From: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
To: Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com>
Cc: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
"James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com"
<James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
"snitzer@redhat.com" <snitzer@redhat.com>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: I/O topology fixes for big physical block size
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 18:36:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq18w2mddav.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CA118FF.1080100@fusionio.com> (Jens Axboe's message of "Tue, 28 Sep 2010 07:21:51 +0900")
>>>>> "Jens" == Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com> writes:
Jens> So it's just the hint, not the actual hardware sector size. The
Jens> naming is pretty bad on that, physical and logic...
This is the official T10/T13 terminology. Logical block size is the unit
used when talking to the device via ACS/SBC. Physical block size is the
unit used by the device internally. There's a pretty vague description
of what that means in SBC. But it was obviously conceived mainly to
handle disk drives with 512-byte logical and 4096-byte physical
(hardware) sectors.
The notion of using the physical block size as an indicator of erase
block size is something this unknown vendor came up with. And 1MB is
quite the ways out of range for what we expect in this field.
But my point is that devices with physical block sizes bigger than the
system page size are already out there. So we need to do the right
thing here. And since this is not something affecting runtime behavior
I'm in favor of deferring the decision what to do about it to userland.
Jens> So that does look better, but in that case I don't think that sd
Jens> should dump a warning.
That's fine by me.
Jens> Does mkfs do the right thing?
Depends on which mkfs it is. Mike has tested things and can chip in
here...
--
Martin K. Petersen Oracle Linux Engineering
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-27 22:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-27 16:41 I/O topology fixes for big physical block size Martin K. Petersen
2010-09-27 16:41 ` [PATCH 1/2] block: Ensure physical block size is unsigned int Martin K. Petersen
2010-09-27 17:40 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-10-08 5:15 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-10-13 19:12 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-10-13 19:15 ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-27 16:41 ` [PATCH 2/2] sd: Fix overflow with big physical blocks Martin K. Petersen
2010-09-27 17:42 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-09-27 18:13 ` [PATCH] block: eliminate potential for infinite loop in blkdev_issue_discard Mike Snitzer
2010-10-14 21:37 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-10-15 11:05 ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-27 16:54 ` I/O topology fixes for big physical block size Jens Axboe
2010-09-27 17:20 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-09-27 22:21 ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-27 22:36 ` Martin K. Petersen [this message]
2010-09-27 23:15 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-09-28 4:30 ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-28 5:20 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-09-28 14:15 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-09-28 20:57 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-28 21:24 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-09-28 21:24 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-09-28 21:36 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-09-30 16:30 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-30 17:07 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-09-30 17:33 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-10-01 14:24 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-01 22:19 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-10-01 22:19 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-10-02 2:31 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-10-02 3:03 ` Daniel Taylor
2010-10-04 19:49 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-10-04 19:49 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-09-30 17:07 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-09-27 17:23 ` Mike Snitzer
2010-09-27 21:58 ` James Bottomley
2010-09-27 22:03 ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-27 22:14 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-09-27 22:24 ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-28 18:48 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-09-28 18:54 ` Mike Snitzer
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