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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: "Timur Kristóf" <timur.kristof@gmail.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexdeucher@gmail.com>
Cc: amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, alexander.deucher@amd.com,
	alex.hung@amd.com, harry.wentland@amd.com, siqueira@igalia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] drm/amd/display: Set stricter clock dividers on DCE 6-10
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 2025 15:12:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6b1b9e23-ed14-4dec-9369-e7f96bf257e2@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d214f753-21ae-4158-a9de-0459d7171360@gmail.com>

On 13.10.25 08:15, Timur Kristóf wrote:
> On 10/9/25 21:38, Alex Deucher wrote:
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 7:39 PM <timur.kristof@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2025-09-28 at 16:14 +0200, Christian König wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 26.09.25 20:26, Timur Kristóf wrote:
>>>>> Set stricter dividers to stabilize the PLL's feedback loop.
>>>>> In practice, the actual output isn't exactly the target
>>>>> clock, but slowly oscillates around it. This makes it
>>>>> more stable.
>>>>>
>>>>> The values here are taken from the non-DC code.
>>>>
>>>> There are also a bunch of other restrictions which need to be kept in
>>>> mind.
>>>>
>>>> For example what is the minimum feedback divider value the DC code
>>>> uses?
>>>
>>> As far as I see DC doesn't have minimum / maximum limits for the
>>> feedback divider right now, though I can add that in a future patch if
>>> necessary.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We once had a longer discussion with the PLL HW engineers to get this
>>>> working because at least the display code we used as reference back
>>>> then got it wrong.
>>>
>>> After this series is reviewed, I can look through the other
>>> restrictions in the amdgpu_atombios_get_clock_info function and write
>>> another patch series to add those restrictions to DC.
>>>
>>
>> The PPLL limits from radeon and the non-DC code were based on the PLL
>> registers, i.e., what the hardware limit in the register was.  I'm not
>> sure what the practical limits really are per se.  I.e., if the whole
>> range is really usable or not.  I would tend to defer to DC.
>>
>> Alex
> 
> Hi Alex,
> 
> I'll leave it up to your judgement if you want to include this patch.
> I just wrote this for the sake of consistency with the non-DC code but the patch actually doesn't fix any actual bugs for me.
> 
> It is is based on information I found in the non-DC code, in the amdgpu_atombios_get_clock_info function. Maybe the PLL limits in this function were meant for even older GPUs and are not relevant to SI/CIK?

The DC and even the atombios tables got the clock divider ranges quite wrong sometimes. For example as far as I know the 1/10th handling for the feedback divider minimum was never correct in those.

But I'm not sure where the ref and post divider minimums came from of hand.

Regards,
Christian.

> 
> Best regards,
> Timur
> 
> 
>>
>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>   drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/dc/dce/dce_clock_source.c | 7 +++++++
>>>>>   1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/dc/dce/dce_clock_source.c
>>>>> b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/dc/dce/dce_clock_source.c
>>>>> index b4f5b4a6331a..00f25e2ee081 100644
>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/dc/dce/dce_clock_source.c
>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/display/dc/dce/dce_clock_source.c
>>>>> @@ -1700,6 +1700,13 @@ bool dce110_clk_src_construct(
>>>>>                      clk_src->cs_mask->PLL_POST_DIV_PIXCLK;
>>>>>      calc_pll_cs_init_data.min_pll_ref_divider =     1;
>>>>>      calc_pll_cs_init_data.max_pll_ref_divider =     clk_src-
>>>>>> cs_mask->PLL_REF_DIV;
>>>>> +
>>>>> +   if (ctx->dce_version <= DCE_VERSION_10_0) {
>>>>> +           /* Set stricter dividers to stabilize the PLL's
>>>>> feedback loop on old HW. */
>>>>> +           calc_pll_cs_init_data.min_pix_clk_pll_post_divider
>>>>> = 2;
>>>>> +           calc_pll_cs_init_data.min_pll_ref_divider = 2;
>>>>> +   }
>>>>> +
>>>>>      /* when 0 use minInputPxlClkPLLFrequencyInKHz from
>>>>> firmwareInfo*/
>>>>>      calc_pll_cs_init_data.min_override_input_pxl_clk_pll_freq_
>>>>> khz =       0;
>>>>>      /* when 0 use maxInputPxlClkPLLFrequencyInKHz from
>>>>> firmwareInfo*/
> 


      reply	other threads:[~2025-10-13 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-26 18:26 [PATCH 0/3] More SI power management and PLL fixes Timur Kristóf
2025-09-26 18:26 ` [PATCH 1/3] drm/amd/pm: Disable MCLK switching on SI at high pixel clocks Timur Kristóf
2025-10-09 19:30   ` Alex Deucher
2025-09-26 18:26 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm/amd: Disable ASPM on SI Timur Kristóf
2025-10-09 19:31   ` Alex Deucher
2025-09-26 18:26 ` [PATCH 3/3] drm/amd/display: Set stricter clock dividers on DCE 6-10 Timur Kristóf
2025-09-28 14:14   ` Christian König
2025-09-28 23:33     ` timur.kristof
2025-10-09 19:38       ` Alex Deucher
2025-10-13  6:15         ` Timur Kristóf
2025-10-13 13:12           ` Christian König [this message]

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