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From: "Christian König" <ckoenig.leichtzumerken@gmail.com>
To: Andrey Grodzovsky <Andrey.Grodzovsky@amd.com>,
	christian.koenig@amd.com, Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Anholt, Eric" <eric@anholt.net>,
	Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>,
	amd-gfx list <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Alex Deucher <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>,
	Qiang Yu <yuq825@gmail.com>,
	"Wentland, Harry" <Harry.Wentland@amd.com>,
	Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/14] drm/amdgpu: Guard against write accesses after device removal
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 09:27:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53b95e8b-4079-2bd1-46e1-df15b2fdd2cc@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3f7efc21-f2fb-73a9-216c-aa1e531e35a0@amd.com>


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Am 08.02.21 um 23:09 schrieb Andrey Grodzovsky:
>
>
> On 2/8/21 4:37 AM, Christian König wrote:
>> Am 07.02.21 um 22:50 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
>>> [SNIP]
>>>> Clarification - as far as I know there are no page fault handlers 
>>>> for kernel
>>>> mappings. And we are talking about kernel mappings here, right ?  
>>>> If there were
>>>> I could solve all those issues the same as I do for user mappings, by
>>>> invalidating all existing mappings in the kernel (both kmaps and 
>>>> ioreamps)and
>>>> insert dummy zero or ~0 filled page instead.
>>>> Also, I assume forcefully remapping the IO BAR to ~0 filled page 
>>>> would involve
>>>> ioremap API and it's not something that I think can be easily done 
>>>> according to
>>>> am answer i got to a related topic a few weeks ago
>>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spinics.net%2Flists%2Flinux-pci%2Fmsg103396.html&amp;data=04%7C01%7CAndrey.Grodzovsky%40amd.com%7Cb159d3ce264944486c8008d8cc15233a%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637483738446813868%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=6eP0nhS%2BZwp1Y54CwfX8vaV3FTWbW8IylW5JFaf92pY%3D&amp;reserved=0 
>>>> (that was the only reply
>>>> i got)
>>> mmiotrace can, but only for debug, and only on x86 platforms:
>>>
>>> https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kernel.org%2Fdoc%2Fhtml%2Flatest%2Ftrace%2Fmmiotrace.html&amp;data=04%7C01%7CAndrey.Grodzovsky%40amd.com%7Cb159d3ce264944486c8008d8cc15233a%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637483738446813868%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=QBF9J%2BVIRUkUTTjvNoZR8NqFNt8CpHkcknH2qKX7dd8%3D&amp;reserved=0 
>>>
>>>
>>> Should be feasible (but maybe not worth the effort) to extend this to
>>> support fake unplug.
>>
>> Mhm, interesting idea you guys brought up here.
>>
>> We don't need a page fault for this to work, all we need to do is to 
>> insert dummy PTEs into the kernels page table at the place where 
>> previously the MMIO mapping has been.
>
>
> But that exactly what Mathew from linux-mm says is not a trivial thing 
> to do, quote:
>
> "
>
> ioremap() is done through the vmalloc space.  It would, in theory, be
> possible to reprogram the page tables used for vmalloc to point to your
> magic page.  I don't think we have such a mechanism today, and there are
> lots of problems with things like TLB flushes.  It's probably going to
> be harder than you think.
> "

I haven't followed the full discussion, but I don't see much preventing 
this.

All you need is a new ioremap_dummy() function which takes the old start 
and length of the mapping.

Still a bit core and maybe even platform code, but rather useful I think.

Christian.

>
> If you believe it's actually doable then it would be useful not only for simulating device
> unplugged situation with all MMIOs returning 0xff... but for actual handling of driver accesses
> to MMIO after device is gone and, we could then drop entirely this patch as there would be no need
> to guard against such accesses post device unplug.


