From: okaya@codeaurora.org
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Gabriele Paoloni <gabriele.paoloni@huawei.com>,
"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
timur@codeaurora.org,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Dongdong Liu <liudongdong3@huawei.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Thymo van Beers <thymovanbeers@gmail.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Frederick Lawler <fred@fredlawl.com>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-arm-kerne
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Add pci=safemode option
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 01:22:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c9698153b17ca6c6dab6a00cb1f0928e@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <577f01ada5e7f08c79a28d41020fb019@codeaurora.org>
On 2018-05-30 00:56, okaya@codeaurora.org wrote:
> On 2018-05-30 00:48, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:44:29AM -0700, okaya@codeaurora.org wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-30 00:37, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 09:41:33PM -0700, Sinan Kaya wrote:
>>> > > Bjorn and I discussed the need for such a "safe" mode feature when you
>>> > > want to bring up PCI for a platform. You want to turn off everything
>>> > > as
>>> > > a starter and just stick to bare minimum.
>>> >
>>> > Can we please make it a config option the instead of adding code
>>> > to every kernel? Also maybe the bringup should be in the name
>>> > to make this more clear?
>>>
>>> One other requirement was to have a runtime option rather than
>>> compile time
>>> option.
>>>
>>> When someone reported a problem, we wanted to be able to say "use
>>> this
>>> option and see if system boots" without doing any bisects or
>>> recompilation.
>>>
>>> This would be the first step in troubleshooting a system to see if
>>> fundamental features are working.
>>
>> That makes sense, people can not rebuild their kernels for the most
>> part. Putting it behind a config option would not make sense as it
>> would always have to be enabled.
>>
>
> Here is where the discussion took place. Last 5-10 messages should
> help.
>
>
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196197
>
Some more paper trail for general awareness.
https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/5/3/509
>
>>> I don't mind changing the name Bjorn mentioned safe option. I made it
>>> safemode. I am looking at Bjorn for suggestions at this moment.
>>
>> "minimal"? "basic"? "crippled"?
>> "my_hardware_is_so_borked_it_needs_this_option"? :)
>>
>> Naming is hard...
>>
>> greg k-h
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From: okaya@codeaurora.org
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, timur@codeaurora.org,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
Thymo van Beers <thymovanbeers@gmail.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
Dongdong Liu <liudongdong3@huawei.com>,
Frederick Lawler <fred@fredlawl.com>,
Oza Pawandeep <poza@codeaurora.org>,
Gabriele Paoloni <gabriele.paoloni@huawei.com>,
"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pci-owner@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Add pci=safemode option
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 01:22:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c9698153b17ca6c6dab6a00cb1f0928e@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <577f01ada5e7f08c79a28d41020fb019@codeaurora.org>
On 2018-05-30 00:56, okaya@codeaurora.org wrote:
> On 2018-05-30 00:48, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:44:29AM -0700, okaya@codeaurora.org wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-30 00:37, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 09:41:33PM -0700, Sinan Kaya wrote:
>>> > > Bjorn and I discussed the need for such a "safe" mode feature when you
>>> > > want to bring up PCI for a platform. You want to turn off everything
>>> > > as
>>> > > a starter and just stick to bare minimum.
>>> >
>>> > Can we please make it a config option the instead of adding code
>>> > to every kernel? Also maybe the bringup should be in the name
>>> > to make this more clear?
>>>
>>> One other requirement was to have a runtime option rather than
>>> compile time
>>> option.
>>>
>>> When someone reported a problem, we wanted to be able to say "use
>>> this
>>> option and see if system boots" without doing any bisects or
>>> recompilation.
>>>
>>> This would be the first step in troubleshooting a system to see if
>>> fundamental features are working.
>>
>> That makes sense, people can not rebuild their kernels for the most
>> part. Putting it behind a config option would not make sense as it
>> would always have to be enabled.
>>
>
> Here is where the discussion took place. Last 5-10 messages should
> help.
>
>
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196197
>
Some more paper trail for general awareness.
https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/5/3/509
>
>>> I don't mind changing the name Bjorn mentioned safe option. I made it
>>> safemode. I am looking at Bjorn for suggestions at this moment.
