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From: Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	ulf.hansson@linaro.org,
	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	rjw@rjwysocki.net, k.kozlowski@samsung.com,
	msivasub@codeaurora.org, khilman@linaro.org,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, agross@codeaurora.org,
	sboyd@codeaurora.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 7/7] ARM: smp: Add runtime PM support for CPU hotplug
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 00:46:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55EA113D.9000806@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1509041443360.29995-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On 09/04/2015 09:45 PM, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
> 
>> There is one "small" problem with such approach :(
>>
>> - It's incompatible with -RT kernel, because PM runtime can't be used
>> in atomic context on -RT.
> 
> Can you explain this more fully?  Why can't runtime PM be used in
> atomic context in the -rt kernels?
>  

See:
 http://lwn.net/Articles/146861/
 https://rt.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_does_the_CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT_patch_work.3F

spinlock_t
    Critical sections are preemptible. The _irq operations (e.g., spin_lock_irqsave())
 do -not- disable hardware interrupts. Priority inheritance is used to prevent priority
 inversion. An underlying rt_mutex is used to implement spinlock_t in PREEMPT_RT. 

As result, have to do things like:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/8/18/161
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/8/18/162

Sorry for brief reply - Friday/Sat night :)

-- 
regards,
-grygorii

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: grygorii.strashko@ti.com (Grygorii Strashko)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 7/7] ARM: smp: Add runtime PM support for CPU hotplug
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 00:46:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55EA113D.9000806@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1509041443360.29995-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On 09/04/2015 09:45 PM, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, Grygorii Strashko wrote:
> 
>> There is one "small" problem with such approach :(
>>
>> - It's incompatible with -RT kernel, because PM runtime can't be used
>> in atomic context on -RT.
> 
> Can you explain this more fully?  Why can't runtime PM be used in
> atomic context in the -rt kernels?
>  

See:
 http://lwn.net/Articles/146861/
 https://rt.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#How_does_the_CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT_patch_work.3F

spinlock_t
    Critical sections are preemptible. The _irq operations (e.g., spin_lock_irqsave())
 do -not- disable hardware interrupts. Priority inheritance is used to prevent priority
 inversion. An underlying rt_mutex is used to implement spinlock_t in PREEMPT_RT. 

As result, have to do things like:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/8/18/161
https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/8/18/162

Sorry for brief reply - Friday/Sat night :)

-- 
regards,
-grygorii

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-04 21:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-03 19:58 [PATCH v2 0/7] PM / Domains: Generic PM domains for CPUs/Clusters Lina Iyer
2015-09-03 19:58 ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-03 19:58 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] PM / Domains: Allocate memory outside domain locks Lina Iyer
2015-09-03 19:58   ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-03 19:58 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] PM / Domains: Support IRQ safe PM domains Lina Iyer
2015-09-03 19:58   ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-04 10:02   ` Ulf Hansson
2015-09-04 10:02     ` Ulf Hansson
2015-09-04 16:05     ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-04 16:05       ` Lina Iyer
2015-10-01 21:11   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-10-01 21:11     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-09-03 19:58 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] drivers: cpu: Define CPU devices as IRQ safe Lina Iyer
2015-09-03 19:58   ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-04  4:00   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-09-04  4:00     ` Stephen Boyd
2015-09-03 19:58 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] PM / Domains: Introduce PM domains for CPUs/clusters Lina Iyer
2015-09-03 19:58   ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-04  3:54   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-09-04  3:54     ` Stephen Boyd
2015-09-03 19:58 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] ARM: cpuidle: Add runtime PM support for CPU idle Lina Iyer
2015-09-03 19:58   ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-03 19:58 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] ARM64: smp: Add runtime PM support for CPU hotplug Lina Iyer
2015-09-03 19:58   ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-30 12:36   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-09-30 12:36     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-09-03 19:58 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] ARM: " Lina Iyer
2015-09-03 19:58   ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-04  3:59   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-09-04  3:59     ` Stephen Boyd
2015-09-04 15:13     ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-04 15:13       ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-04  7:39   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-09-04  7:39     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-09-04  9:17   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-04  9:17     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-04  9:27     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-04  9:27       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-04 15:12       ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-04 15:12         ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-04 16:23         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-04 16:23           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-04 17:02           ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-04 17:02             ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-04 17:46             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-04 17:46               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-04 17:57         ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-09-04 17:57           ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-09-04 18:45           ` Alan Stern
2015-09-04 18:45             ` Alan Stern
2015-09-04 21:46             ` Grygorii Strashko [this message]
2015-09-04 21:46               ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-09-05 15:39               ` Alan Stern
2015-09-05 15:39                 ` Alan Stern
2015-09-07 13:04                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-09-07 13:04                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-09-07 13:37                   ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-09-07 13:37                     ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-09-07 20:42                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-09-07 20:42                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-09-08  8:21                       ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-09-08  8:21                         ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-09-08 22:03                         ` Kevin Hilman
2015-09-08 22:03                           ` Kevin Hilman
2015-09-10 11:01                           ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-09-10 11:01                             ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-09-22 17:32                             ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-22 17:32                               ` Lina Iyer
2015-09-22 20:53                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-22 20:53                                 ` Thomas Gleixner

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