>
>   
>>
>>>>> But ugh ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Otoh validating an entire driver like amdgpu without such a trick
>>>>> against 0xff reads is practically impossible. So maybe you need to 
>>>>> add
>>>>> this as one of the tasks here?
>>>> Or I could just for validation purposes return ~0 from all reg 
>>>> reads in the code
>>>> and ignore writes if drm_dev_unplugged, this could already easily 
>>>> validate a big
>>>> portion of the code flow under such scenario.
>>> Hm yeah if your really wrap them all, that should work too. Since
>>> iommappings have __iomem pointer type, as long as amdgpu is sparse
>>> warning free, should be doable to guarantee this.
>>
>> Problem is that ~0 is not always a valid register value.
>>
>> You would need to audit every register read that it doesn't use the 
>> returned value blindly as index or similar. That is quite a bit of work.
>
>
> But ~0 is the value that will be returned for every read post device 
> unplug, regardless if it's valid or not, and we have to cope with
> it then, no ?
>
> Andrey
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Christian.
>>
>>> -Daniel
>>>
>>>> Andrey
>>>>
>>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-09  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-18 21:01 [PATCH v4 00/14] RFC Support hot device unplug in amdgpu Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] drm/ttm: Remap all page faults to per process dummy page Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:48   ` Alex Deucher
2021-01-19  8:41   ` Christian König
2021-01-19 13:56   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-25 15:28     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-27 14:29       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-02 14:21         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] drm: Unamp the entire device address space on device unplug Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] drm/ttm: Expose ttm_tt_unpopulate for driver use Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] drm/sched: Cancel and flush all oustatdning jobs before finish Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:49   ` Alex Deucher
2021-01-19  8:42   ` Christian König
2021-01-19  9:50     ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] drm/amdgpu: Split amdgpu_device_fini into early and late Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19  8:45   ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] drm/amdgpu: Add early fini callback Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] drm/amdgpu: Register IOMMU topology notifier per device Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:52   ` Alex Deucher
2021-01-19  8:48   ` Christian König
2021-01-19 13:45     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-19 21:21       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 22:01         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-20  4:21           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20  8:38             ` Daniel Vetter
     [not found]               ` <1a5f7ccb-1f91-91be-1cb1-e7cb43ac2c13@amd.com>
2021-01-21 10:48                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-20  5:01     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20 19:38       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-21 10:42         ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] drm/amdgpu: Fix a bunch of sdma code crash post device unplug Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19  8:51   ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] drm/amdgpu: Remap all page faults to per process dummy page Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19  8:52   ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] dmr/amdgpu: Move some sysfs attrs creation to default_attr Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19  7:34   ` Greg KH
2021-01-19 16:36     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 17:47       ` Greg KH
2021-01-19 19:04         ` Alex Deucher
2021-01-19 19:16           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 19:41           ` Greg KH
2021-01-19  8:53   ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] drm/amdgpu: Guard against write accesses after device removal Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19  8:55   ` Christian König
2021-01-19 15:35     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 15:39       ` Christian König
2021-01-19 18:05       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-19 18:22         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 18:59           ` Christian König
2021-01-19 19:16             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20 19:34               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-28 17:23             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-29 15:16               ` Christian König
2021-01-29 17:35                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-29 19:25                   ` Christian König
2021-02-05 16:22                     ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-05 22:10                       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-05 23:09                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-06 14:18                           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-07 21:28                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-07 21:50                           ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08  9:37                             ` Christian König
2021-02-08  9:48                               ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08 10:03                                 ` Christian König
2021-02-08 10:11                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08 13:59                                     ` Christian König
2021-02-08 16:23                                       ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08 22:15                                         ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-09  7:58                                           ` Christian König
2021-02-09 14:30                                             ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-09 15:40                                               ` Christian König
2021-02-10 22:01                                                 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-12 15:00                                                   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-08 22:09                               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-09  8:27                                 ` Christian König [this message]
2021-02-09  9:46                                   ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] drm/scheduler: Job timeout handler returns status Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19  7:53   ` Christian König
2021-01-19 17:47     ` Luben Tuikov
2021-01-19 18:53       ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] drm/sched: Make timeout timer rearm conditional Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] drm/amdgpu: Prevent any job recoveries after device is unplugged Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 14:16 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] RFC Support hot device unplug in amdgpu Daniel Vetter
2021-01-19 17:31   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 18:08     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-19 18:18       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20  9:05         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-20 14:19           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20 15:59             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08  5:59               ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-08  7:27                 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-09  4:01                   ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-09  9:50                     ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-09 15:34                       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-18 20:03                       ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-19 10:24                         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-24 16:30                           ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-25 10:25                             ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-25 16:12                               ` Andrey Grodzovsky

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