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From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Jeanson <mjeanson@efficios.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 5/8] tracing: Allow system call tracepoints to handle page faults
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2024 20:35:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <eacb18fc-7066-40f3-9d83-4602e946c225@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241003182934.0a027919@gandalf.local.home>

On 2024-10-04 00:29, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Thu,  3 Oct 2024 11:16:35 -0400
[...[
>> -#define __DO_TRACE(name, args, cond, rcuidle)				\
>> +#define __DO_TRACE(name, args, cond, rcuidle, syscall)			\
>>   	do {								\
>>   		int __maybe_unused __idx = 0;				\
>>   									\
>> @@ -222,8 +224,12 @@ static inline struct tracepoint *tracepoint_ptr_deref(tracepoint_ptr_t *p)
>>   			      "Bad RCU usage for tracepoint"))		\
>>   			return;						\
>>   									\
>> -		/* keep srcu and sched-rcu usage consistent */		\
>> -		preempt_disable_notrace();				\
>> +		if (syscall) {						\
>> +			rcu_read_lock_trace();				\
>> +		} else {						\
>> +			/* keep srcu and sched-rcu usage consistent */	\
>> +			preempt_disable_notrace();			\
>> +		}							\
>>   									\
> 
> I'm thinking we just use rcu_read_lock_trace() and get rid of the
> preempt_disable and srcu locks for all tracepoints. Oh crap! I should get
> rid of srcu locking too, as it was only needed for the rcuidle code :-p

How about we do it one step at a time ? First introduce use of the
(lightly tested) rcu_read_lock_trace() (at least in comparison with
preempt disable RCU) only for syscalls, and if this works well,
then eventually consider moving the preempt off users to
rcu_read_lock_trace as well ?

Of course it should all work well, in theory. But considering the
vast number of tracepoints we have in the kernel, I am reluctant
to change too many things at once in that area. We may very well
be bitten by unforeseen corner-cases.

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
https://www.efficios.com


  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-04  0:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-03 15:16 [PATCH v1 0/8] tracing: Allow system call tracepoints to handle page faults Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/8] tracing: Declare system call tracepoints with TRACE_EVENT_SYSCALL Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 21:32   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:15     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04  1:06       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  1:34         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 10:34   ` kernel test robot
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/8] tracing/ftrace: guard syscall probe with preempt_notrace Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:23   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:26     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04  1:04       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  1:33         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 13:26           ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04 14:18             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 14:45               ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04 14:19             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 14:52               ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04 14:51                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 20:04                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-10-04 20:59                     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/8] tracing/perf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:25   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:17     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/8] tracing/bpf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:26   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-03 23:05     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-10-04  0:30       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04  1:28         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/8] tracing: Allow system call tracepoints to handle page faults Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:29   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:35     ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 6/8] tracing/ftrace: Add might_fault check to syscall probes Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:36   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:11     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 7/8] tracing/perf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:37   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:12     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 8/8] tracing/bpf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:38   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:13     ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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