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From: Oliver Hartkopp <socketcan@hartkopp.net>
To: Stephane Grosjean <s.grosjean@peak-system.com>,
	Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>
Cc: "linux-can@vger.kernel.org" <linux-can@vger.kernel.org>,
	tom_usenet@optusnet.com.au,
	Manfred Schlaegl <manfred.schlaegl@gmx.at>
Subject: Re: [BULK]Re: [PATCH] can: fix loss of frames due to wrong assumption in raw_rcv
Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 18:54:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55980FCE.4030304@hartkopp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55916EBC.2010807@hartkopp.net>

Hi Stephane,

On 29.06.2015 18:13, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
> Hi Stephane,
>
> On 25.06.2015 11:36, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
>>> Stephane Grosjean <s.grosjean@peak-system.com>
>>> (..)
>>> tells that he's facing some loss of frames with the PEAK-System PCAN-USB
>>> adapter, in case of "relatively"  high bus load... He's running two
>>> Kernels (3.19 and the last 4.1 patched with this recent "fix"). At the
>>> moment, he says he always notes some frame leakage, especially when he
>>> (for example) "resizes windows on his desktop"...

Is $COSTUMERs problem fixed now?

While testing the patches

can: fix loss of CAN frames in raw_rcv
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/mkl/linux-can.git/commit/?h=testing&id=36c01245eb8046c16eee6431e7dbfbb302635fa8

and

can: replace timestamp as unique skb attribute
http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/mkl/linux-can.git/commit/?h=testing&id=a6ffebda241e513f6e839662d769b60b084d0957

I discovered an increase of out-of-order CAN frame receptions.
My setup is a core i7 with a PCAN USB and a PCAN USB pro connected to my full 
busload CAN source (1MBit/s, ~8008 frames/s).

With 3.16 the out-of-order CAN frame reception is 'relatively' seldom.
It's more with the PCAN USB and very few with PCAN USB pro.

With the latest 4.2-merge the effect is reproducible after some time (~10min).

Examples:

  drop detected: expected 204 received 212
  drop detected: expected 237 received 204
  drop detected: expected 212 received 237
  drop detected: expected 68 received 69
  drop detected: expected 70 received 68
  drop detected: expected 69 received 70

Obviously the frames do not get lost BUT are reordered.

newcounter = frame.data[0];
if (((counter + 1) & 0xFF) != newcounter) {
  printf(" drop detected: expected %u received %u\n", counter + 1, newcounter);
}
counter = newcounter;

I'm a bit confused as this effect seems to increase with Linux kernel version 
numbers. I removed all the changes for 4.1 in the 4.2-merge kernel to have a 
4.0 CAN subsystem (which was stable for a long time) - but even this patch 
removal did not fix the out of order reception.

Good thing: The latest changes in 4.1 (which patches) do not drop CAN frames 
by accident.

Bad thing: Why is the out-of-order reception increasing in Linux?

I /assume/ some changes with RPS (receive packet steering) in the network 
layer ...


Regards,
Oliver

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-05  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-20 17:21 [PATCH] can: fix loss of frames due to wrong assumption in raw_rcv Manfred Schlaegl
2015-06-20 22:42 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-06-20 22:42   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-06-22  9:48   ` Manfred Schlaegl
2015-06-22  9:48     ` Manfred Schlaegl
2015-06-22 10:24     ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-06-22 10:24       ` Oliver Hartkopp
     [not found]       ` <5588E6FB.5040903@optusnet.com.au>
2015-06-23  8:01         ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-06-24  2:13           ` Tom Evans
2015-06-24 19:56             ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-06-25  8:32               ` [BULK]Re: " Stephane Grosjean
2015-06-25  9:36                 ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-06-29 16:13                   ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-04 16:54                     ` Oliver Hartkopp [this message]
2015-07-05  1:18                       ` Tom Evans
2015-07-05 18:21                         ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-06  5:44                           ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-06  6:50                             ` Tom Evans
2015-07-06 17:09                               ` Oliver Hartkopp
2015-07-06  7:58                       ` [BULK]Re: " Stephane Grosjean
2015-07-06 17:14                         ` Oliver Hartkopp

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