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From: michael chang <thenewme91@gmail.com>
To: Matt Stegman <matts@ksu.edu>
Cc: reiserfs-list@namesys.com
Subject: Re: journal size reiserfs vs reiser4
Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 21:04:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b14e81f005090318046ee67d7e@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.44L.0509021620380.23379-100000@unix2.cc.ksu.edu>

On 9/2/05, Matt Stegman <matts@ksu.edu> wrote:
> As far as repacking goes, I believe xfs_fsr refuses to defrag files if too
> little space is free.  If it's too hard to program a repacker to operate
> efficiently with only a few megabytes free, simply program it to exit with
> error when less than 5% disk is free.

I'd rather leave the repacker running inefficiently if it'll mean
it'll run more efficiently in the future.  [I believe Windows 9x's
repacker could get away with having just one free cluster if
necessary, although it'd have been painfully slow.]  Sometimes, I
can't clear off files unless I archive them, but they won't archive
unless they read fast enough (and fragmentation slows them down just
enough so they won't read fast enough - due to weird time constaints
that are built into the program that shouldn't be there).

It's possible to defragment tons of really small files with less than
5%, and that number changes with the size of the HD (you can't use an
arbirtrary number like 15%, like Windows XP, because that varies
heavily -- even if you had 50% free, if there were no two continous
free clusters, you couldn't defragment with the defragmenter in XP --
I don't want this kind of behaviour as the only way to do repack
things in case I end up in a weird spot.)

That said, I'd be half-satisfied if a repacker is released months or
years earlier because it doesn't efficiently handle weird cases (so
long as it remembers to try and repack free space too).  As for the 5%
error; a warning is safer.  Either that, or put in a force option to
get around the "error".

-- 
~Mike
 - Just my two cents
 - No man is an island, and no man is unable.

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-04  1:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-01 11:46 journal size reiserfs vs reiser4 Thomas Kuther
2005-09-01 12:48 ` Thomas Kuther
2005-09-01 12:53   ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-01 13:03     ` PFC
2005-09-01 13:12       ` Thomas Kuther
2005-09-01 13:05     ` Thomas Kuther
2005-09-01 13:07       ` Peter Staubach
2005-09-01 13:37         ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-01 15:25         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-01 16:06           ` Peter Staubach
2005-09-01 16:23             ` Marcel Hilzinger
2005-09-01 17:03             ` David Masover
2005-09-01 17:27               ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-01 17:36                 ` Peter Staubach
2005-09-01 17:59                   ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-01 18:14                     ` Peter Staubach
2005-09-01 22:17             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-02  2:28             ` michael chang
2005-09-02  6:34               ` Vladimir V. Saveliev
2005-09-02  7:19                 ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-02  7:39                   ` PFC
2005-09-02 16:02                     ` michael chang
2005-09-02 17:37                   ` Łukasz Mierzwa
2005-09-02 18:08                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-02 21:29                   ` Matt Stegman
2005-09-04  1:04                     ` michael chang [this message]
2005-09-04  2:38                       ` David Masover
2005-09-04  3:48                         ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-04  9:29                           ` Clemens Eisserer
2005-09-04 16:42                             ` David Masover
2005-09-05 12:16                               ` michael chang
2005-09-05 18:20                                 ` David Masover
2005-09-05 21:24                                   ` michael chang
2005-09-06 13:59                           ` Tom Vier
2005-09-06 20:32                             ` michael chang
2005-09-06 20:45                               ` David Masover
2005-09-06 20:47                                 ` michael chang
2005-09-06 21:03                                   ` David Masover
2005-09-06 23:10                               ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-07  2:48                                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-07 23:58                                   ` reiser4 merge status Hans Reiser
2005-09-08  0:08                                     ` Andrew Morton
2005-09-06 20:36                             ` journal size reiserfs vs reiser4 Gregory Maxwell
2005-09-06 20:41                               ` michael chang
2005-09-07 14:01                               ` Tom Vier
2005-09-07 20:18                                 ` michael chang
2005-09-05 12:14                       ` michael chang
2005-09-03 10:08           ` Sander
2005-09-03 11:34             ` Pierre Etchemaïté
2005-09-04  0:15             ` Hans Reiser
2005-09-01 13:13       ` Marcel Hilzinger
2005-09-01 13:15         ` Thomas Kuther
2005-09-01 14:08           ` michael chang
2005-09-01 13:13       ` Lexington Luthor
2005-09-01 13:28         ` Thomas Kuther

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