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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
Cc: ppcdev <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc: Create "rom" (MTD) device prpmc2800
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 21:48:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bd28eac8eb60db8aaff74f91c76d4196@kernel.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46630F8F.6080708@ru.mvista.com>

>>>    No! It doesn't have anything to do with "ranges" of parent (don't 
>>> even know why it would). :-O
>
>> So learn about it please?  "ranges" means exactly that:
>> child nodes' address space is direct mapped.
>
>    Well, now we certainly need a parent node -- which would be static 
> bus controller?

I have no clue what a "static bus controller" is.  Your
flash node obviously needs _some_ parent node though --
this is a tree after all.

> But those have multiple chips selects, so we should know which range 
> to use. Ugh...

That is described in the "reg" property of the flash
node, just like for any other node.

>> Because that is a) not what you are supposed to do according
>> to the standard (so it might very well not work with a
>> "third-party" device tree that equally conforms to the standard);
>> b) "device_type" describes some other information (namely, the
>> OF programming model for the device node) that is completely
>> unrelated to the process of driver matching; and c) it is wholly
>> redundant to the information in "compatible" *ANYWAY*.
>
>    Hm, well. Than changing "compatible" prop would make sense.

Yes.

>>> And why you haven't complained at MPC5200 IDE driver
>
>> Since no one paid me to review the code?  Please don't try
>
>    Sigh, nobody pays me for that too. :-)

Yeah it's a shame isn't it?

>>> which does the same (well, maybe you have :-) or at PowerMac IDE 
>>> driver which matches wither by "name" or "device_type"? Well, quite 
>>> a lot of drivers are doing this...
>
>> See before why that may be.  Short answer is "history".
>
>    Well, at least that's cleared.

Okido, good to hear.

>>>    Anyway, reasonable suggestions on how to make MTD nodes more 
>>> viable are always welcome. I just haven't seen reasonable enough 
>>> yet. ;-)
>
>> I suggest you read, and try to understand, some of the base
>> device tree specifications first.
>
>    Read them some months ago -- do you think I would have plunged into 
> that not reading anything first? :-/

It seems we really need more howto-style docs...


Segher

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-03 19:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-02  4:30 [PATCH] powerpc: Create "rom" (MTD) device prpmc2800 Milton Miller
2007-06-02  7:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03 16:10   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 17:36     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:03       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:03         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:25         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:25           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:36           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:36             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:46             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:46               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 19:16               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 19:16                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 21:04         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03 21:04           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-04 12:34           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 12:34             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 14:37             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 14:37               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 14:49               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 14:49                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-07 14:53           ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 14:53             ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:49             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 15:49               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 14:47         ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 14:47           ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:32           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 15:32             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-02  8:53 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 16:22   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 17:40     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:31       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:44         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 19:13           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 19:56             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 20:26               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04  8:07                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 13:34                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-07 15:00                 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:00                   ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:55                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 15:55                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 16:05                     ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 16:05                       ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 16:46                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 16:46                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-12  4:44                     ` David Gibson
2007-06-12 10:53                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  3:16                         ` David Gibson
2007-06-13  5:05                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  6:11                             ` David Gibson
2007-06-13  9:10                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-15  4:12                                 ` David Gibson
2007-06-15 11:22                                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-15  4:14                     ` David Gibson
2007-06-15  8:42                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-15  8:47                         ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-15  8:59                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 21:12     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03 21:12       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-04  8:11       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04  8:11         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 13:16         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 13:16           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 12:41       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 12:41         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 14:49         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 14:49           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 15:54           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 15:54             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 17:29 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 17:45   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:18     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:43       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:59         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 19:48           ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2007-06-03 20:10             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04  8:02               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 19:40 ` Mark A. Greer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-01 23:20 Mark A. Greer
2007-06-02  8:46 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 20:56 ` Mark A. Greer
2007-06-05 20:35   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-05 21:11     ` Mark A. Greer
2007-06-06 12:41       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-06 12:41         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-07 15:08         ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:08           ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-06  2:39   ` David Gibson
2007-06-07 13:30     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-12  4:42       ` David Gibson
2007-06-12 10:50         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  6:12           ` David Gibson
2007-06-13  9:13             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  9:19               ` David Gibson
2007-06-13  9:37                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14  4:29                   ` David Gibson
2007-06-14  8:00                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14 12:39                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-14 13:20                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14 12:48           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-14 13:18             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14 12:50         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-14 13:43           ` Segher Boessenkool

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