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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Jeanson <mjeanson@efficios.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/8] tracing/ftrace: guard syscall probe with preempt_notrace
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 21:04:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241003210403.71d4aa67@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6dc21f67-52e1-4ed5-af7f-f047c3c22c11@efficios.com>

On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 20:26:29 -0400
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:


> static void ftrace_syscall_enter(void *data, struct pt_regs *regs, long id)
> {
>          struct trace_array *tr = data;
>          struct trace_event_file *trace_file;
>          struct syscall_trace_enter *entry;
>          struct syscall_metadata *sys_data;
>          struct trace_event_buffer fbuffer;
>          unsigned long args[6];
>          int syscall_nr;
>          int size;
> 
>          syscall_nr = trace_get_syscall_nr(current, regs);
>          if (syscall_nr < 0 || syscall_nr >= NR_syscalls)
>                  return;
> 
>          /* Here we're inside tp handler's rcu_read_lock_sched (__DO_TRACE) */
>          trace_file = rcu_dereference_sched(tr->enter_syscall_files[syscall_nr]);
> 
> ^^^^ this function explicitly states that preempt needs to be disabled by
> tracepoints.

Ah, I should have known it was the syscall portion. I don't care for this
hidden dependency. I rather add a preempt disable here and not expect it to
be disabled when called.

> 
>          if (!trace_file)
>                  return;
> 
>          if (trace_trigger_soft_disabled(trace_file))
>                  return;
> 
>          sys_data = syscall_nr_to_meta(syscall_nr);
>          if (!sys_data)
>                  return;
> 
>          size = sizeof(*entry) + sizeof(unsigned long) * sys_data->nb_args;
> 
>          entry = trace_event_buffer_reserve(&fbuffer, trace_file, size);
> ^^^^ it reserves space in the ring buffer without disabling preemption explicitly.
> 
> And also:
> 
> void *trace_event_buffer_reserve(struct trace_event_buffer *fbuffer,
>                                   struct trace_event_file *trace_file,
>                                   unsigned long len)
> {
>          struct trace_event_call *event_call = trace_file->event_call;
> 
>          if ((trace_file->flags & EVENT_FILE_FL_PID_FILTER) &&
>              trace_event_ignore_this_pid(trace_file))
>                  return NULL;
> 
>          /*
>           * If CONFIG_PREEMPTION is enabled, then the tracepoint itself disables
>           * preemption (adding one to the preempt_count). Since we are
>           * interested in the preempt_count at the time the tracepoint was
>           * hit, we need to subtract one to offset the increment.
>           */
> ^^^ This function also explicitly expects preemption to be disabled.
> 
> So I rest my case. The change I'm introducing for tracepoints
> don't make any assumptions about whether or not each tracer require
> preempt off or not: it keeps the behavior the _same_ as it was before.
> 
> Then it's up to each tracer's developer to change the behavior of their
> own callbacks as they see fit. But I'm not introducing regressions in
> tracers with the "big switch" change of making syscall tracepoints
> faultable. This will belong to changes that are specific to each tracer.


I rather remove these dependencies at the source. So, IMHO, these places
should be "fixed" first.

At least for the ftrace users. But I think the same can be done for the
other users as well. BPF already stated it just needs "migrate_disable()".
Let's see what perf has.

We can then audit all the tracepoint users to make sure they do not need
preemption disabled.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-04  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-03 15:16 [PATCH v1 0/8] tracing: Allow system call tracepoints to handle page faults Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/8] tracing: Declare system call tracepoints with TRACE_EVENT_SYSCALL Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 21:32   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:15     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04  1:06       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  1:34         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 10:34   ` kernel test robot
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/8] tracing/ftrace: guard syscall probe with preempt_notrace Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:23   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:26     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04  1:04       ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2024-10-04  1:33         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 13:26           ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04 14:18             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 14:45               ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04 14:19             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 14:52               ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04 14:51                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 20:04                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-10-04 20:59                     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/8] tracing/perf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:25   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:17     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/8] tracing/bpf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:26   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-03 23:05     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-10-04  0:30       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04  1:28         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/8] tracing: Allow system call tracepoints to handle page faults Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:29   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:35     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 6/8] tracing/ftrace: Add might_fault check to syscall probes Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:36   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:11     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 7/8] tracing/perf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:37   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:12     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 8/8] tracing/bpf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:38   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:13     ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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