From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Huacai Chen" <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
"Halil Pasic" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
"Leif Lindholm" <leif@nuviainc.com>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
"Alistair Francis" <alistair@alistair23.me>,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>,
qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
"Radoslaw Biernacki" <rad@semihalf.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Aleksandar Rikalo" <aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com>,
"Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] hw/kvm: Exit gracefully when KVM is not supported
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 12:18:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YC+sgaN1EyKeyyOQ@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9540912b-1a81-1fd2-4710-2b81d5e69c5f@redhat.com>
On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 01:15:25PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 2/19/21 1:00 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 12:44:21PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> This series aims to improve user experience by providing
> >> a better error message when the user tries to enable KVM
> >> on machines not supporting it.
> >
> > Improved error message is good, but it is better if the mgmt apps knows
> > not to try this in the first place.
>
> I am not sure this is the same problem. This series addresses
> users from the command line (without mgmt app).
Users of mgmt apps can launch the same problematic raspbi + KVM config
as people who don't use a mgmt app.
> > IOW, I think we want "query-machines" to filter out machines
> > which are not available with the currently configured accelerator.
> >
> > libvirt will probe separately with both TCG and KVM enabled, so if
> > query-machines can give the right answer in these cases, libvirt
> > will probably "just work" and not offer to even start such a VM.
>
> Yes, agreed. There are other discussions about 'query-machines'
> and an eventual 'query-accels'. This series doesn't aim to fix
> the mgmt app problems.
I think this should be fixing query-machines right now. It shouldn't
be much harder than a single if (...) test in the code.
Regards,
Daniel
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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Radoslaw Biernacki" <rad@semihalf.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
"Huacai Chen" <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
"Halil Pasic" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
"Leif Lindholm" <leif@nuviainc.com>,
"Aleksandar Rikalo" <aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com>,
"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
"Alistair Francis" <alistair@alistair23.me>,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>,
qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
"Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] hw/kvm: Exit gracefully when KVM is not supported
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 12:18:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YC+sgaN1EyKeyyOQ@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9540912b-1a81-1fd2-4710-2b81d5e69c5f@redhat.com>
On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 01:15:25PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 2/19/21 1:00 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 12:44:21PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> This series aims to improve user experience by providing
> >> a better error message when the user tries to enable KVM
> >> on machines not supporting it.
> >
> > Improved error message is good, but it is better if the mgmt apps knows
> > not to try this in the first place.
>
> I am not sure this is the same problem. This series addresses
> users from the command line (without mgmt app).
Users of mgmt apps can launch the same problematic raspbi + KVM config
as people who don't use a mgmt app.
> > IOW, I think we want "query-machines" to filter out machines
> > which are not available with the currently configured accelerator.
> >
> > libvirt will probe separately with both TCG and KVM enabled, so if
> > query-machines can give the right answer in these cases, libvirt
> > will probably "just work" and not offer to even start such a VM.
>
> Yes, agreed. There are other discussions about 'query-machines'
> and an eventual 'query-accels'. This series doesn't aim to fix
> the mgmt app problems.
I think this should be fixing query-machines right now. It shouldn't
be much harder than a single if (...) test in the code.
Regards,
Daniel
--
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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@redhat.com>
Cc: "Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Cornelia Huck" <cohuck@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
"Mark Cave-Ayland" <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
"Huacai Chen" <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
"Halil Pasic" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
"Hervé Poussineau" <hpoussin@reactos.org>,
"Leif Lindholm" <leif@nuviainc.com>,
"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
"Alistair Francis" <alistair@alistair23.me>,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Greg Kurz" <groug@kaod.org>,
qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
"David Gibson" <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
"Radoslaw Biernacki" <rad@semihalf.com>,
"Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <f4bug@amsat.org>,
qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Aleksandar Rikalo" <aleksandar.rikalo@syrmia.com>,
"Aurelien Jarno" <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] hw/kvm: Exit gracefully when KVM is not supported
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2021 12:18:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YC+sgaN1EyKeyyOQ@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9540912b-1a81-1fd2-4710-2b81d5e69c5f@redhat.com>
On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 01:15:25PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> On 2/19/21 1:00 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 12:44:21PM +0100, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> This series aims to improve user experience by providing
> >> a better error message when the user tries to enable KVM
> >> on machines not supporting it.
> >
> > Improved error message is good, but it is better if the mgmt apps knows
> > not to try this in the first place.
>
> I am not sure this is the same problem. This series addresses
> users from the command line (without mgmt app).
Users of mgmt apps can launch the same problematic raspbi + KVM config
as people who don't use a mgmt app.
> > IOW, I think we want "query-machines" to filter out machines
> > which are not available with the currently configured accelerator.
> >
> > libvirt will probe separately with both TCG and KVM enabled, so if
> > query-machines can give the right answer in these cases, libvirt
> > will probably "just work" and not offer to even start such a VM.
>
> Yes, agreed. There are other discussions about 'query-machines'
> and an eventual 'query-accels'. This series doesn't aim to fix
> the mgmt app problems.
I think this should be fixing query-machines right now. It shouldn't
be much harder than a single if (...) test in the code.
Regards,
Daniel
--
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-19 12:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-02-19 11:44 [PATCH 0/7] hw/kvm: Exit gracefully when KVM is not supported Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` [PATCH 1/7] accel/kvm: Check MachineClass kvm_type() return value Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` [PATCH 2/7] hw/boards: Introduce 'kvm_supported' field to MachineClass Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:57 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-19 11:57 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-19 11:57 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-19 12:08 ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-19 12:08 ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-19 12:10 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-19 12:10 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-19 15:52 ` Leif Lindholm
2021-02-19 15:52 ` Leif Lindholm
2021-02-19 11:44 ` [PATCH 3/7] hw/arm: Set kvm_supported for KVM-compatible machines Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` [PATCH 4/7] hw/mips: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` [RFC PATCH 5/7] hw/ppc: " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` [PATCH 6/7] hw/s390x: Set kvm_supported to s390-ccw-virtio machines Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` [PATCH 7/7] accel/kvm: Exit gracefully when KVM is not supported Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:44 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 11:55 ` [PATCH 0/7] hw/kvm: " Peter Maydell
2021-02-19 11:55 ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-19 11:55 ` Peter Maydell
2021-02-19 12:09 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 12:09 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 12:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-19 12:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-19 12:00 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-19 12:15 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 12:15 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 12:18 ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2021-02-19 12:18 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-19 12:18 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-02-19 13:10 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 13:10 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 12:34 ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-19 12:34 ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-19 12:34 ` Claudio Fontana
2021-02-19 17:36 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 17:36 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2021-02-19 17:36 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
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