From: Sergey Fedorov <serge.fdrv@gmail.com>
To: Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@gmail.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
"open list:All patches CC here" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Cc: alex.bennee@linaro.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 01/14] Introduce TCGOpcode for memory barrier
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 00:21:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <57685E76.5040805@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160618040343.19517-2-bobby.prani@gmail.com>
On 18/06/16 07:03, Pranith Kumar wrote:
> diff --git a/tcg/tcg.h b/tcg/tcg.h
> index db6a062..36feca9 100644
> --- a/tcg/tcg.h
> +++ b/tcg/tcg.h
> @@ -408,6 +408,20 @@ static inline intptr_t QEMU_ARTIFICIAL GET_TCGV_PTR(TCGv_ptr t)
> #define TCG_CALL_DUMMY_TCGV MAKE_TCGV_I32(-1)
> #define TCG_CALL_DUMMY_ARG ((TCGArg)(-1))
>
> +typedef enum {
> + TCG_MO_LD_LD = 1,
> + TCG_MO_ST_LD = 2,
> + TCG_MO_LD_ST = 4,
> + TCG_MO_ST_ST = 8,
> + TCG_MO_ALL = 0xF, // OR of all above
So TCG_MO_ALL specifies a so called "full" memory barrier?
> +} TCGOrder;
> +
> +typedef enum {
> + TCG_BAR_ACQ = 32,
> + TCG_BAR_REL = 64,
I'm convinced that the only practical way to represent a standalone
acquire memory barrier is to order all previous loads with all
subsequent loads and stores. Similarly, a standalone release memory
barrier would order all previous loads and stores with all subsequent
stores. [1]
On the other hand, acquire or release semantic associated with a memory
operation itself can be directly mapped into e.g. AArch64's Load-Acquire
(LDAR) and Store-Release (STLR) instructions. A standalone barrier
adjacent to a memory operation shouldn't be mapped this way because it
should provide more strict guarantees than e.g. AArch64 instructions
mentioned above.
Therefore, I advocate for clear distinction between standalone memory
barriers and implicit memory ordering semantics associated with memory
operations themselves.
[1] http://preshing.com/20130922/acquire-and-release-fences/
> + TCG_BAR_SC = 128,
How's that different from TCG_MO_ALL?
> +} TCGBar;
> +
> /* Conditions. Note that these are laid out for easy manipulation by
> the functions below:
> bit 0 is used for inverting;
Kind regards,
Sergey
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2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 01/14] Introduce TCGOpcode for memory barrier Pranith Kumar
2016-06-20 21:21 ` Sergey Fedorov [this message]
2016-06-21 14:52 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 15:09 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-21 18:06 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-22 15:50 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-21 7:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-21 18:04 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-21 18:09 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 18:23 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-21 19:40 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 02/14] tcg/i386: Add support for fence Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 7:24 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-22 16:25 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-22 16:49 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-22 18:18 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [RFC v3 PATCH 03/14] tcg/aarch64: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-23 16:18 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-23 16:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Bennée
2016-06-23 16:50 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-23 16:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Henderson
2016-06-23 19:58 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-23 19:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Bennée
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [RFC v3 PATCH 04/14] tcg/arm: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-23 16:30 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-23 16:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Bennée
2016-06-23 16:49 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-23 16:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Richard Henderson
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 05/14] tcg/ia64: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 06/14] tcg/mips: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 07/14] tcg/ppc: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-22 19:50 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-22 20:21 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-22 20:27 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-23 14:42 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 08/14] tcg/s390: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 7:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 09/14] tcg/sparc: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-22 19:56 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 10/14] tcg/tci: " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-22 19:57 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-22 20:25 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-22 20:28 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [RFC v3 PATCH 11/14] target-arm: Generate fences in ARMv7 frontend Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 12/14] target-alpha: Generate fence op Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [RFC v3 PATCH 13/14] aarch64: Generate fences for aarch64 Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Pranith Kumar
2016-06-24 16:17 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-24 16:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Bennée
2016-06-18 4:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 14/14] target-i386: Generate fences for x86 Pranith Kumar
2016-06-18 5:48 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-20 15:05 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 7:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-21 15:57 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-21 16:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-21 16:23 ` Richard Henderson
2016-06-21 16:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-21 17:28 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 17:54 ` Peter Maydell
2016-06-21 18:03 ` Pranith Kumar
2016-06-21 18:25 ` Alex Bennée
2016-06-22 11:18 ` Sergey Fedorov
2016-06-18 4:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v3 PATCH 00/14] tcg: Add fence gen support Pranith Kumar
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