? I'm not sure that the h/w is being
> modeled any more accurately if that is the case. However, we don't
> really have a way to describe an interrupt line is connected to 2
> interrupt parents in DT, so I'm not sure what else you could do here.

The main problem is that they are not general-purpose interrupt
controllers. They all come first on the interrupt path, and somehow feed
two signals into the GIC: the actual interrupt, and the bypass signal.

None of that is representable in DT. I'm willing to take any idea though.

Thanks,

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: marc.zyngier@arm.com (Marc Zyngier)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 00/21] irqchip: gic: killing gic_arch_extn and co, slowly
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2015 15:39:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <54B3EA9F.3030501@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_JsqLLGn1mZr7eNuLA1=M7BcwFRdOQ6xQGo+bbc2aScAVrnQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/01/15 14:14, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com> wrote:
>> The gic_arch_extn hack that a number of platform use has been nagging
>> me for too long. It is only there for the benefit of a few platform,
>> and yet it impacts all GIC users. Moreover, it gives people the wrong
>> idea ("let's use it to put some new custom hack in there"...).
>>
>> But now that stacked irq domains have landed in -next, the time has
>> come for gic_arch_extn to meet the Big Bit Bucket.
> 
> [...]
> 
>> - This actively *breaks* existing setups. Once you boot a new kernel
>>   with an old DT, suspend/resume *will* be broken. Old kernels on a
>>   new DT won't even boot! You've been warned. This really outline the
>>   necessity of actually describing the HW in device trees...
> 
> Just to be clear, you need some agreement from the maintainers of
> those platforms before doing this. It doesn't appear there is
> disagreement, but I don't see any explicit agreement either.

I'm not trying to go behind anyone's back, if that's your concern. I
fully intend to obtain every maintainer's explicit acknowledgement
before removing any feature from the kernel. The warning above is there
to get the maintainers attention on the disrupting effect of this series.

> This seems to model the interrupts as chained, but at least for some
> cases aren't these auxiliary controllers in parallel to the GIC? In

>From looking at the various TRMs, they all look to be chained interrupt
controllers (at least Tegra, OMAP and IMX6 show this). I have not been
able to find a publicly available TRM for any of the Samsung platforms,
so this one could be different (but I really doubt it somehow).

> other words, do the they require configuration for interrupts to work
> for the normal non-wakeup use? I'm not sure that the h/w is being
> modeled any more accurately if that is the case. However, we don't
> really have a way to describe an interrupt line is connected to 2
> interrupt parents in DT, so I'm not sure what else you could do here.

The main problem is that they are not general-purpose interrupt
controllers. They all come first on the interrupt path, and somehow feed
two signals into the GIC: the actual interrupt, and the bypass signal.

None of that is representable in DT. I'm willing to take any idea though.

Thanks,

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-12 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-07 17:42 [PATCH v2 00/21] irqchip: gic: killing gic_arch_extn and co, slowly Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 01/21] ARM: tegra: irq: nuke leftovers from non-DT support Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08  8:56   ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-08  8:56     ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 02/21] irqchip: tegra: add DT-based support for legacy interrupt controller Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 10:13   ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-08 10:13     ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-08 15:06   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-08 15:06     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-10 12:28     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-10 12:28       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 03/21] ARM: tegra: skip gic_arch_extn setup if DT has a LIC node Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 10:16   ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-08 10:16     ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 04/21] ARM: tegra: update DTs to expose legacy interrupt controller Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 10:41   ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-08 10:41     ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-10 12:37     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-10 12:37       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 05/21] DT: tegra: add binding for the " Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 10:51   ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-08 10:51     ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-08 15:12   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-08 15:12     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 06/21] ARM: tegra: remove old LIC support Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 11:29   ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-08 11:29     ` Thierry Reding
2015-01-10 12:43     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-10 12:43       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 07/21] genirq: Add irqchip_set_wake_parent Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 15:15   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-08 15:15     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-10 12:46     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-10 12:46       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 08/21] irqchip: crossbar: convert dra7 crossbar to stacked domains Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 14:39   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-08 14:39     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-10 12:59     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-10 12:59       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 15:20   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-08 15:20     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 09/21] DT: update ti,irq-crossbar binding Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 10/21] irqchip: GIC: get rid of routable domain Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 16:13   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-08 16:13     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 11/21] DT: arm,gic: kill arm,routable-irqs Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 12/21] ARM: omap: convert wakeupgen to stacked domains Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 16:44   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-08 16:44     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-10 13:17     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-10 13:17       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 13/21] DT: omap4/5: add binding for the wake-up generator Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 16:52   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-08 16:52     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-10 13:22     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-10 13:22       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 14/21] ARM: imx6: convert GPC to stacked domains Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 16:57   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-08 16:57     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-09 17:40   ` Stefan Agner
2015-01-09 17:40     ` Stefan Agner
2015-01-10 13:34     ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-10 13:34       ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-10 14:16       ` Stefan Agner
2015-01-10 14:16         ` Stefan Agner
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 15/21] ARM: exynos4/5: convert pmu wakeup " Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-08 16:58   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-08 16:58     ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 16/21] DT: exynos: update PMU binding Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 17/21] irqchip: gic: add an entry point to set up irqchip flags Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 18/21] ARM: shmobile: remove use of gic_arch_extn.irq_set_wake Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 19/21] ARM: ux500: switch from gic_arch_extn to gic_set_irqchip_flags Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 20/21] ARM: zynq: " Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42 ` [PATCH v2 21/21] irqchip: gic: Drop support for gic_arch_extn Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 17:42   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-07 18:45 ` [PATCH v2 00/21] irqchip: gic: killing gic_arch_extn and co, slowly santosh shilimkar
2015-01-07 18:45   ` santosh shilimkar
2015-01-08  3:31 ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-08  3:31   ` Nishanth Menon
2015-01-10 13:45 ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-10 13:45   ` Marc Zyngier
2015-01-12 14:14 ` Rob Herring
2015-01-12 14:14   ` Rob Herring
2015-01-12 15:39   ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2015-01-12 15:39     ` Marc Zyngier

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