From: Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>
To: christian.koenig@amd.com
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Andrey Grodzovsky <Andrey.Grodzovsky@amd.com>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Anholt, Eric" <eric@anholt.net>,
Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>,
amd-gfx list <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Alex Deucher <Alexander.Deucher@amd.com>,
Qiang Yu <yuq825@gmail.com>,
"Wentland, Harry" <Harry.Wentland@amd.com>,
Lucas Stach <l.stach@pengutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/14] drm/amdgpu: Guard against write accesses after device removal
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2021 11:11:47 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YCEOY5wFmpGRl7jJ@phenom.ffwll.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6c639669-b78d-b6a3-71b9-d546ca34121b@gmail.com>
On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 11:03:15AM +0100, Christian König wrote:
> Am 08.02.21 um 10:48 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> > On Mon, Feb 08, 2021 at 10:37:19AM +0100, Christian König wrote:
> > > Am 07.02.21 um 22:50 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> > > > [SNIP]
> > > > > Clarification - as far as I know there are no page fault handlers for kernel
> > > > > mappings. And we are talking about kernel mappings here, right ? If there were
> > > > > I could solve all those issues the same as I do for user mappings, by
> > > > > invalidating all existing mappings in the kernel (both kmaps and ioreamps)and
> > > > > insert dummy zero or ~0 filled page instead.
> > > > > Also, I assume forcefully remapping the IO BAR to ~0 filled page would involve
> > > > > ioremap API and it's not something that I think can be easily done according to
> > > > > am answer i got to a related topic a few weeks ago
> > > > > https://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-pci/msg103396.html (that was the only reply
> > > > > i got)
> > > > mmiotrace can, but only for debug, and only on x86 platforms:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/trace/mmiotrace.html
> > > >
> > > > Should be feasible (but maybe not worth the effort) to extend this to
> > > > support fake unplug.
> > > Mhm, interesting idea you guys brought up here.
> > >
> > > We don't need a page fault for this to work, all we need to do is to insert
> > > dummy PTEs into the kernels page table at the place where previously the
> > > MMIO mapping has been.
> > Simply pte trick isn't enough, because we need:
> > - drop all writes silently
> > - all reads return 0xff
> >
> > ptes can't do that themselves, we minimally need write protection and then
> > silently proceed on each write fault without restarting the instruction.
> > Better would be to only catch reads, but x86 doesn't do write-only pte
> > permissions afaik.
>
> You are not thinking far enough :)
>
> The dummy PTE is point to a dummy MMIO page which is just never used.
>
> That hast the exact same properties than our removed MMIO space just doesn't
> goes bananas when a new device is MMIO mapped into that and our driver still
> tries to write there.
Hm, but where do we get such a "guaranteed never used" mmio page from?
It's a nifty idea indeed otherwise ...
-Daniel
>
> Regards,
> Christian.
>
>
> >
> > > > > > But ugh ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Otoh validating an entire driver like amdgpu without such a trick
> > > > > > against 0xff reads is practically impossible. So maybe you need to add
> > > > > > this as one of the tasks here?
> > > > > Or I could just for validation purposes return ~0 from all reg reads in the code
> > > > > and ignore writes if drm_dev_unplugged, this could already easily validate a big
> > > > > portion of the code flow under such scenario.
> > > > Hm yeah if your really wrap them all, that should work too. Since
> > > > iommappings have __iomem pointer type, as long as amdgpu is sparse
> > > > warning free, should be doable to guarantee this.
> > > Problem is that ~0 is not always a valid register value.
> > >
> > > You would need to audit every register read that it doesn't use the returned
> > > value blindly as index or similar. That is quite a bit of work.
> > Yeah that's the entire crux here :-/
> > -Daniel
>
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Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
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Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-18 21:01 [PATCH v4 00/14] RFC Support hot device unplug in amdgpu Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] drm/ttm: Remap all page faults to per process dummy page Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:48 ` Alex Deucher
2021-01-19 8:41 ` Christian König
2021-01-19 13:56 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-25 15:28 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-27 14:29 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-02 14:21 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] drm: Unamp the entire device address space on device unplug Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] drm/ttm: Expose ttm_tt_unpopulate for driver use Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] drm/sched: Cancel and flush all oustatdning jobs before finish Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:49 ` Alex Deucher
2021-01-19 8:42 ` Christian König
2021-01-19 9:50 ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] drm/amdgpu: Split amdgpu_device_fini into early and late Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 8:45 ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] drm/amdgpu: Add early fini callback Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] drm/amdgpu: Register IOMMU topology notifier per device Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:52 ` Alex Deucher
2021-01-19 8:48 ` Christian König
2021-01-19 13:45 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-19 21:21 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 22:01 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-20 4:21 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20 8:38 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <1a5f7ccb-1f91-91be-1cb1-e7cb43ac2c13@amd.com>
2021-01-21 10:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-20 5:01 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20 19:38 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-21 10:42 ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] drm/amdgpu: Fix a bunch of sdma code crash post device unplug Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 8:51 ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] drm/amdgpu: Remap all page faults to per process dummy page Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 8:52 ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] dmr/amdgpu: Move some sysfs attrs creation to default_attr Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 7:34 ` Greg KH
2021-01-19 16:36 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 17:47 ` Greg KH
2021-01-19 19:04 ` Alex Deucher
2021-01-19 19:16 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 19:41 ` Greg KH
2021-01-19 8:53 ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] drm/amdgpu: Guard against write accesses after device removal Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 8:55 ` Christian König
2021-01-19 15:35 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 15:39 ` Christian König
2021-01-19 18:05 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-19 18:22 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 18:59 ` Christian König
2021-01-19 19:16 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20 19:34 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-28 17:23 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-29 15:16 ` Christian König
2021-01-29 17:35 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-29 19:25 ` Christian König
2021-02-05 16:22 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-05 22:10 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-05 23:09 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-06 14:18 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-07 21:28 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-07 21:50 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08 9:37 ` Christian König
2021-02-08 9:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08 10:03 ` Christian König
2021-02-08 10:11 ` Daniel Vetter [this message]
2021-02-08 13:59 ` Christian König
2021-02-08 16:23 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08 22:15 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-09 7:58 ` Christian König
2021-02-09 14:30 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-09 15:40 ` Christian König
2021-02-10 22:01 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-12 15:00 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-08 22:09 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-09 8:27 ` Christian König
2021-02-09 9:46 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] drm/scheduler: Job timeout handler returns status Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 7:53 ` Christian König
2021-01-19 17:47 ` Luben Tuikov
2021-01-19 18:53 ` Christian König
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] drm/sched: Make timeout timer rearm conditional Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-18 21:01 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] drm/amdgpu: Prevent any job recoveries after device is unplugged Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 14:16 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] RFC Support hot device unplug in amdgpu Daniel Vetter
2021-01-19 17:31 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-19 18:08 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-19 18:18 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20 9:05 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-01-20 14:19 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-01-20 15:59 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-08 5:59 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-08 7:27 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-09 4:01 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-09 9:50 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-09 15:34 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-18 20:03 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-19 10:24 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-24 16:30 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
2021-02-25 10:25 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-02-25 16:12 ` Andrey Grodzovsky
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