>>
>> "minimal"? "basic"? "crippled"?
>> "my_hardware_is_so_borked_it_needs_this_option"? :)
>>
>> Naming is hard...
>>
>> greg k-h
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From: okaya@codeaurora.org
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Gabriele Paoloni <gabriele.paoloni@huawei.com>,
"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
timur@codeaurora.org,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Dongdong Liu <liudongdong3@huawei.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Thymo van Beers <thymovanbeers@gmail.com>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Frederick Lawler <fred@fredlawl.com>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Oza Pawandeep <poza@codeaurora.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pci-owner@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Add pci=safemode option
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 01:22:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c9698153b17ca6c6dab6a00cb1f0928e@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <577f01ada5e7f08c79a28d41020fb019@codeaurora.org>
On 2018-05-30 00:56, okaya@codeaurora.org wrote:
> On 2018-05-30 00:48, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:44:29AM -0700, okaya@codeaurora.org wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-30 00:37, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 09:41:33PM -0700, Sinan Kaya wrote:
>>> > > Bjorn and I discussed the need for such a "safe" mode feature when you
>>> > > want to bring up PCI for a platform. You want to turn off everything
>>> > > as
>>> > > a starter and just stick to bare minimum.
>>> >
>>> > Can we please make it a config option the instead of adding code
>>> > to every kernel? Also maybe the bringup should be in the name
>>> > to make this more clear?
>>>
>>> One other requirement was to have a runtime option rather than
>>> compile time
>>> option.
>>>
>>> When someone reported a problem, we wanted to be able to say "use
>>> this
>>> option and see if system boots" without doing any bisects or
>>> recompilation.
>>>
>>> This would be the first step in troubleshooting a system to see if
>>> fundamental features are working.
>>
>> That makes sense, people can not rebuild their kernels for the most
>> part. Putting it behind a config option would not make sense as it
>> would always have to be enabled.
>>
>
> Here is where the discussion took place. Last 5-10 messages should
> help.
>
>
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196197
>
Some more paper trail for general awareness.
https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/5/3/509
>
>>> I don't mind changing the name Bjorn mentioned safe option. I made it
>>> safemode. I am looking at Bjorn for suggestions at this moment.
>>
>> "minimal"? "basic"? "crippled"?
>> "my_hardware_is_so_borked_it_needs_this_option"? :)
>>
>> Naming is hard...
>>
>> greg k-h
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From: okaya@codeaurora.org (okaya at codeaurora.org)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] PCI: Add pci=safemode option
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 01:22:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c9698153b17ca6c6dab6a00cb1f0928e@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <577f01ada5e7f08c79a28d41020fb019@codeaurora.org>
On 2018-05-30 00:56, okaya at codeaurora.org wrote:
> On 2018-05-30 00:48, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:44:29AM -0700, okaya at codeaurora.org wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-30 00:37, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 09:41:33PM -0700, Sinan Kaya wrote:
>>> > > Bjorn and I discussed the need for such a "safe" mode feature when you
>>> > > want to bring up PCI for a platform. You want to turn off everything
>>> > > as
>>> > > a starter and just stick to bare minimum.
>>> >
>>> > Can we please make it a config option the instead of adding code
>>> > to every kernel? Also maybe the bringup should be in the name
>>> > to make this more clear?
>>>
>>> One other requirement was to have a runtime option rather than
>>> compile time
>>> option.
>>>
>>> When someone reported a problem, we wanted to be able to say "use
>>> this
>>> option and see if system boots" without doing any bisects or
>>> recompilation.
>>>
>>> This would be the first step in troubleshooting a system to see if
>>> fundamental features are working.
>>
>> That makes sense, people can not rebuild their kernels for the most
>> part. Putting it behind a config option would not make sense as it
>> would always have to be enabled.
>>
>
> Here is where the discussion took place. Last 5-10 messages should
> help.
>
>
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196197
>
Some more paper trail for general awareness.
https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/5/3/509
>
>>> I don't mind changing the name Bjorn mentioned safe option. I made it
>>> safemode. I am looking at Bjorn for suggestions at this moment.
>>
>> "minimal"? "basic"? "crippled"?
