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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] really large storage sectors - going beyond 4096 bytes
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:47:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq138kfbv73.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52DFDCA6.1050204@redhat.com> (Ric Wheeler's message of "Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:58:46 -0500")

>>>>> "Ric" == Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com> writes:

Ric> I will have to see if I can get a storage vendor to make a public
Ric> statement, but there are vendors hoping to see this land in Linux
Ric> in the next few years. I assume that anyone with a shipping device
Ric> will have to at least emulate the 4KB sector size for years to
Ric> come, but that there might be a significant performance win for
Ric> platforms that can do a larger block.

I am aware of two companies that already created devices with 8KB
logical blocks and expected Linux to work. I had to do some explaining.

I agree with Ric that this is something we'll need to address sooner
rather than later.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

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From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [Lsf-pc] [LSF/MM TOPIC] really large storage sectors - going beyond 4096 bytes
Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2014 15:47:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq138kfbv73.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52DFDCA6.1050204@redhat.com> (Ric Wheeler's message of "Wed, 22 Jan 2014 09:58:46 -0500")

>>>>> "Ric" == Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com> writes:

Ric> I will have to see if I can get a storage vendor to make a public
Ric> statement, but there are vendors hoping to see this land in Linux
Ric> in the next few years. I assume that anyone with a shipping device
Ric> will have to at least emulate the 4KB sector size for years to
Ric> come, but that there might be a significant performance win for
Ric> platforms that can do a larger block.

I am aware of two companies that already created devices with 8KB
logical blocks and expected Linux to work. I had to do some explaining.

I agree with Ric that this is something we'll need to address sooner
rather than later.

-- 
Martin K. Petersen	Oracle Linux Engineering

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-01-22 20:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 121+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-20  9:30 LSF/MM 2014 Call For Proposals Mel Gorman
2013-12-20  9:30 ` Mel Gorman
2013-12-20  9:30 ` [Lsf-pc] " Mel Gorman
2014-01-06 22:20 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] [ATTEND] persistent memory progress, management of storage & file systems Ric Wheeler
2014-01-06 22:20   ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-06 22:32   ` faibish, sorin
2014-01-06 22:32     ` faibish, sorin
2014-01-07 19:44     ` Joel Becker
2014-01-07 19:44       ` Joel Becker
2014-01-21  7:00 ` LSF/MM 2014 Call For Proposals Michel Lespinasse
2014-01-21  7:00   ` Michel Lespinasse
2014-01-22  3:04 ` [LSF/MM TOPIC] really large storage sectors - going beyond 4096 bytes Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22  3:04   ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22  5:20   ` Joel Becker
2014-01-22  5:20     ` Joel Becker
2014-01-22  7:14     ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-01-22  7:14       ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-01-22  7:14       ` Hannes Reinecke
2014-01-22  9:34   ` [Lsf-pc] " Mel Gorman
2014-01-22  9:34     ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-22 14:10     ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 14:10       ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 14:34       ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-22 14:34         ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-22 14:58         ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 14:58           ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 15:19           ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-22 15:19             ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-22 17:02             ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 17:02               ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 17:21               ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 17:21                 ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 18:02                 ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 18:02                   ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 18:13                   ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 18:13                     ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 18:17                     ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 18:17                       ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 18:35                       ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 18:35                         ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 18:39                         ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 18:39                           ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 19:30                           ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 19:30                             ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 19:50                             ` Andrew Morton
2014-01-22 19:50                               ` Andrew Morton
2014-01-22 20:13                               ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 20:13                                 ` Chris Mason
2014-01-23  2:46                                 ` David Lang
2014-01-23  2:46                                   ` David Lang
2014-01-23  5:21                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-01-23  5:21                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-01-23  8:35                               ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23  8:35                                 ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23 12:55                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-01-23 12:55                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-01-23 19:49                                   ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23 19:49                                     ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23 21:21                                   ` Joel Becker
2014-01-23 21:21                                     ` Joel Becker
2014-01-22 20:57                             ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-01-22 20:57                               ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-01-22 20:57                               ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-01-22 18:37                     ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 18:37                       ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 18:40                       ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 18:40                         ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 18:47                       ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 18:47                         ` James Bottomley
2014-01-23 21:27                         ` Joel Becker
2014-01-23 21:27                           ` Joel Becker
2014-01-23 21:34                           ` Chris Mason
2014-01-23 21:34                             ` Chris Mason
2014-01-23  8:27                     ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23  8:27                       ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23 15:47                       ` James Bottomley
2014-01-23 15:47                         ` James Bottomley
2014-01-23 16:44                         ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-23 16:44                           ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-23 19:55                           ` James Bottomley
2014-01-23 19:55                             ` James Bottomley
2014-01-24 10:57                             ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-24 10:57                               ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-30  4:52                               ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-01-30  4:52                                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2014-01-30  6:01                                 ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-30  6:01                                   ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-30 10:50                                 ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-30 10:50                                   ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-23 20:34                           ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23 20:34                             ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23 20:54                         ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-23 20:54                           ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-23  8:24                 ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23  8:24                   ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23 20:48             ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-23 20:48               ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-22 20:47           ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2014-01-22 20:47             ` Martin K. Petersen
2014-01-23  8:21         ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-23  8:21           ` Dave Chinner
2014-01-22 15:14     ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 15:14       ` Chris Mason
2014-01-22 16:03       ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 16:03         ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 16:45         ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 16:45           ` Ric Wheeler
2014-01-22 17:00           ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 17:00             ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 21:05             ` Jan Kara
2014-01-22 21:05               ` Jan Kara
2014-01-23 20:47     ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-23 20:47       ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-24 11:09       ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-24 11:09         ` Mel Gorman
2014-01-24 15:44         ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-24 15:44           ` Christoph Lameter
2014-01-22 15:54   ` James Bottomley
2014-01-22 15:54     ` James Bottomley
2014-03-14  9:02 ` Update on LSF/MM [was Re: LSF/MM 2014 Call For Proposals] James Bottomley
2014-03-14  9:02   ` James Bottomley

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