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From: Oswald Buddenhagen <oswald.buddenhagen@gmx.de>
To: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/8] ALSA: emu10k1: add support for high-bitrate modes of E-MU cards
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2023 12:19:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZLUVxVUHtUJvcuZQ@ugly> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mt02wvsa.wl-tiwai@suse.de>

On Tue, Jul 11, 2023 at 01:08:05PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Jul 2023 12:15:31 +0200,
>Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2023 at 05:06:36PM +0200, Takashi Iwai wrote:
>> > I still can't agree with the basic design using the dynamic kctl
>> > addition / deletion in kcontrol's put action.
>> > 
>> you are not being constructive. please provide specific, actionable
>> responses to _all_ challenges/questions.
>
>The fundamental idea to add / delete the kctls from the put callback
>is unacceptable; as repeated many times, this is known to break
>existing applications.  As long as you are sticking with this idea, it
>can go [no] further.  Please avoid it and use the (more or less) static
>configuration instead.
>
to put the implications of this in clear words:
you want me to spend additional time
on a driver barely anyone still cares about
to actively degrade the (my!) user experience
to avoid hypothetical / likely obsolete crashes
that would happen upon a rare user-controlled event
in unspecified buggy (mixer? (!)) applications,
while a known-good fallback exists (alsamixer).

i fail to see how that is even _remotely_ a reasonable request, and 
therefore have no intention whatsoever to follow it.

regards

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-17 10:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-30 14:45 [PATCH v2 0/8] ALSA: emu10k1: add support for high-bitrate modes of E-MU cards Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-06-30 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] ALSA: emu10k1: introduce alternative E-MU D.A.S. mode Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-06-30 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] ALSA: emu10k1: improve mixer control naming in " Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-06-30 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] ALSA: emu10k1: set the "no filtering" bits on PCM voices Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-06-30 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] ALSA: emu10k1: make playback in E-MU D.A.S. mode 32-bit Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-06-30 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] ALSA: add snd_ctl_add_locked() Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-06-30 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] ALSA: emu10k1: add support for 2x/4x word clocks in E-MU D.A.S. mode Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-06-30 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] ALSA: emu10k1: add high-rate capture " Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-06-30 14:45 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] ALSA: emu10k1: add high-rate playback " Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-07-10 15:06 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] ALSA: emu10k1: add support for high-bitrate modes of E-MU cards Takashi Iwai
2023-07-11 10:15   ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-07-11 11:08     ` Takashi Iwai
2023-07-17 10:19       ` Oswald Buddenhagen [this message]
2023-07-17 12:53         ` Takashi Iwai
2023-07-17 15:32           ` Oswald Buddenhagen

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