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From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>, Michael Brown <mcb30@ipxe.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Robert Moore <robert.moore@intel.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>, Lv Zheng <lv.zheng@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	long.wanglong@huawei.com, Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	qiuxishi@huawei.com, Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	david.e.box@intel.com, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] paravirt: rename paravirt_enabled to paravirt_legacy
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:19:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56C4F208.2010505@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160217220304.GP2023@pd.tnic>

On 02/17/2016 05:03 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 04:21:56PM -0500, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>> That's exactly the point: if something is mapped it's an error for a
>> non-PV kernel.
> How would something be mapped there? __PAGE_OFFSET is
> 0xffff880000000000.
>
> Or are you thinking about some insanely b0rked kernel code mapping stuff
> in there?

The latter. This is to detect things that clearly shouldn't be happening.

>
>> By removing paravirt_enabled() we may miss those errors. Worse, I think we
>> may even crash while doing pagetable walk (although it's probably better to
>> crash here than to use an unexpected translation in real code somewhere)
> Well, if this is the only site which keeps paravirt_enabled() from being
> buried, we need to think about a better way to detect a hypervisor.
> Maybe we should look at x86_hyper, use CPUID(0x4...)

Can't use CPUID 0x40000000 because it will return hypervisor (Xen or 
otherwise) for non-PV guests as well. In Xen's case, you can't determine 
guest type from hypervisor leaves.


> or something else.

We could say xen_pv_domain(). But this means using Xen-specific code in 
x86-generic file to detect things specified by ABI. I don't know if I'd 
like that.

-boris

>
> What's your preference?
>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	david.e.box@intel.com, Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	Lv Zheng <lv.zheng@intel.com>, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	qiuxishi@huawei.com,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>,
	Xen Devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Robert Moore <robert.moore@intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@virtuozzo.com>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Michael Brown <mcb30@ipxe.org>, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	David Vrabel <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
	long.wanglong@h
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 3/3] paravirt: rename paravirt_enabled to paravirt_legacy
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:19:52 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56C4F208.2010505@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160217220304.GP2023@pd.tnic>

On 02/17/2016 05:03 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 04:21:56PM -0500, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>> That's exactly the point: if something is mapped it's an error for a
>> non-PV kernel.
> How would something be mapped there? __PAGE_OFFSET is
> 0xffff880000000000.
>
> Or are you thinking about some insanely b0rked kernel code mapping stuff
> in there?

The latter. This is to detect things that clearly shouldn't be happening.

>
>> By removing paravirt_enabled() we may miss those errors. Worse, I think we
>> may even crash while doing pagetable walk (although it's probably better to
>> crash here than to use an unexpected translation in real code somewhere)
> Well, if this is the only site which keeps paravirt_enabled() from being
> buried, we need to think about a better way to detect a hypervisor.
> Maybe we should look at x86_hyper, use CPUID(0x4...)

Can't use CPUID 0x40000000 because it will return hypervisor (Xen or 
otherwise) for non-PV guests as well. In Xen's case, you can't determine 
guest type from hypervisor leaves.


> or something else.

We could say xen_pv_domain(). But this means using Xen-specific code in 
x86-generic file to detect things specified by ABI. I don't know if I'd 
like that.

-boris

>
> What's your preference?
>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-17 22:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-06  4:30 [PATCH v2 0/3] paravirt: rebrand paravirt_enabled as paravirt_legacy Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  4:30 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  4:30 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] paravirt: use bool for paravirt_enabled() and paravirt_has_feature() Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  4:30 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] paravirt: replace direct access to pv_info.paravirt_enabled Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  4:30   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  4:30 ` [Cocci] [PATCH v2 3/3] paravirt: rename paravirt_enabled to paravirt_legacy Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  4:30   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  4:30   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  7:11   ` [Cocci] " Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-06  7:11     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-06  7:11     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-06  8:59     ` [Cocci] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  8:59       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06  8:59       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-06 20:05       ` [Cocci] " Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-06 20:05         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-06 20:05         ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-06 22:04         ` [Cocci] " Borislav Petkov
2016-02-06 22:04           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-06 22:04           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 15:39           ` [Cocci] " Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 15:39             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 15:39             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 15:55             ` [Cocci] " Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 15:55               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 15:55               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:05               ` [Cocci] [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:05                 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:05                 ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:12                 ` [Cocci] " Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:12                   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:12                   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:26                   ` [Cocci] " Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:26                     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:26                     ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:31                     ` [Cocci] " Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:31                       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:31                       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:32                       ` [Cocci] " Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:32                         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:32                         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:35                       ` [Cocci] " Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:35                         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:35                         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:38                         ` [Cocci] " Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:38                           ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:38                           ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:45                           ` [Cocci] " Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:45                             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:45                             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:52                             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:52                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 20:45                               ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 20:45                                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 21:06                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 21:06                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:53                             ` [Cocci] " Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:53                               ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 16:53                               ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-08 17:13                               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 17:13                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-09  6:22                               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-09  6:22                                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-08 16:41                         ` [Cocci] " Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:41                           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:41                           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 16:52                           ` [Cocci] " Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:52                             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 16:52                             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 15:31         ` [Cocci] " Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 15:31           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 15:31           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 15:46           ` [Cocci] " Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 15:46             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-08 15:46             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-09  6:59             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-09  6:59               ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-08 21:04           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-08 21:04             ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-09  7:06           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-09  7:06             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-17 20:07             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-17 20:49               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-17 20:49                 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-17 21:12                 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-17 21:12                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-17 21:21                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-17 21:21                   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-17 22:03                   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-17 22:03                     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-17 22:18                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-17 22:18                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-02-17 22:39                       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-17 22:39                         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-17 23:39                         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-17 23:39                           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-02-17 22:19                     ` Boris Ostrovsky [this message]
2016-02-17 22:19                       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-17 22:35                     ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-17 22:35                       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-09  6:41         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-09  6:41           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-08 21:49       ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-08 21:49         ` Boris Ostrovsky

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