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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com>
Cc: kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
	Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>,
	Chase Conklin <chase.conklin@arm.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>,
	Darren Hart <darren@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Jintack Lim <jintack@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Miguel Luis <miguel.luis@oracle.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	D Scott Phillips <scott@os.amperecomputing.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 17/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Support multiple nested Stage-2 mmu structures
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 08:58:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <868r4d94c9.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3b51d760-fd32-41b7-b142-5974fdf3e90e@os.amperecomputing.com>

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 08:14:32 +0000,
Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Marc,
> 
> On 23-01-2024 07:56 pm, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > Hi Ganapatrao,
> > 
> > On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 09:55:32 +0000,
> > Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi Marc,
> >> 
> >>> +void kvm_vcpu_load_hw_mmu(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> >>> +{
> >>> +	if (is_hyp_ctxt(vcpu)) {
> >>> +		vcpu->arch.hw_mmu = &vcpu->kvm->arch.mmu;
> >>> +	} else {
> >>> +		write_lock(&vcpu->kvm->mmu_lock);
> >>> +		vcpu->arch.hw_mmu = get_s2_mmu_nested(vcpu);
> >>> +		write_unlock(&vcpu->kvm->mmu_lock);
> >>> +	}
> >> 
> >> Due to race, there is a non-existing L2's mmu table is getting loaded
> >> for some of vCPU while booting L1(noticed with L1 boot using large
> >> number of vCPUs). This is happening since at the early stage the
> >> e2h(hyp-context) is not set and trap to eret of L1 boot-strap code
> >> resulting in context switch as if it is returning to L2(guest enter)
> >> and loading not initialized mmu table on those vCPUs resulting in
> >> unrecoverable traps and aborts.
> > 
> > I'm not sure I understand the problem you're describing here.
> > 
> 
> IIUC, When the S2 fault happens, the faulted vCPU gets the pages from
> qemu process and maps in S2 and copies the code to allocated
> memory. Mean while other vCPUs which are in race to come online, when
> they switches over to dummy S2 finds the mapping and returns to L1 and
> subsequent execution does not fault instead fetches from memory where
> no code exists yet(for some) and generates stage 1 instruction abort
> and jumps to abort handler and even there is no code exist and keeps
> aborting. This is happening on random vCPUs(no pattern).

Why is that any different from the way we handle faults in the
non-nested case? If there is a case where we can map the PTE at S2
before the data is available, this is a generic bug that can trigger
irrespective of NV.

> 
> > What is the race exactly? Why isn't the shadow S2 good enough? Not
> > having HCR_EL2.VM set doesn't mean we can use the same S2, as the TLBs
> > are tagged by a different VMID, so staying on the canonical S2 seems
> > wrong.
> 
> IMO, it is unnecessary to switch-over for first ERET while L1 is
> booting and repeat the faults and page allocation which is anyway
> dummy once L1 switches to E2H.

It is mandated by the architecture. EL1 is, by definition, a different
translation regime from EL2. So we *must* have a different S2, because
that defines the boundaries of TLB creation and invalidation. The
fact that these are the same pages is totally irrelevant.

> Let L1 use its S2 always which is created by L0. Even we should
> consider avoiding the entry created for L1 in array(first entry in the
> array) of S2-MMUs and avoid unnecessary iteration/lookup while unmap
> of NestedVMs.

I'm sorry, but this is just wrong. You are merging the EL1 and EL2
translation regimes, which is not acceptable.

> I am anticipating this unwanted switch-over wont happen when we have
> NV2 only support in V12?

V11 is already NV2 only, so I really don't get what you mean here.
Everything stays the same, and there is nothing to change here.

What you describe looks like a terrible bug somewhere on the
page-fault path that has the potential to impact non-NV, and I'd like
to focus on that.

I've been booting my L1 with a fairly large number of vcpus (32 vcpu
for 6 physical CPUs), and I don't see this.

Since you seem to have a way to trigger it on your HW, can you please
pinpoint the situation where we map the page without having the
corresponding data?

