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From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, andriy.shevchenko@intel.com,
	Pan Xiuli <xiuli.pan@linux.intel.com>,
	Daniel Baluta <daniel.baluta@gmail.com>,
	liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com, vkoul@kernel.org,
	broonie@kernel.org, Alan Cox <alan@linux.intel.com>,
	sound-open-firmware@alsa-project.org
Subject: Re: [Sound-open-firmware] [PATCH v3 07/14] ASoC: SOF: Add DSP firmware logger support
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2018 11:01:15 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <647a8beb-1653-bb36-eed0-0e847ba5c7ea@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <s5h1s6mk9kz.wl-tiwai@suse.de>


On 12/12/18 10:12 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Dec 2018 17:04:42 +0100,
> Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>>
>> On 12/12/18 5:11 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 22:23:11 +0100,
>>> Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
>>>> From: Liam Girdwood <liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com>
>>>>
>>>> This patch adds support for real-time DSP logging (timestamped events
>>>> and bespoke binary data) for firmware debug. The current solution
>>>> relies on DMA transfers to system memory that is then accessed by
>>>> userspace tools such as sof-logger. For Intel platforms, two types of
>>>> DMAs are currently used (GP-DMA for Baytrail/CherryTrail and HDaudio
>>>> DMA for SKL+)
>>>>
>>>> Due to historical reasons, the driver code follows the DSP firmware
>>>> conventions and refers to 'traces', but it is currently unrelated to
>>>> the Linux trace subsystem. Future solutions will include support for
>>>> more advanced hardware (e.g. MIPI Sys-T), additional formats and the
>>>> ability to enable/disable specific traces dynamically.
>>> So what's the reason not to use Linux standard tracing infrastructure?
>> I obviously failed to convey the intent in the commit message :-(
>>
>> What we have today is just a DMA-based transfers of 'trace' data into
>> a ring buffer. That's it. it's very similar to what always existed on
>> Atom and Skylake, just more transparent and released for upstream
>> reviews this time.
>>
>> Is it optimal or final? Absolutely not. There will be evolutions such as
>>
>> A) support for multi-cores on the DSP side, each with their own
>> 'trace' capability.
>>
>> B) support for other hardware platforms which may not have a DMA.
>>
>> C) support for 'probes' to retrieve and inject PCM data into specific
>> firmware nodes.
>>
>> This patch does not create a new generic tracing infrastructure for
>> Linux. We are exploring ways by which this standard tracing
>> infrastructure can be used, we just haven't had time to look into it
>> as we focused on runtime_pm and new platforms first.
>>
>> Also we need to make sure the DSP traces are not defined for Linux
>> only, it's intended that the SOF firmware is used in non-Linux
>> environments, so we want to use what Linux provides, but not constrain
>> SOF to work for Linux only.
>>
>> Does this help?
> OK, that's fine.  Liam and I talked about Linux tracing for SOF, and I
> thought this might be that.  But this is rather a hardware data
> logging, so it's a different beast.
Thanks. I'll rework the commit message for the third time to be clearer...

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-12 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-11 21:23 [PATCH v3 00/14] Sound Open Firmware (SOF) core Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 01/14] ASoC: SOF: Add Sound Open Firmware driver core Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 22:20   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-12-11 23:20     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-12  7:51   ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-12 14:53     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-12 20:42   ` Daniel Baluta
2018-12-12 22:35     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-01-29 16:49   ` Daniel Baluta
2019-01-30 16:12     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 02/14] ASoC: SOF: Add Sound Open Firmware KControl support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 22:23   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-12-11 22:48     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 23:25       ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-12-12 20:18     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-12  7:35   ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-12 15:01     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 03/14] ASoC: SOF: Add driver debug support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 22:32   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-12-11 23:29     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-01-09 19:40   ` Mark Brown
2019-01-10 20:47     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 04/14] ASoC: SOF: Add support for IPC IO between DSP and Host Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 22:57   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-12-11 23:38     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-12  8:17   ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-12 15:19     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-12 15:34       ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-13  5:24       ` Keyon Jie
2018-12-13  7:48         ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-13  9:13           ` Keyon Jie
2018-12-13  8:06         ` Keyon Jie
2018-12-13  8:59           ` rander.wang
2019-01-09 20:37   ` Mark Brown
2019-01-10 20:11     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-01-22 19:04       ` Mark Brown
2019-01-22 21:05         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-01-22 21:13           ` Mark Brown
2019-01-23  5:51           ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Keyon Jie
2019-01-14 15:10   ` Daniel Baluta
2019-01-14 17:39     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 05/14] ASoC: SOF: Add PCM operations support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-12  8:04   ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-12 13:12     ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-12-12 15:29     ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-12 15:43       ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-12 16:10         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-12 22:09   ` Daniel Baluta
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 06/14] ASoC: SOF: Add support for loading topologies Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 07/14] ASoC: SOF: Add DSP firmware logger support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 23:21   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-12-11 23:43     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-12  6:44       ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-12 11:11   ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-12 16:04     ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-12 16:12       ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-12 17:01         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2019-01-09 20:44   ` Mark Brown
2019-01-09 21:39     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-01-22 18:57       ` Mark Brown
2019-01-22 20:33         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-01-22 20:41           ` Mark Brown
2019-01-22 20:52             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-01-22 21:08               ` Mark Brown
2019-01-22 21:13                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 08/14] ASoC: SOF: Add DSP HW abstraction operations Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 23:16   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-12-11 23:45     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-01-09 20:51   ` Mark Brown
2019-01-09 21:37     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-01-22 18:56       ` Mark Brown
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 09/14] ASoC: SOF: Add firmware loader support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 22:38   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-12-11 23:54     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-01-09 20:55       ` Mark Brown
2018-12-12 11:23   ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-12 16:06     ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2019-01-09 21:02   ` Mark Brown
2019-01-09 21:24     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 10/14] ASoC: SOF: Add userspace ABI support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-21 11:10   ` Daniel Baluta
2018-12-21 14:59     ` [Sound-open-firmware] " Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 11/14] ASoC: SOF: Add PM support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-12 11:32   ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-12 16:08     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 12/14] ASoC: SOF: Add Nocodec machine driver support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 13/14] ASoC: SOF: Add xtensa support Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 23:08   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-12-12  0:00     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
     [not found]       ` <93aff9af-c693-c951-4821-e9e334133ed0@linux.intel.com>
2018-12-13  9:58         ` [Sound-open-firmware] " rander.wang
2018-12-17 13:45           ` Takashi Iwai
2018-12-17 14:24             ` Mark Brown
2018-12-11 21:23 ` [PATCH v3 14/14] ASoC: SOF: Add utils Pierre-Louis Bossart
2018-12-11 23:06   ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-12-12  0:06     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart

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