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From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: ppcdev <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc: Create "rom" (MTD) device prpmc2800
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 22:36:34 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46630A32.7000403@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <daa1b6f2e18f06f053d538d28d3c046a@kernel.crashing.org>

Segher Boessenkool wrote:

>>> Which Linux driver to use is not something that should
>>> be (directly) communicated in a device tree -- even if

>>    Bah... what's "name" and "compatible" properties are for then.

> They communicate to the kernel what exactly a certain device
> is.  Nothing more, nothing less.  The kernel is supposed to
> use this information to select what device driver to use for
> it.  Any extra information the kernel might need/want to drive
> the device is described in other properties (or, in some cases,
> in different device nodes, even).

    Yeah, the different node sounds more like this case.

>> Nobody's talking about the direct match but making the task of 
>> selecting a proper driver more complex by specifying the details that 
>> don't help (if not hinder) the correct selection is certainly not a 
>> way to go.

> Nonsense.  If the kernel doesn't care about certain details,
> it can just ignore them.

    That's OK, as long as it has the details it needs. Your suggestions on the 
"compatible" devoided it of such.

>>> -- the device tree on your board doesn't necessarily
>>> change when your kernel version does.

>>    Well, I'm not anticipating any changes either in this case...

> That's a problem then.

    At least not in the direction that you wanted us to change the MTD device 
node. :-)

>>>> the CFI/JEDEC interface then can be deduced by probing

>>> Most of the time, sure.  Not always.

>>    That's the way the cookie crumbles in Linux MTD for now. It's 
>> *always* detecting this by probing -- you only can say what [not] to 
>> probe.

> So go fix that :-)

    Wanna pay me for that? ;-)

>>> Who is talking about "probe-type"?  We are talking about "compatible".

>>    See my other mail where I've told why I don't consider your example 
>> of this prop valid...

> I haven't read that yet, but I can tell you now that I'm already
> very sceptical about the arguments.

> Segher

WBR, Sergei

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From: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@ru.mvista.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: ppcdev <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc: Create "rom" (MTD) device prpmc2800
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 22:36:34 +0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46630A32.7000403@ru.mvista.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <daa1b6f2e18f06f053d538d28d3c046a@kernel.crashing.org>

Segher Boessenkool wrote:

>>> Which Linux driver to use is not something that should
>>> be (directly) communicated in a device tree -- even if

>>    Bah... what's "name" and "compatible" properties are for then.

> They communicate to the kernel what exactly a certain device
> is.  Nothing more, nothing less.  The kernel is supposed to
> use this information to select what device driver to use for
> it.  Any extra information the kernel might need/want to drive
> the device is described in other properties (or, in some cases,
> in different device nodes, even).

    Yeah, the different node sounds more like this case.

>> Nobody's talking about the direct match but making the task of 
>> selecting a proper driver more complex by specifying the details that 
>> don't help (if not hinder) the correct selection is certainly not a 
>> way to go.

> Nonsense.  If the kernel doesn't care about certain details,
> it can just ignore them.

    That's OK, as long as it has the details it needs. Your suggestions on the 
"compatible" devoided it of such.

>>> -- the device tree on your board doesn't necessarily
>>> change when your kernel version does.

>>    Well, I'm not anticipating any changes either in this case...

> That's a problem then.

    At least not in the direction that you wanted us to change the MTD device 
node. :-)

>>>> the CFI/JEDEC interface then can be deduced by probing

>>> Most of the time, sure.  Not always.

>>    That's the way the cookie crumbles in Linux MTD for now. It's 
>> *always* detecting this by probing -- you only can say what [not] to 
>> probe.

> So go fix that :-)

    Wanna pay me for that? ;-)

>>> Who is talking about "probe-type"?  We are talking about "compatible".

>>    See my other mail where I've told why I don't consider your example 
>> of this prop valid...

> I haven't read that yet, but I can tell you now that I'm already
> very sceptical about the arguments.

> Segher

WBR, Sergei

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-03 18:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-02  4:30 [PATCH] powerpc: Create "rom" (MTD) device prpmc2800 Milton Miller
2007-06-02  7:39 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03 16:10   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 17:36     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:03       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:03         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:25         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:25           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:36           ` Sergei Shtylyov [this message]
2007-06-03 18:36             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:46             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:46               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 19:16               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 19:16                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 21:04         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03 21:04           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-04 12:34           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 12:34             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 14:37             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 14:37               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 14:49               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 14:49                 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-07 14:53           ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 14:53             ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:49             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 15:49               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 14:47         ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 14:47           ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:32           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 15:32             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-02  8:53 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 16:22   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 17:40     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:31       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:44         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 19:13           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 19:56             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 20:26               ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04  8:07                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 13:34                   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-07 15:00                 ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:00                   ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:55                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 15:55                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 16:05                     ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 16:05                       ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 16:46                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-07 16:46                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-12  4:44                     ` David Gibson
2007-06-12 10:53                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  3:16                         ` David Gibson
2007-06-13  5:05                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  6:11                             ` David Gibson
2007-06-13  9:10                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-15  4:12                                 ` David Gibson
2007-06-15 11:22                                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-15  4:14                     ` David Gibson
2007-06-15  8:42                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-15  8:47                         ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-15  8:59                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 21:12     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-03 21:12       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-04  8:11       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04  8:11         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 13:16         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 13:16           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 12:41       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 12:41         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 14:49         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 14:49           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 15:54           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04 15:54             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 17:29 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 17:45   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:18     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 18:43       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 18:59         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-03 19:48           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-03 20:10             ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-04  8:02               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 19:40 ` Mark A. Greer
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-01 23:20 Mark A. Greer
2007-06-02  8:46 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-04 20:56 ` Mark A. Greer
2007-06-05 20:35   ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-05 21:11     ` Mark A. Greer
2007-06-06 12:41       ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-06 12:41         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-07 15:08         ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-07 15:08           ` David Woodhouse
2007-06-06  2:39   ` David Gibson
2007-06-07 13:30     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-12  4:42       ` David Gibson
2007-06-12 10:50         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  6:12           ` David Gibson
2007-06-13  9:13             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-13  9:19               ` David Gibson
2007-06-13  9:37                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14  4:29                   ` David Gibson
2007-06-14  8:00                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14 12:39                     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-14 13:20                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14 12:48           ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-14 13:18             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-06-14 12:50         ` Sergei Shtylyov
2007-06-14 13:43           ` Segher Boessenkool

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