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com>
Cc: kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
	Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>,
	Chase Conklin <chase.conklin@arm.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@arm.com>,
	Darren Hart <darren@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Jintack Lim <jintack@cs.columbia.edu>,
	Russell King <rmk+kernel@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Miguel Luis <miguel.luis@oracle.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	D Scott Phillips <scott@os.amperecomputing.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 17/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Support multiple nested Stage-2 mmu structures
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 08:58:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <868r4d94c9.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3b51d760-fd32-41b7-b142-5974fdf3e90e@os.amperecomputing.com>

On Thu, 25 Jan 2024 08:14:32 +0000,
Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Marc,
> 
> On 23-01-2024 07:56 pm, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> > Hi Ganapatrao,
> > 
> > On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 09:55:32 +0000,
> > Ganapatrao Kulkarni <gankulkarni@os.amperecomputing.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hi Marc,
> >> 
> >>> +void kvm_vcpu_load_hw_mmu(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> >>> +{
> >>> +	if (is_hyp_ctxt(vcpu)) {
> >>> +		vcpu->arch.hw_mmu = &vcpu->kvm->arch.mmu;
> >>> +	} else {
> >>> +		write_lock(&vcpu->kvm->mmu_lock);
> >>> +		vcpu->arch.hw_mmu = get_s2_mmu_nested(vcpu);
> >>> +		write_unlock(&vcpu->kvm->mmu_lock);
> >>> +	}
> >> 
> >> Due to race, there is a non-existing L2's mmu table is getting loaded
> >> for some of vCPU while booting L1(noticed with L1 boot using large
> >> number of vCPUs). This is happening since at the early stage the
> >> e2h(hyp-context) is not set and trap to eret of L1 boot-strap code
> >> resulting in context switch as if it is returning to L2(guest enter)
> >> and loading not initialized mmu table on those vCPUs resulting in
> >> unrecoverable traps and aborts.
> > 
> > I'm not sure I understand the problem you're describing here.
> > 
> 
> IIUC, When the S2 fault happens, the faulted vCPU gets the pages from
> qemu process and maps in S2 and copies the code to allocated
> memory. Mean while other vCPUs which are in race to come online, when
> they switches over to dummy S2 finds the mapping and returns to L1 and
> subsequent execution does not fault instead fetches from memory where
> no code exists yet(for some) and generates stage 1 instruction abort
> and jumps to abort handler and even there is no code exist and keeps
> aborting. This is happening on random vCPUs(no pattern).

Why is that any different from the way we handle faults in the
non-nested case? If there is a case where we can map the PTE at S2
before the data is available, this is a generic bug that can trigger
irrespective of NV.

> 
> > What is the race exactly? Why isn't the shadow S2 good enough? Not
> > having HCR_EL2.VM set doesn't mean we can use the same S2, as the TLBs
> > are tagged by a different VMID, so staying on the canonical S2 seems
> > wrong.
> 
> IMO, it is unnecessary to switch-over for first ERET while L1 is
> booting and repeat the faults and page allocation which is anyway
> dummy once L1 switches to E2H.

It is mandated by the architecture. EL1 is, by definition, a different
translation regime from EL2. So we *must* have a different S2, because
that defines the boundaries of TLB creation and invalidation. The
fact that these are the same pages is totally irrelevant.

> Let L1 use its S2 always which is created by L0. Even we should
> consider avoiding the entry created for L1 in array(first entry in the
> array) of S2-MMUs and avoid unnecessary iteration/lookup while unmap
> of NestedVMs.

I'm sorry, but this is just wrong. You are merging the EL1 and EL2
translation regimes, which is not acceptable.

> I am anticipating this unwanted switch-over wont happen when we have
> NV2 only support in V12?

V11 is already NV2 only, so I really don't get what you mean here.
Everything stays the same, and there is nothing to change here.

What you describe looks like a terrible bug somewhere on the
page-fault path that has the potential to impact non-NV, and I'd like
to focus on that.

I've been booting my L1 with a fairly large number of vcpus (32 vcpu
for 6 physical CPUs), and I don't see this.

Since you seem to have a way to trigger it on your HW, can you please
pinpoint the situation where we map the page without having the
corresponding data?

Thanks,

	M.