>> "my_hardware_is_so_borked_it_needs_this_option"? :)
>>
>> Naming is hard...
>>
>> greg k-h
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: okaya@codeaurora.org
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, timur@codeaurora.org,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Christoffer Dall <cdall@linaro.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
Kai-Heng Feng <kai.heng.feng@canonical.com>,
Thymo van Beers <thymovanbeers@gmail.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
Dongdong Liu <liudongdong3@huawei.com>,
Frederick Lawler <fred@fredlawl.com>,
Oza Pawandeep <poza@codeaurora.org>,
Gabriele Paoloni <gabriele.paoloni@huawei.com>,
"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-pci-owner@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PCI: Add pci=safemode option
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 01:22:10 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c9698153b17ca6c6dab6a00cb1f0928e@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <577f01ada5e7f08c79a28d41020fb019@codeaurora.org>
On 2018-05-30 00:56, okaya@codeaurora.org wrote:
> On 2018-05-30 00:48, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:44:29AM -0700, okaya@codeaurora.org wrote:
>>> On 2018-05-30 00:37, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 09:41:33PM -0700, Sinan Kaya wrote:
>>> > > Bjorn and I discussed the need for such a "safe" mode feature when you
>>> > > want to bring up PCI for a platform. You want to turn off everything
>>> > > as
>>> > > a starter and just stick to bare minimum.
>>> >
>>> > Can we please make it a config option the instead of adding code
>>> > to every kernel? Also maybe the bringup should be in the name
>>> > to make this more clear?
>>>
>>> One other requirement was to have a runtime option rather than
>>> compile time
>>> option.
>>>
>>> When someone reported a problem, we wanted to be able to say "use
>>> this
>>> option and see if system boots" without doing any bisects or
>>> recompilation.
>>>
>>> This would be the first step in troubleshooting a system to see if
>>> fundamental features are working.
>>
>> That makes sense, people can not rebuild their kernels for the most
>> part. Putting it behind a config option would not make sense as it
>> would always have to be enabled.
>>
>
> Here is where the discussion took place. Last 5-10 messages should
> help.
>
>
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196197
>
Some more paper trail for general awareness.
https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/5/3/509
>
>>> I don't mind changing the name Bjorn mentioned safe option. I made it
>>> safemode. I am looking at Bjorn for suggestions at this moment.
>>
>> "minimal"? "basic"? "crippled"?
>> "my_hardware_is_so_borked_it_needs_this_option"? :)
>>
>> Naming is hard...
>>
>> greg k-h
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2018-05-30 3:19 [PATCH] PCI: Add pci=safemode option Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 3:19 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 3:19 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 3:19 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 3:19 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 4:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 4:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 4:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 4:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 4:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 4:41 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 4:41 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 4:41 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 4:41 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 4:41 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 4:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 4:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 4:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 4:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 4:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 7:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-30 7:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-30 7:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-30 7:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-30 7:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-30 7:44 ` okaya
2018-05-30 7:44 ` okaya
2018-05-30 7:44 ` okaya at codeaurora.org
2018-05-30 7:44 ` okaya
2018-05-30 7:44 ` okaya
2018-05-30 7:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 7:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 7:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 7:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 7:48 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-05-30 7:56 ` okaya
2018-05-30 7:56 ` okaya
2018-05-30 7:56 ` okaya at codeaurora.org
2018-05-30 7:56 ` okaya
2018-05-30 7:56 ` okaya
2018-05-30 8:22 ` okaya [this message]
2018-05-30 8:22 ` okaya
2018-05-30 8:22 ` okaya at codeaurora.org
2018-05-30 8:22 ` okaya
2018-05-30 8:22 ` okaya
2018-05-30 14:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-30 14:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-30 14:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-30 14:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-30 14:56 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2018-05-30 15:28 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 15:28 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 15:28 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-05-30 15:28 ` Sinan Kaya
2018-06-02 17:43 ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-02 17:43 ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-02 17:43 ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-02 17:43 ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-02 17:57 ` okaya
2018-06-02 17:57 ` okaya
2018-06-02 17:57 ` okaya at codeaurora.org
2018-06-02 17:57 ` okaya
2018-06-02 17:57 ` okaya
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