From: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>
To: tom_usenet@optusnet.com.au
Cc: "linux-can@vger.kernel.org" <linux-can@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] can: fix loss of frames due to wrong assumption in raw_rcv
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 21:56:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <558B0B6F.6010304@hartkopp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558A1244.3010908@optusnet.com.au>
On 24.06.2015 04:13, Tom Evans wrote:
> On 23/06/15 18:01, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
>> An alternative to force the timestamp to be set would be to add another
>> 'counter' to struct can_skb_priv which is just increased by the driver with
>> every received CAN frame.
>>
>> But I wonder if its worth the effort in opposite to just enable timestamping
>> in every skb. What do you think?
>
> From a programming standpoint, using a "timestamp" as a "unique identifier"
> is opaque and a poor design. If the SKB requires a "unique identifier" then it
> should be provided with something that has that description and purpose.
Hey Tom,
> The timestamp may be optional for a reason. Maybe some platforms simply don't
> provide a high resolution timestamp, and/or the timestamp comes with a high
> overhead. Can you guarantee that all current, future and past platforms
> support a low overhead and high resolution timestamp?
I have used the CAN stuff on two PowerPC, one ARM and several x86 platforms -
always with enabled timestamping - without any problems in performance.
> A new "feature" probably shouldn't change something that was optional to being
> compulsory. Would all existing CAN drivers need to be rewritten to add this
> timestamping, or is the timestamp added in higher (and more generic) layers,
> and in the one place?
The point is that out-of-tree drivers (like the PEAK-System driver) would need
to set the timestamp too to take advantage of the joint filter feature.
The mainline drivers are adapted for now with the stable patch
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/davem/net.git/commit/?id=36c01245eb8046c16eee6431e7dbfbb302635fa8
But I felt not very comfortable with this fix. The point is that I have to
take care that the processing of an incoming skb in can_receive() in af_can.c
is done in 'one step' with an unique skb. So marking the skb for the joint
filter feature in raw_rcv() can probably be done in can_receive().
I'm looking for a SMP save solution for this - to finally revert the fix
above. So thanks for the 'wake-up call' by naming the timestamping solution a
'poor design' ;-)
Best regards,
Oliver
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-24 19:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-20 17:21 [PATCH] can: fix loss of frames due to wrong assumption in raw_rcv Manfred Schlaegl
2015-06-20 22:42 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-06-20 22:42 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-06-22 9:48 ` Manfred Schlaegl
2015-06-22 9:48 ` Manfred Schlaegl
2015-06-22 10:24 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-06-22 10:24 ` Oliver Hartkopp
[not found] ` <5588E6FB.5040903@optusnet.com.au>
2015-06-23 8:01 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-06-24 2:13 ` Tom Evans
2015-06-24 19:56 ` Oliver Hartkopp [this message]
2015-06-25 8:32 ` [BULK]Re: " Stephane Grosjean
2015-06-25 9:36 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-06-29 16:13 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-04 16:54 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-05 1:18 ` Tom Evans
2015-07-05 18:21 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-06 5:44 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-06 6:50 ` Tom Evans
2015-07-06 17:09 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-06 7:58 ` [BULK]Re: " Stephane Grosjean
2015-07-06 17:14 ` Oliver Hartkopp
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-06-20 16:24 manfred.schlaegl
2015-06-20 16:24 ` manfred.schlaegl
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