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From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: Santhosh Kumar K <s-k6@ti.com>
Cc: <broonie@kernel.org>,  <robh@kernel.org>,  <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	<conor+dt@kernel.org>,  <richard@nod.at>,  <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	<tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,  <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	 <mwalle@kernel.org>, <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
	 <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>, <praneeth@ti.com>,
	 <u-kumar1@ti.com>,  <p-mantena@ti.com>, <a-dutta@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: restrict PHY frequency to tuned operations
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 09:21:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874inlxde0.fsf@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fdcb19ff-c949-4538-8819-88720e514f04@ti.com> (Santhosh Kumar K.'s message of "Sat, 7 Feb 2026 00:57:04 +0530")

On 07/02/2026 at 00:57:04 +0530, Santhosh Kumar K <s-k6@ti.com> wrote:

> On 05/02/26 23:17, Miquel Raynal wrote:
>> Hi Santhosh,
>> 
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * PHY tuning allows high-frequency operation only for calibrated
>>> +	 * commands. Uncalibrated operations use safe non-PHY frequency to
>>> +	 * avoid timing violations.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	if (cqspi->ddata->execute_tuning && f_pdata->use_phy &&
>>> +	    (cqspi_op_matches_tuned(op, &f_pdata->phy_read_op) ||
>>> +	     cqspi_op_matches_tuned(op, &f_pdata->phy_write_op))) {
>>> +		cqspi_configure(f_pdata, op->max_freq);
>>> +	} else if (cqspi->ddata->execute_tuning) {
>>> +		/* Use safe frequency for untuned operations */
>>> +		cqspi_configure(f_pdata, f_pdata->non_phy_clk_rate);
>>> +	} else {
>>> +		/* No tuning support, always use requested frequency */
>>> +		cqspi_configure(f_pdata, op->max_freq);
>>> +	}
>> Shouldn't we handle this at the core level? We know what kind of
>> operation pattern we provided, so it is easy to set the correct
>> frequency in the operation structure.
>> Can you please make this happen? Perhaps you can return the operation
>> frequency once the calibration is successful (in the read and write op
>> templates maybe?) so this can be picked up by the core and used for the
>> following operations. This way the controller driver no longer needs to
>> check if the operation has been tuned or not, it can just look at the
>> frequency. When using the highest frequency, PHY tuning must be
>> used/enabled, otherwise not.
>
> No, Miquel, this may not be correct. There can be cases where an
> operation does not require tuning but still can run at maximum
> frequency (166 MHz, for instance).

This is currently not the case. Currently you tune for one or two ops
(read/write) and you enable PHY tuning only on these. Do you plan on
adding such a feature? If not, I would not bother with this now.

> In such scenarios, simply setting
> op->max_freq to the maximum frequency value and deciding whether to
> enable tuning based on an op->max_freq comparison would not be
> sufficient.

If there are such cases, can they be listed? I am sorry but I fail to
see where this would not work. Any examples to share?

Thanks,
Miquèl

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From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: Santhosh Kumar K <s-k6@ti.com>
Cc: <broonie@kernel.org>,  <robh@kernel.org>,  <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	<conor+dt@kernel.org>,  <richard@nod.at>,  <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	<tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,  <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	 <mwalle@kernel.org>, <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
	 <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>, <praneeth@ti.com>,
	 <u-kumar1@ti.com>,  <p-mantena@ti.com>, <a-dutta@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: restrict PHY frequency to tuned operations
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 09:21:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <874inlxde0.fsf@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fdcb19ff-c949-4538-8819-88720e514f04@ti.com> (Santhosh Kumar K.'s message of "Sat, 7 Feb 2026 00:57:04 +0530")

On 07/02/2026 at 00:57:04 +0530, Santhosh Kumar K <s-k6@ti.com> wrote:

> On 05/02/26 23:17, Miquel Raynal wrote:
>> Hi Santhosh,
>> 
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * PHY tuning allows high-frequency operation only for calibrated
>>> +	 * commands. Uncalibrated operations use safe non-PHY frequency to
>>> +	 * avoid timing violations.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	if (cqspi->ddata->execute_tuning && f_pdata->use_phy &&
>>> +	    (cqspi_op_matches_tuned(op, &f_pdata->phy_read_op) ||
>>> +	     cqspi_op_matches_tuned(op, &f_pdata->phy_write_op))) {
>>> +		cqspi_configure(f_pdata, op->max_freq);
>>> +	} else if (cqspi->ddata->execute_tuning) {
>>> +		/* Use safe frequency for untuned operations */
>>> +		cqspi_configure(f_pdata, f_pdata->non_phy_clk_rate);
>>> +	} else {
>>> +		/* No tuning support, always use requested frequency */
>>> +		cqspi_configure(f_pdata, op->max_freq);
>>> +	}
>> Shouldn't we handle this at the core level? We know what kind of
>> operation pattern we provided, so it is easy to set the correct
>> frequency in the operation structure.
>> Can you please make this happen? Perhaps you can return the operation
>> frequency once the calibration is successful (in the read and write op
>> templates maybe?) so this can be picked up by the core and used for the
>> following operations. This way the controller driver no longer needs to
>> check if the operation has been tuned or not, it can just look at the
>> frequency. When using the highest frequency, PHY tuning must be
>> used/enabled, otherwise not.
>
> No, Miquel, this may not be correct. There can be cases where an
> operation does not require tuning but still can run at maximum
> frequency (166 MHz, for instance).

This is currently not the case. Currently you tune for one or two ops
(read/write) and you enable PHY tuning only on these. Do you plan on
adding such a feature? If not, I would not bother with this now.

> In such scenarios, simply setting
> op->max_freq to the maximum frequency value and deciding whether to
> enable tuning based on an op->max_freq comparison would not be
> sufficient.

If there are such cases, can they be listed? I am sorry but I fail to
see where this would not work. Any examples to share?

Thanks,
Miquèl

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-13  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-13 14:16 [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning support Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/12] spi: dt-bindings: add spi-has-dqs property Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16   ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-04 10:46   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-04 10:46     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 17:46     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:46       ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 18:06       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 18:06         ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/12] spi: spi-mem: add controller tuning support Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16   ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/12] mtd: spinand: perform controller tuning during probe Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16   ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:35   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 17:35     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-06 19:23     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-06 19:23       ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/12] mtd: spi-nor: extract read operation setup into helper Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16   ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/12] mtd: spi-nor: perform controller tuning during probe Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16   ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: move cqspi_readdata_capture earlier Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16   ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:35   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 17:35     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: add DQS support to read data capture Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16   ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:35   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 17:35     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: read 'has-dqs' DT property Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16   ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:35   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 17:35     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-19 12:14     ` Michael Walle
2026-02-19 12:14       ` Michael Walle
2026-02-20  8:21       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-20  8:21         ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning infrastructure Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16   ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:39   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 17:39     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-06 19:25     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-06 19:25       ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-13  8:18       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-13  8:18         ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-18 18:07         ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-18 18:07           ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-19 10:30           ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-19 10:30             ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-09  9:48   ` Michael Walle
2026-02-09  9:48     ` Michael Walle
2026-02-12 10:50     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-12 10:50       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-12 11:14       ` Michael Walle
2026-02-12 11:14         ` Michael Walle
2026-02-12 12:55         ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-12 12:55           ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-18 18:07           ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-18 18:07             ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-19  8:33             ` Michael Walle
2026-02-19  8:33               ` Michael Walle
2026-02-19 10:34             ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-19 10:34               ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: implement PHY tuning algorithm Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16   ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:42   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 17:42     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: restrict PHY frequency to tuned operations Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16   ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:47   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 17:47     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-06 19:27     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-06 19:27       ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-13  8:21       ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2026-02-13  8:21         ` Miquel Raynal
2026-03-17 15:17         ` Miquel Raynal
2026-03-17 15:17           ` Miquel Raynal
2026-03-30 19:56           ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-03-30 19:56             ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: enable PHY for direct reads and writes Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16   ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:51   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 17:51     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-04 10:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning support Miquel Raynal
2026-02-04 10:29   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 15:48   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 15:48     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-06 19:28     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-06 19:28       ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-13  9:01       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-13  9:01         ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-18 18:08         ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-18 18:08           ` Santhosh Kumar K

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