From: Piotr Oniszczuk <piotr.oniszczuk@gmail.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: Zhentao Guo <zhentao.guo@amlogic.com>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>,
Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v4 1/4] media: dt-bindings: Add Amlogic V4L2 video decoder
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 12:14:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D93350ED-72E3-43B5-BA4F-42E0FE491B2A@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58d57a6c-7c69-4f5b-a4c2-f34ef0238511@kernel.org>
> Wiadomość napisana przez Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> w dniu 13 lut 2026, o godz. 09:55:
>
> On 13/02/2026 09:31, Zhentao Guo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why? What for?
>>>>>
>>>>> What is canvas provider?
>>>> The canvas provider is: drivers/soc/amlogic/meson-canvas.c
>>> What is this "canvas" device.
>> You can think of canvas as the agent through which the decoder hardware
>> accesses DDR.
>
> AGAIN:
>
> What is the canvas device. Describe or point me to bindings describing
> it. Your current bindings say that canvas is "a collection of metadata
> that describes a pixel buffer" so there is no way it handles DDR access.
>
> NAK
>
>>>> In short, canvas is a hardware IP inside the Amlogic SoC. The decoder IP
>>>> needs to access DDR through canvas IP, so we need to reference the
>>> Why decoder cannot access DDR directly?
>> The internal topology of the S4 chip is designed this way, we don't know
>> why our VLSI colleauges designed like this. But similar designs have
>> been removed in subsequent chips, eliminating the need to rely on a
>> common hardware IP.
>
> Quite poor explanation. Based on this, this as well could be entry in
> device reg lists.
>
> Anyway, I am done guessing, explain properly the hardware instead of
> answering with half-baked responses just so I will go away.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof
>
Krzysztof,
May you pls explain me: what added value - to upstreaming aml video decoder - will be provided by giving NAK .... because canvas/DDR access details explanations are not enough detailed FOR YOU?
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From: Piotr Oniszczuk <piotr.oniszczuk@gmail.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
Cc: Zhentao Guo <zhentao.guo@amlogic.com>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>,
Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v4 1/4] media: dt-bindings: Add Amlogic V4L2 video decoder
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2026 12:14:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <D93350ED-72E3-43B5-BA4F-42E0FE491B2A@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58d57a6c-7c69-4f5b-a4c2-f34ef0238511@kernel.org>
> Wiadomość napisana przez Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org> w dniu 13 lut 2026, o godz. 09:55:
>
> On 13/02/2026 09:31, Zhentao Guo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> Why? What for?
>>>>>
>>>>> What is canvas provider?
>>>> The canvas provider is: drivers/soc/amlogic/meson-canvas.c
>>> What is this "canvas" device.
>> You can think of canvas as the agent through which the decoder hardware
>> accesses DDR.
>
> AGAIN:
>
> What is the canvas device. Describe or point me to bindings describing
> it. Your current bindings say that canvas is "a collection of metadata
> that describes a pixel buffer" so there is no way it handles DDR access.
>
> NAK
>
>>>> In short, canvas is a hardware IP inside the Amlogic SoC. The decoder IP
>>>> needs to access DDR through canvas IP, so we need to reference the
>>> Why decoder cannot access DDR directly?
>> The internal topology of the S4 chip is designed this way, we don't know
>> why our VLSI colleauges designed like this. But similar designs have
>> been removed in subsequent chips, eliminating the need to rely on a
>> common hardware IP.
>
> Quite poor explanation. Based on this, this as well could be entry in
> device reg lists.
>
> Anyway, I am done guessing, explain properly the hardware instead of
> answering with half-baked responses just so I will go away.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof
>
Krzysztof,
May you pls explain me: what added value - to upstreaming aml video decoder - will be provided by giving NAK .... because canvas/DDR access details explanations are not enough detailed FOR YOU?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-13 11:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-13 5:12 [PATCH RFC v4 0/4] Add Amlogic stateless H.264 video decoder for S4 Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 5:12 ` Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-02-13 5:12 ` Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-02-13 5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v4 1/4] media: dt-bindings: Add Amlogic V4L2 video decoder Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 5:12 ` Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-02-13 5:12 ` Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-02-13 7:35 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 7:35 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 8:04 ` Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 8:04 ` Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 8:17 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 8:17 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
[not found] ` <75e55ceb-e6dd-47b5-a829-66f6fbb3e13e@amlogic.com>
2026-02-13 8:16 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 8:16 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 8:31 ` Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 8:31 ` Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 8:55 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 8:55 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 9:14 ` Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 9:14 ` Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 11:14 ` Piotr Oniszczuk [this message]
2026-02-13 11:14 ` Piotr Oniszczuk
2026-02-13 11:30 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 11:30 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-05 11:01 ` Zhentao Guo
2026-03-05 11:01 ` Zhentao Guo
2026-03-05 11:08 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-05 11:08 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-05 11:35 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-03-05 11:35 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-03-05 11:53 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-05 11:53 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-03-05 15:57 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-03-05 15:57 ` Neil Armstrong
2026-02-13 5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v4 2/4] decoder: Add V4L2 stateless H.264 decoder driver Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 5:12 ` Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-02-13 5:12 ` Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-02-16 1:10 ` kernel test robot
2026-02-13 5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v4 3/4] arm64: dts: amlogic: Add video decoder driver support for S4 SOCs Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 5:12 ` Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-02-13 5:12 ` Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-02-13 5:12 ` [PATCH RFC v4 4/4] arm64: defconfig: Enable VDEC driver for Amlogic SoCs Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 5:12 ` Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-02-13 5:12 ` Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-02-13 7:33 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 7:33 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 8:06 ` Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 8:06 ` Zhentao Guo
2026-02-13 8:18 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-02-13 8:18 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
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