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From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Miguel Luis <miguel.luis@oracle.com>,
	"kvmarm@lists.linux.dev" <kvmarm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] KVM: arm64: Handle AArch32 SPSR_{irq,abt,und,fiq} as RAZ/WI
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 08:46:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZTjV1Q05nXXOOyVO@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86h6mf3y3w.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 09:28:03AM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 00:04:27 +0100, Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev> wrote:
> > Correction (I wasn't thinking): RES0 behavior should be invariant, much
> > like the UNDEF behavior of the other AA32-specific registers.
> 
> I'm not sure what you're asking for exactly here, so let me explain my
> understanding of the architecture on this point, which is that the
> *32_EL2 registers are different in nature from the SPSR_* registers.

Damn, I still didn't manage to get my point across!

> IFAR32_EL2 and co are accessors for the equivalent AArch32 registers.
> If AArch32 isn't implemented, then these registers should UNDEF,
> because there is nothing to access at all.
> 
> The status of SPSR_* is more subtle: the AArch32 exception model is
> banked (irq, fiq, abt, und), and for each bank we have a triplet
> (LR_*, SP_*, SPSR_*), plus the extra R[8-12]_fiq. On taking an
> exception from AArch32 EL1 to AArch64 EL2, all the (LR_*, SP_*,
> R*_fiq) are stored as part of the AArch64 GPRs (X16-X30, see I_PYKVS).

Thanks. Yeah, I've got a pretty good handle on what's going on here.
What I really was trying to compare is the way these aliases into AA32
state are handled, and the annoying difference between the two sets.

IFAR32 and friends UNDEF unconditionally w/o AArch32, which I quite
like.

To your point, the SPSR_* accessors still trap even if AArch32 is not
implemented. I was suggesting in passing that it'd be nice if the
architecture alternatively allowed for these to read as RES0 (no trap)
if NV==1 and AArch32 is not implemented, which aligns with your change.

But after all...

> we will never see an AArch32-capable, NV-capable HW implementation
> ever, so this is all fairly academic.

None of this matters in the first place :)

-- 
Thanks,
Oliver

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From: Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: Miguel Luis <miguel.luis@oracle.com>,
	"kvmarm@lists.linux.dev" <kvmarm@lists.linux.dev>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] KVM: arm64: Handle AArch32 SPSR_{irq,abt,und,fiq} as RAZ/WI
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 08:46:13 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZTjV1Q05nXXOOyVO@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86h6mf3y3w.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 09:28:03AM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Oct 2023 00:04:27 +0100, Oliver Upton <oliver.upton@linux.dev> wrote:
> > Correction (I wasn't thinking): RES0 behavior should be invariant, much
> > like the UNDEF behavior of the other AA32-specific registers.
> 
> I'm not sure what you're asking for exactly here, so let me explain my
> understanding of the architecture on this point, which is that the
> *32_EL2 registers are different in nature from the SPSR_* registers.

Damn, I still didn't manage to get my point across!

> IFAR32_EL2 and co are accessors for the equivalent AArch32 registers.
> If AArch32 isn't implemented, then these registers should UNDEF,
> because there is nothing to access at all.
> 
> The status of SPSR_* is more subtle: the AArch32 exception model is
> banked (irq, fiq, abt, und), and for each bank we have a triplet
> (LR_*, SP_*, SPSR_*), plus the extra R[8-12]_fiq. On taking an
> exception from AArch32 EL1 to AArch64 EL2, all the (LR_*, SP_*,
> R*_fiq) are stored as part of the AArch64 GPRs (X16-X30, see I_PYKVS).

Thanks. Yeah, I've got a pretty good handle on what's going on here.
What I really was trying to compare is the way these aliases into AA32
state are handled, and the annoying difference between the two sets.

IFAR32 and friends UNDEF unconditionally w/o AArch32, which I quite
like.

To your point, the SPSR_* accessors still trap even if AArch32 is not
implemented. I was suggesting in passing that it'd be nice if the
architecture alternatively allowed for these to read as RES0 (no trap)
if NV==1 and AArch32 is not implemented, which aligns with your change.

But after all...

> we will never see an AArch32-capable, NV-capable HW implementation
> ever, so this is all fairly academic.

None of this matters in the first place :)

-- 
Thanks,
Oliver

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-25  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-23  9:54 [PATCH 0/5] KVM: arm64: NV trap forwarding fixes Marc Zyngier
2023-10-23  9:54 ` Marc Zyngier
2023-10-23  9:54 ` [PATCH 1/5] arm64: Add missing _EL12 encodings Marc Zyngier
2023-10-23  9:54   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-10-23  9:54 ` [PATCH 2/5] arm64: Add missing _EL2 encodings Marc Zyngier
2023-10-23  9:54   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-10-23  9:54 ` [PATCH 3/5] KVM: arm64: Refine _EL2 system register list that require trap reinjection Marc Zyngier
2023-10-23  9:54   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-10-23  9:54 ` [PATCH 4/5] KVM: arm64: Do not let a L1 hypervisor access the *32_EL2 sysregs Marc Zyngier
2023-10-23  9:54   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-10-23  9:54 ` [PATCH 5/5] KVM: arm64: Handle AArch32 SPSR_{irq,abt,und,fiq} as RAZ/WI Marc Zyngier
2023-10-23  9:54   ` Marc Zyngier
2023-10-23 18:55   ` Miguel Luis
2023-10-23 18:55     ` Miguel Luis
2023-10-24 17:25     ` Marc Zyngier
2023-10-24 17:25       ` Marc Zyngier
2023-10-24 22:41       ` Oliver Upton
2023-10-24 22:41         ` Oliver Upton
2023-10-24 23:04         ` Oliver Upton
2023-10-24 23:04           ` Oliver Upton
2023-10-25  8:28           ` Marc Zyngier
2023-10-25  8:28             ` Marc Zyngier
2023-10-25  8:46             ` Oliver Upton [this message]
2023-10-25  8:46               ` Oliver Upton
2023-10-25  8:49               ` Marc Zyngier
2023-10-25  8:49                 ` Marc Zyngier
2023-10-25 10:44       ` Miguel Luis
2023-10-25 10:44         ` Miguel Luis
2023-10-25  6:40 ` [PATCH 0/5] KVM: arm64: NV trap forwarding fixes Oliver Upton
2023-10-25  6:40   ` Oliver Upton

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