From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: kernel-team@android.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/24] KVM: arm64: Introduce pKVM shadow state at EL2
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 10:25:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a694yw2w.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YtbXtI/lEnNL7fHQ@google.com>
On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 17:11:32 +0100,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> Honestly, I think pKVM is simply being too cute in picking names.
I don't know what you mean by "cute" here, but I assume this is not
exactly a flattering qualifier.
> And not just for "shadow", e.g. IMO the flush/sync terminology in
> patch 24 is also unnecessarily cute. Instead of coming up with
> clever names, just be explicit in what the code is doing.
> E.g. something like:
>
> flush_shadow_state() => sync_host_to_pkvm_vcpu()
> sync_shadow_state() => sync_pkvm_to_host_vcpu()
As much as I like bikesheding, this isn't going to happen. We have had
the sync/flush duality since day one, we have a lot of code based
around this naming, and departing from it seems counter productive.
M.
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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
kernel-team@android.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/24] KVM: arm64: Introduce pKVM shadow state at EL2
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 10:25:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a694yw2w.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YtbXtI/lEnNL7fHQ@google.com>
On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 17:11:32 +0100,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> Honestly, I think pKVM is simply being too cute in picking names.
I don't know what you mean by "cute" here, but I assume this is not
exactly a flattering qualifier.
> And not just for "shadow", e.g. IMO the flush/sync terminology in
> patch 24 is also unnecessarily cute. Instead of coming up with
> clever names, just be explicit in what the code is doing.
> E.g. something like:
>
> flush_shadow_state() => sync_host_to_pkvm_vcpu()
> sync_shadow_state() => sync_pkvm_to_host_vcpu()
As much as I like bikesheding, this isn't going to happen. We have had
the sync/flush duality since day one, we have a lot of code based
around this naming, and departing from it seems counter productive.
M.
--
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Chao Peng <chao.p.peng@linux.intel.com>,
Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>,
kernel-team@android.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/24] KVM: arm64: Introduce pKVM shadow state at EL2
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2022 10:25:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a694yw2w.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YtbXtI/lEnNL7fHQ@google.com>
On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 17:11:32 +0100,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> Honestly, I think pKVM is simply being too cute in picking names.
I don't know what you mean by "cute" here, but I assume this is not
exactly a flattering qualifier.
> And not just for "shadow", e.g. IMO the flush/sync terminology in
> patch 24 is also unnecessarily cute. Instead of coming up with
> clever names, just be explicit in what the code is doing.
> E.g. something like:
>
> flush_shadow_state() => sync_host_to_pkvm_vcpu()
> sync_shadow_state() => sync_pkvm_to_host_vcpu()
As much as I like bikesheding, this isn't going to happen. We have had
the sync/flush duality since day one, we have a lot of code based
around this naming, and departing from it seems counter productive.
M.
--
Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-07-20 9:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-06-30 13:57 [PATCH v2 00/24] KVM: arm64: Introduce pKVM shadow state at EL2 Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 01/24] KVM: arm64: Move hyp refcount manipulation helpers Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 02/24] KVM: arm64: Allow non-coalescable pages in a hyp_pool Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 03/24] KVM: arm64: Add flags to struct hyp_page Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-18 10:54 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-18 10:54 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-18 10:54 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-18 10:57 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-18 10:57 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-18 10:57 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 04/24] KVM: arm64: Back hyp_vmemmap for all of memory Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 05/24] KVM: arm64: Make hyp stage-1 refcnt correct on the whole range Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 06/24] KVM: arm64: Unify identifiers used to distinguish host and hypervisor Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-20 15:11 ` Oliver Upton
2022-07-20 15:11 ` Oliver Upton
2022-07-20 15:11 ` Oliver Upton
2022-07-20 18:14 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-20 18:14 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-20 18:14 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-29 19:28 ` Oliver Upton
2022-07-29 19:28 ` Oliver Upton
2022-07-29 19:28 ` Oliver Upton
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 07/24] KVM: arm64: Implement do_donate() helper for donating memory Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 08/24] KVM: arm64: Prevent the donation of no-map pages Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 09/24] KVM: arm64: Add helpers to pin memory shared with hyp Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 10/24] KVM: arm64: Include asm/kvm_mmu.h in nvhe/mem_protect.h Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 11/24] KVM: arm64: Add hyp_spinlock_t static initializer Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 12/24] KVM: arm64: Introduce shadow VM state at EL2 Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-18 18:40 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-18 18:40 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-18 18:40 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-19 9:41 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-19 9:41 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-19 9:41 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-20 18:20 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-20 18:20 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-20 18:20 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 13/24] KVM: arm64: Instantiate VM shadow data from EL1 Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 14/24] KVM: arm64: Add pcpu fixmap infrastructure at EL2 Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-19 13:30 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-19 13:30 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-19 13:30 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-19 14:09 ` Quentin Perret
2022-07-19 14:09 ` Quentin Perret
2022-07-19 14:09 ` Quentin Perret
2022-07-19 14:10 ` Quentin Perret
2022-07-19 14:10 ` Quentin Perret
2022-07-19 14:10 ` Quentin Perret
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 15/24] KVM: arm64: Initialise hyp symbols regardless of pKVM Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 16/24] KVM: arm64: Provide I-cache invalidation by VA at EL2 Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 17/24] KVM: arm64: Add generic hyp_memcache helpers Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 18/24] KVM: arm64: Instantiate guest stage-2 page-tables at EL2 Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-19 13:32 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-19 13:32 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-19 13:32 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-20 18:26 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-20 18:26 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-20 18:26 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 19/24] KVM: arm64: Return guest memory from EL2 via dedicated teardown memcache Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 20/24] KVM: arm64: Unmap kvm_arm_hyp_percpu_base from the host Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 21/24] KVM: arm64: Maintain a copy of 'kvm_arm_vmid_bits' at EL2 Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 22/24] KVM: arm64: Explicitly map kvm_vgic_global_state " Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [PATCH v2 23/24] KVM: arm64: Don't map host sections in pkvm Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` [RFC PATCH v2 24/24] KVM: arm64: Use the shadow vCPU structure in handle___kvm_vcpu_run() Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-06-30 13:57 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-06 19:17 ` [PATCH v2 00/24] KVM: arm64: Introduce pKVM shadow state at EL2 Sean Christopherson
2022-07-06 19:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-06 19:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-08 16:23 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-08 16:23 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-08 16:23 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-19 16:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-19 16:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-19 16:11 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-20 9:25 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2022-07-20 9:25 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-20 9:25 ` Marc Zyngier
2022-07-20 18:48 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-20 18:48 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-20 18:48 ` Will Deacon
2022-07-20 21:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-20 21:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-20 21:17 ` Sean Christopherson
2022-07-19 14:24 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-19 14:24 ` Vincent Donnefort
2022-07-19 14:24 ` Vincent Donnefort
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