From: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@ventanamicro.com>
To: "yunhui cui" <cuiyunhui@bytedance.com>
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Subject: Re: [External] [PATCH] RISC-V: store percpu offset in CSR_SCRATCH
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2025 13:10:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB6MLPA3BJ75.2U5FP5JSJD2LO@ventanamicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEEQ3w=V6-d+YSWP=0WMt6UAZexrazq0UQjdyUmS3AnMtkdoKQ@mail.gmail.com>
2025-07-08T18:07:27+08:00, yunhui cui <cuiyunhui@bytedance.com>:
> This patch cleverly differentiates whether an exception originates
> from user mode or kernel mode. However, there's still an issue with
> using CSR_SCRATCH: each time handle_exception() is called, the
> following instructions must be executed:
>
> REG_L s0, TASK_TI_CPU(tp)
> slli s0, s0, 3
> la s1, __per_cpu_offset
> add s1, s1, s0
> REG_L s1, 0(s1)
> csrw CSR_SCRATCH, s1
We can minimize the cost at exception entry by storing the precomputed
offset in thread_info, which bloats the struct, and also incurs update
cost on cpu migration, but should still be a net performance gain.
The minimal code at exception entry would be:
REG_L s0, TASK_TI_PERCPU_OFFSET(tp)
csrw CSR_SCRATCH, s0
> Should we consider adding a dedicated CSR (e.g., CSR_SCRATCH2) to
> store the percpu offset instead?
> See: https://lists.riscv.org/g/tech-privileged/topic/113437553#msg2506
It would be nice to gather more data on the CSR_SCRATCH approach.
Basically, the overhead of "REG_L s0, TASK_TI_PERCPU_OFFSET(tp)".
(Or the longer sequence if we think it is worth it.)
Can you benchmark the patch after reverting percpu.h, so we include the
overhead of switching CSR_SCRATCH, but without any benefits provided by
the per-cpu offset?
The baseline would be the patch with reverted percpu.h, and reverted the
sequence that sets the CSR_SCRATCH in handle_exception, so we roughly
estimate the benefit of adding CSR_SCRATCH2.
The CSR_SCRATCH2 does add overhead to hardware, and to domain context
switches, and we also have to do something else for a few years anyway,
because it's not even ratified... It's possible we might not benefit
enough from CSR_SCRATCH2 to make a good case for it.
Thanks.
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From: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@ventanamicro.com>
To: "yunhui cui" <cuiyunhui@bytedance.com>
Cc: <masahiroy@kernel.org>, <nathan@kernel.org>,
<nicolas.schier@linux.dev>, <dennis@kernel.org>, <tj@kernel.org>,
<cl@gentwo.org>, <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>, <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
<aou@eecs.berkeley.edu>, <alex@ghiti.fr>, <andybnac@gmail.com>,
<bjorn@rivosinc.com>, <cyrilbur@tenstorrent.com>,
<rostedt@goodmis.org>, <puranjay@kernel.org>,
<ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk>, <zhangchunyan@iscas.ac.cn>,
<ruanjinjie@huawei.com>, <jszhang@kernel.org>,
<charlie@rivosinc.com>, <cleger@rivosinc.com>,
<antonb@tenstorrent.com>, <ajones@ventanamicro.com>,
<debug@rivosinc.com>, <haibo1.xu@intel.com>,
<samuel.holland@sifive.com>, <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
<linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org>,
"linux-riscv" <linux-riscv-bounces@lists.infradead.org>,
<wangziang.ok@bytedance.com>
Subject: Re: [External] [PATCH] RISC-V: store percpu offset in CSR_SCRATCH
Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2025 13:10:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DB6MLPA3BJ75.2U5FP5JSJD2LO@ventanamicro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEEQ3w=V6-d+YSWP=0WMt6UAZexrazq0UQjdyUmS3AnMtkdoKQ@mail.gmail.com>
2025-07-08T18:07:27+08:00, yunhui cui <cuiyunhui@bytedance.com>:
> This patch cleverly differentiates whether an exception originates
> from user mode or kernel mode. However, there's still an issue with
> using CSR_SCRATCH: each time handle_exception() is called, the
> following instructions must be executed:
>
> REG_L s0, TASK_TI_CPU(tp)
> slli s0, s0, 3
> la s1, __per_cpu_offset
> add s1, s1, s0
> REG_L s1, 0(s1)
> csrw CSR_SCRATCH, s1
We can minimize the cost at exception entry by storing the precomputed
offset in thread_info, which bloats the struct, and also incurs update
cost on cpu migration, but should still be a net performance gain.
The minimal code at exception entry would be:
REG_L s0, TASK_TI_PERCPU_OFFSET(tp)
csrw CSR_SCRATCH, s0
> Should we consider adding a dedicated CSR (e.g., CSR_SCRATCH2) to
> store the percpu offset instead?
> See: https://lists.riscv.org/g/tech-privileged/topic/113437553#msg2506
It would be nice to gather more data on the CSR_SCRATCH approach.
Basically, the overhead of "REG_L s0, TASK_TI_PERCPU_OFFSET(tp)".
(Or the longer sequence if we think it is worth it.)
Can you benchmark the patch after reverting percpu.h, so we include the
overhead of switching CSR_SCRATCH, but without any benefits provided by
the per-cpu offset?
The baseline would be the patch with reverted percpu.h, and reverted the
sequence that sets the CSR_SCRATCH in handle_exception, so we roughly
estimate the benefit of adding CSR_SCRATCH2.
The CSR_SCRATCH2 does add overhead to hardware, and to domain context
switches, and we also have to do something else for a few years anyway,
because it's not even ratified... It's possible we might not benefit
enough from CSR_SCRATCH2 to make a good case for it.
Thanks.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-08 11:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-04 8:45 [PATCH RFC] RISC-V: Fix a register to store the percpu offset Yunhui Cui
2025-07-04 8:45 ` Yunhui Cui
2025-07-07 7:55 ` Clément Léger
2025-07-07 7:55 ` Clément Léger
2025-07-07 12:50 ` [PATCH] RISC-V: store percpu offset in CSR_SCRATCH Radim Krčmář
2025-07-07 12:50 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-07-08 10:07 ` [External] " yunhui cui
2025-07-08 10:07 ` yunhui cui
2025-07-08 11:10 ` Radim Krčmář [this message]
2025-07-08 11:10 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-07-09 11:42 ` yunhui cui
2025-07-09 11:42 ` yunhui cui
2025-07-09 14:20 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-07-09 14:20 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-07-10 3:45 ` yunhui cui
2025-07-10 3:45 ` yunhui cui
2025-07-10 6:35 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-07-10 6:35 ` Radim Krčmář
2025-07-10 11:47 ` yunhui cui
2025-07-10 11:47 ` yunhui cui
2025-07-10 16:40 ` [PATCH] RISC-V: store precomputed percpu_offset in the task struct Radim Krčmář
2025-07-10 16:40 ` Radim Krčmář
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