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From: arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org (Arnaud Patard (Rtp))
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 5/6] ARM: dove: Remove watchdog from DT
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:48:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87haqmgw6n.fsf@lebrac.rtp-net.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201209251120.54255.arnd@arndb.de> (Arnd Bergmann's message of "Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:20:53 +0000")

Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> writes:

Hi,

> On Tuesday 25 September 2012, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:14:39PM +0200, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
>> > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:46:10 +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>> > 
>> > > I principle, i agree. However, i'm not too sure about mach-orion5x &
>> > > mach-mv78xx0. orion5x has probably been broken since -rc1 was released
>> > > and nobody noticed. In the same time, we got around 5 people
>> > > independently reporting kirkwood was broken. We have not received any
>> > > new boards for orion5x in the time i've been looking at Orion
>> > > platforms. mv78xx0 only has one board which is not a Marvell reference
>> > > design. So im tempted to not spend any effort moving orion5x or
>> > > mv78xx0 to DT unless these actually hinder the effort of moving the
>> > > others to DT.  What may make sense is to flatten mv78xx0 and orion5x
>> > > into plat-orion and then just watch the bit-rot happen.
>> > 
>> > I'll try to see if I can get people from LaCie to test mach-orion5x as
>> > I have a few contacts there, and I'll contact Marvell to see if they can
>> > still provide Orion-based platforms.
>> 
>> Marvell supplied my one one reference platform. So i can do some
>> testing that the basic infrastructure works.
>> 
>> But the problem with converting to DT is that there is a lot of
>> brainless monkey work needed per supported board, and its very easy to
>> make a typo. So each board converted to DT needs testing. I don't know
>> if we can find testers for all the boards. But should we throw out
>> working boards just because we cannot find somebody to test the DT
>> version?
>
> We can throw them out in a staged process. I think the first step should
> be ensuring that the platform support works on one (or better a few)
> board reliably, and merge support for that into mach-mvebu but leave
> the other ~20 board files in mach-orion5x without spending too much work
> on them. Whether that means pinctrl support for mach-orion5x is a something
> you need to figure out.
>
> The next step would be to label mach-orion5x as deprecated in Kconfig for
> a release and change the help text so it tells people to move to mach-mvebu
> and submit dts files.
>

You seem to imply that every user of mach-orion5x can write a dts
file. Please don't forget that afaik some users are using the kernel
provided by their $distribution, so if it gets broken it may be noticed
months later. Moreover, this kind of user won't notice the Kconfig info
as all they'll get is a binary.

> After that, we can leave mach-orion5x in the kernel for another release but
> completely disable the option to enable it in Kconfig as a last warning.
> This means anyone who is using it will have to move on or talk to us about
> extending the transition period.
>
> Finally, we remove mach-orion5x. Hopefully by that time, everyone who is
> using it will have contributed a dts file for it.
>
>> > Regarding mv78xx0, I agree that I'm not sure what to do. The number of
>> > supported platforms is small. Should we simply mark mv78xx0 deprecated
>> > now, wait a few release cycles to see if anyone shows up, and see what
>> > to do at this point?
>
> We should let Sebastien Requiem comment. He is the only person outside of
> Marvell who has contributed a board file for mv78xx0. If he's interested in
> keeping it alive, he's hopefully also able to find the time to test the
> devicetree version of that platform in mach-mvebu. Similarly, if anyone
> has the MASA reference design, that one could be moved over to mach-mvebu
> first.

There are some mv78xx0 (BP) dev boards used in Debian infrastructure, so
at least, would nice to not break mv78xx0 support.

Arnaud

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Arnaud Patard (Rtp) <arnaud.patard@rtp-net.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	Sebastien Requiem <sebastien@kolios.dk>,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Gregory Clement <gregory.clement@free-electrons.com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] ARM: dove: Remove watchdog from DT
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 13:48:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87haqmgw6n.fsf@lebrac.rtp-net.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201209251120.54255.arnd@arndb.de> (Arnd Bergmann's message of "Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:20:53 +0000")

Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> writes:

Hi,

> On Tuesday 25 September 2012, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:14:39PM +0200, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
>> > On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:46:10 +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>> > 
>> > > I principle, i agree. However, i'm not too sure about mach-orion5x &
>> > > mach-mv78xx0. orion5x has probably been broken since -rc1 was released
>> > > and nobody noticed. In the same time, we got around 5 people
>> > > independently reporting kirkwood was broken. We have not received any
>> > > new boards for orion5x in the time i've been looking at Orion
>> > > platforms. mv78xx0 only has one board which is not a Marvell reference
>> > > design. So im tempted to not spend any effort moving orion5x or
>> > > mv78xx0 to DT unless these actually hinder the effort of moving the
>> > > others to DT.  What may make sense is to flatten mv78xx0 and orion5x
>> > > into plat-orion and then just watch the bit-rot happen.
>> > 
>> > I'll try to see if I can get people from LaCie to test mach-orion5x as
>> > I have a few contacts there, and I'll contact Marvell to see if they can
>> > still provide Orion-based platforms.
>> 
>> Marvell supplied my one one reference platform. So i can do some
>> testing that the basic infrastructure works.
>> 
>> But the problem with converting to DT is that there is a lot of
>> brainless monkey work needed per supported board, and its very easy to
>> make a typo. So each board converted to DT needs testing. I don't know
>> if we can find testers for all the boards. But should we throw out
>> working boards just because we cannot find somebody to test the DT
>> version?
>
> We can throw them out in a staged process. I think the first step should
> be ensuring that the platform support works on one (or better a few)
> board reliably, and merge support for that into mach-mvebu but leave
> the other ~20 board files in mach-orion5x without spending too much work
> on them. Whether that means pinctrl support for mach-orion5x is a something
> you need to figure out.
>
> The next step would be to label mach-orion5x as deprecated in Kconfig for
> a release and change the help text so it tells people to move to mach-mvebu
> and submit dts files.
>

You seem to imply that every user of mach-orion5x can write a dts
file. Please don't forget that afaik some users are using the kernel
provided by their $distribution, so if it gets broken it may be noticed
months later. Moreover, this kind of user won't notice the Kconfig info
as all they'll get is a binary.

> After that, we can leave mach-orion5x in the kernel for another release but
> completely disable the option to enable it in Kconfig as a last warning.
> This means anyone who is using it will have to move on or talk to us about
> extending the transition period.
>
> Finally, we remove mach-orion5x. Hopefully by that time, everyone who is
> using it will have contributed a dts file for it.
>
>> > Regarding mv78xx0, I agree that I'm not sure what to do. The number of
>> > supported platforms is small. Should we simply mark mv78xx0 deprecated
>> > now, wait a few release cycles to see if anyone shows up, and see what
>> > to do at this point?
>
> We should let Sebastien Requiem comment. He is the only person outside of
> Marvell who has contributed a board file for mv78xx0. If he's interested in
> keeping it alive, he's hopefully also able to find the time to test the
> devicetree version of that platform in mach-mvebu. Similarly, if anyone
> has the MASA reference design, that one could be moved over to mach-mvebu
> first.

There are some mv78xx0 (BP) dev boards used in Debian infrastructure, so
at least, would nice to not break mv78xx0 support.

Arnaud

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-25 11:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-25  0:02 [PATCH 0/6] Dove fixes for arm-soc/for-next Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  0:02 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  0:02 ` [PATCH 1/6] ARM: dove: Add pcie clock support Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  0:02   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  0:02 ` [PATCH 2/6] ARM: dove: Fix tauros2 device tree init Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  0:02   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  1:22   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  1:22     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  5:19     ` Andrew Lunn
2012-09-25  5:19       ` Andrew Lunn
2012-09-25  8:56       ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  8:56         ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  0:02 ` [PATCH 3/6] ARM: dove: Fix clock names of sata and gbe Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  0:02   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  0:02 ` [PATCH 4/6] ARM: dove: Restructure SoC device tree descriptor Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  0:02   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  0:02 ` [PATCH 5/6] ARM: dove: Remove watchdog from DT Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  0:02   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  5:35   ` Andrew Lunn
2012-09-25  5:35     ` Andrew Lunn
2012-09-25  9:11     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  9:11       ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  9:18       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2012-09-25  9:18         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2012-09-25  9:46         ` Andrew Lunn
2012-09-25  9:46           ` Andrew Lunn
2012-09-25 10:14           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2012-09-25 10:14             ` Thomas Petazzoni
2012-09-25 10:31             ` Andrew Lunn
2012-09-25 10:31               ` Andrew Lunn
2012-09-25 11:20               ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-25 11:20                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-25 11:48                 ` Arnaud Patard (Rtp) [this message]
2012-09-25 11:48                   ` Arnaud Patard
2012-09-25 12:28                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-25 12:28                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-10-08 18:40                     ` Martin Michlmayr
2012-10-08 19:57                       ` Andrew Lunn
2012-10-08 20:10                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-10-08 20:29                           ` Andrew Lunn
2012-09-25 12:33                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-25 12:33                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-25 18:25                   ` sebastien requiem
2012-09-25 20:02                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-25 20:02                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-09-25  0:02 ` [PATCH 6/6] ARM: dove: Add crypto engine to DT Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  0:02   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2012-09-25  5:37 ` [PATCH 0/6] Dove fixes for arm-soc/for-next Andrew Lunn
2012-09-25  5:37   ` Andrew Lunn

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