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From: Peter Korsgaard <jacmet@sunsite.dk>
To: Sven Luther <sven@genesi-usa.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev <Linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: USB support on mpc5200 broken
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:05:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iqseopb5.fsf@macbook.be.48ers.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080929151854.GA29375@powerlinux.fr> (Sven Luther's message of "Mon\, 29 Sep 2008 17\:18\:54 +0200")

>>>>> "Sven" == Sven Luther <sven@genesi-usa.com> writes:

Hi,

 >> This, of course, is exactly why I *don't* recommend embedded platforms
 >> move to including the device tree in the flashed firmware.  Keeping
 >> the device tree in the bootwrapper means that it *is* updated with the
 >> kernel and we don't have to mess around with as much backwards
 >> compatibility junk.

 Sven> This completely defeats the purpopse of having a separate
 Sven> device tree though, no ? I mean, we could just as well hardcode
 Sven> the device-tree info in the kernel in this case ?

Well, yes and no. The device tree brings a number of advantages (and a
few disadvantages as well), one of those being the potential
decoupling of kernel and DT. Even if you don't make use of that
feature in a production build you still have the other advantages
(E.G. easy compile test of multiple boards, limited
repeated-these-are-my-platform-devices code in board files, ...).

 Sven> (In embedded cases, the kernel is usyually in the flash as
 Sven> well, so you just upgrade both at the same time :)

Sure, but if you do that you might as well include them in a single
uImage because:

- They are always in sync
- You don't waste flash space (E.G. the DT is very small, but you
  waste a complete flash sector)

With uImage.<platform> U-Boot can still fix up the tree before booting
the kernel, so you don't lose any functionality (E.G. if you
enable/disable certain nodes based on what option boards are
available).

-- 
Bye, Peter Korsgaard

  reply	other threads:[~2008-09-29 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-09-24 21:51 USB support on mpc5200 broken Jon Smirl
2008-09-25  1:09 ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-25  1:50   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-09-25  2:40     ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-29  1:30     ` Matt Sealey
2008-09-29  3:43       ` David Gibson
2008-09-29 14:14         ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-29 14:22           ` Peter Korsgaard
2008-09-29 14:28             ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-29 15:07               ` Peter Korsgaard
2008-09-29 20:18           ` Scott Wood
2008-09-29 21:04             ` Jon Smirl
2008-09-29 22:02               ` Grant Likely
2008-09-30 15:20           ` Matt Sealey
2008-10-01  3:31             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-10-01  9:46               ` Carsten Schlote
2008-10-01 10:36                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-10-06 21:06               ` Matt Sealey
2008-09-29 15:18         ` Sven Luther
2008-09-29 17:05           ` Peter Korsgaard [this message]
2008-09-30  1:12           ` David Gibson
2008-09-30  1:24             ` Raquel and Bill
2008-09-30 15:15         ` Matt Sealey
2008-11-03 15:41   ` Grant Likely
2008-11-03 16:21     ` Jon Smirl

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