-- 
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

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Thread overview: 158+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-20 13:09 [PATCH v11 00/43] KVM: arm64: Nested Virtualization support (FEAT_NV2 only) Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 01/43] arm64: cpufeatures: Restrict NV support to FEAT_NV2 Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-21  9:07   ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-21  9:07     ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-21  9:27     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-21  9:27       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 02/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Hoist vcpu_has_nv() into is_hyp_ctxt() Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 03/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Compute NV view of idregs as a one-off Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 04/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Drop EL12 register traps that are redirected to VNCR Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 05/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Add non-VHE-EL2->EL1 translation helpers Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 06/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Add include containing the VNCR_EL2 offsets Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 07/43] KVM: arm64: Introduce a bad_trap() primitive for unexpected trap handling Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 08/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Add EL2_REG_VNCR()/EL2_REG_REDIR() sysreg helpers Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 09/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Map VNCR-capable registers to a separate page Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 10/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Handle virtual EL2 registers in vcpu_read/write_sys_reg() Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 11/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Handle HCR_EL2.E2H specially Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 12/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Handle CNTHCTL_EL2 specially Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 13/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Save/Restore vEL2 sysregs Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 14/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Respect virtual HCR_EL2.TWX setting Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09 ` [PATCH v11 15/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Respect virtual CPTR_EL2.{TFP,FPEN} settings Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 16/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Configure HCR_EL2 for FEAT_NV2 Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 17/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Support multiple nested Stage-2 mmu structures Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2024-01-23  9:55   ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-01-23  9:55     ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-01-23 14:26     ` Marc Zyngier
2024-01-23 14:26       ` Marc Zyngier
2024-01-25  8:14       ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-01-25  8:14         ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-01-25  8:58         ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2024-01-25  8:58           ` Marc Zyngier
2024-01-31  9:39           ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-01-31  9:39             ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2024-01-31 13:50             ` Marc Zyngier
2024-01-31 13:50               ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 18/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Implement nested Stage-2 page table walk logic Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 19/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Handle shadow stage 2 page faults Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2024-01-17 14:53   ` Joey Gouly
2024-01-17 14:53     ` Joey Gouly
2024-01-17 15:53     ` Marc Zyngier
2024-01-17 15:53       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 20/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Restrict S2 RD/WR permissions to match the guest's Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 21/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Unmap/flush shadow stage 2 page tables Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 22/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Set a handler for the system instruction traps Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 23/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Trap and emulate AT instructions from virtual EL2 Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 24/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Trap and emulate TLBI " Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 25/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Hide RAS from nested guests Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 26/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Add handling of EL2-specific timer registers Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 27/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Sync nested timer state with FEAT_NV2 Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 28/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Publish emulated timer interrupt state in the in-memory state Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 29/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Load timer before the GIC Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 30/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Nested GICv3 Support Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 31/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Don't block in WFI from nested state Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 32/43] KVM: arm64: nv: vgic: Allow userland to set VGIC maintenance IRQ Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 33/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Fold GICv3 host trapping requirements into guest setup Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 34/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Deal with broken VGIC on maintenance interrupt delivery Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 35/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Add handling of FEAT_TTL TLB invalidation Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 36/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Invalidate TLBs based on shadow S2 TTL-like information Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 37/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Tag shadow S2 entries with nested level Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 38/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Allocate VNCR page when required Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 39/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Fast-track 'InHost' exception returns Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 40/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Fast-track EL1 TLBIs for VHE guests Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 41/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Use FEAT_ECV to trap access to EL0 timers Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 42/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Accelerate EL0 timer read accesses when FEAT_ECV is on Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10 ` [PATCH v11 43/43] KVM: arm64: nv: Allow userspace to request KVM_ARM_VCPU_NESTED_VIRT Marc Zyngier
2023-11-20 13:10   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-21  8:51 ` [PATCH v11 00/43] KVM: arm64: Nested Virtualization support (FEAT_NV2 only) Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-21  8:51   ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-21  9:08   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-21  9:08     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-21  9:26     ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-21  9:26       ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-21  9:41       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-21  9:41         ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-22 11:10         ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-22 11:10           ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-22 11:39           ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-22 11:39             ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-21 16:49 ` Miguel Luis
2023-11-21 16:49   ` Miguel Luis
2023-11-21 19:02   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-21 19:02     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-23 16:21     ` Miguel Luis
2023-11-23 16:21       ` Miguel Luis
2023-11-23 16:44       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-23 16:44         ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-24  9:50         ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-24  9:50           ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-24 10:19           ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-24 10:19             ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-24 12:34             ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-24 12:34               ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-24 12:51               ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-24 12:51                 ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-24 13:22                 ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-24 13:22                   ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-24 14:32                   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-24 14:32                     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-27  7:26                     ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-27  7:26                       ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-27  9:22                       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-27  9:22                         ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-27 10:59                         ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-27 10:59                           ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-27 11:45                           ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-27 11:45                             ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-27 12:18                             ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-27 12:18                               ` Ganapatrao Kulkarni
2023-11-27 13:57                               ` Marc Zyngier
2023-11-27 13:57                                 ` Marc Zyngier
2023-12-18 12:39 ` Marc Zyngier
2023-12-18 12:39   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-12-18 19:51   ` Oliver Upton
2023-12-18 19:51     ` Oliver Upton
2023-12-19 10:32 ` (subset) " Marc Zyngier
2023-12-19 10:32   ` Marc Zyngier

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