From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@qca.qualcomm.com>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com>,
"ath10k@lists.infradead.org" <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/8] ath10k: provide firmware crash info via debugfs
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:19:40 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ha175jlv.fsf@kamboji.qca.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53F49DDC.1030300@candelatech.com> (Ben Greear's message of "Wed, 20 Aug 2014 06:08:44 -0700")
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> writes:
> On 08/20/2014 12:29 AM, Kalle Valo wrote:
>> Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> writes:
>>
>>>>> + /* Gather dbg-log */ + dump_tlv = (struct ath10k_tlv_dump_data
>>>>> *)(buf + sofar); + dump_tlv->type =
>>>>> cpu_to_le32(ATH10K_FW_CRASH_DUMP_DBGLOG); + dump_tlv->tlv_len =
>>>>> cpu_to_le32(sizeof(crash_data->dbglog_entry_data));
>>>> Hmm should this really be sizeof()? Not next_idx (which
>>>> effectively defines number of bytes of the dbglog)?
>>> I haven't tried decoding this yet, but we may need to know the
>>> next_idx to decode this properly.
>> I really don't like the idea of having untested code in ath10k.
>> Buggy code is okay (preferably document the known bugs when
>> submitting code), but untested code is not.
>
> It would be quite a waste of time to keep re-writing a user-space dump
> tool while the patch set is in this much churn, I think.
> It's not like ath10k is going to blow up, but maybe the decode is less
> useful in that we cannot actually get a useful debuglog decode until
> the problem is resolved. We get zero firmware dbglog messages
> currently, so nothing is lost.
Of course ath10k won't blow up, but every patch and every line of code
increases the maintenance cost. For example, if I had known that the
dbglog dump in your patchset doesn't work at all, I would have dropped
it immediately and saved a lot of time of everyone's time, especially
mine.
So next time you send me untested code PLEASE clearly mention that. I
assume that the developer has tested the submitted code well enough that
it really works. Hoping it to work is not enough! Unless you are
Johannes, Linus or Davem :)
--
Kalle Valo
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From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@qca.qualcomm.com>
To: Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com>
Cc: Michal Kazior <michal.kazior@tieto.com>,
"ath10k@lists.infradead.org" <ath10k@lists.infradead.org>,
linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 2/8] ath10k: provide firmware crash info via debugfs
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:19:40 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ha175jlv.fsf@kamboji.qca.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53F49DDC.1030300@candelatech.com> (Ben Greear's message of "Wed, 20 Aug 2014 06:08:44 -0700")
Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> writes:
> On 08/20/2014 12:29 AM, Kalle Valo wrote:
>> Ben Greear <greearb@candelatech.com> writes:
>>
>>>>> + /* Gather dbg-log */ + dump_tlv = (struct ath10k_tlv_dump_data
>>>>> *)(buf + sofar); + dump_tlv->type =
>>>>> cpu_to_le32(ATH10K_FW_CRASH_DUMP_DBGLOG); + dump_tlv->tlv_len =
>>>>> cpu_to_le32(sizeof(crash_data->dbglog_entry_data));
>>>> Hmm should this really be sizeof()? Not next_idx (which
>>>> effectively defines number of bytes of the dbglog)?
>>> I haven't tried decoding this yet, but we may need to know the
>>> next_idx to decode this properly.
>> I really don't like the idea of having untested code in ath10k.
>> Buggy code is okay (preferably document the known bugs when
>> submitting code), but untested code is not.
>
> It would be quite a waste of time to keep re-writing a user-space dump
> tool while the patch set is in this much churn, I think.
> It's not like ath10k is going to blow up, but maybe the decode is less
> useful in that we cannot actually get a useful debuglog decode until
> the problem is resolved. We get zero firmware dbglog messages
> currently, so nothing is lost.
Of course ath10k won't blow up, but every patch and every line of code
increases the maintenance cost. For example, if I had known that the
dbglog dump in your patchset doesn't work at all, I would have dropped
it immediately and saved a lot of time of everyone's time, especially
mine.
So next time you send me untested code PLEASE clearly mention that. I
assume that the developer has tested the submitted code well enough that
it really works. Hoping it to work is not enough! Unless you are
Johannes, Linus or Davem :)
--
Kalle Valo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-08-20 14:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-19 8:22 [PATCH v7 0/8] ath10k: firmware crash dump Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 8:22 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 8:22 ` [PATCH v7 1/8] ath10k: add ath10k_pci_diag_* helpers Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 8:22 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 8:22 ` [PATCH v7 2/8] ath10k: provide firmware crash info via debugfs Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 8:22 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 9:33 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-19 9:33 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-19 15:25 ` Ben Greear
2014-08-19 15:25 ` Ben Greear
2014-08-19 16:05 ` Ben Greear
2014-08-19 16:05 ` Ben Greear
2014-08-20 7:36 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-20 7:36 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-20 6:28 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-20 6:28 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-20 6:48 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-20 6:48 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-20 6:56 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-20 6:56 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-20 13:13 ` Ben Greear
2014-08-20 13:13 ` Ben Greear
2014-08-20 7:29 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-20 7:29 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-20 13:08 ` Ben Greear
2014-08-20 13:08 ` Ben Greear
2014-08-20 14:19 ` Kalle Valo [this message]
2014-08-20 14:19 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-20 14:52 ` Ben Greear
2014-08-20 14:52 ` Ben Greear
2014-08-19 8:23 ` [PATCH v7 3/8] ath10k: save firmware debug log messages Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 8:23 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 9:39 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-19 9:39 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-19 9:44 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-19 9:44 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-19 15:16 ` Ben Greear
2014-08-19 15:16 ` Ben Greear
2014-08-19 8:23 ` [PATCH v7 4/8] ath10k: save firmware stack upon firmware crash Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 8:23 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 9:37 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-19 9:37 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-19 8:23 ` [PATCH v7 5/8] ath10k: dump exception stack contents on " Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 8:23 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 9:38 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-19 9:38 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-19 8:23 ` [PATCH v7 6/8] ath10k: save firmware RAM and ROM BSS sections on crash Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 8:23 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 9:39 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-19 9:39 ` Michal Kazior
2014-08-19 8:23 ` [PATCH v7 7/8] ath10k: rename ath10k_pci_hif_dump_area() to ath10k_pci_fw_crashed_dump() Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 8:23 ` Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 8:23 ` [PATCH v7 8/8] ath10k: print more driver info when firmware crashes Kalle Valo
2014-08-19 8:23 ` Kalle Valo
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