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From: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Jeanson <mjeanson@efficios.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/8] tracing/ftrace: guard syscall probe with preempt_notrace
Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2024 10:52:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241004105211.13ea45da@gandalf.local.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e547819a-7993-4c80-b358-6719ca420cf8@efficios.com>

On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 10:19:36 -0400
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:

> The eBPF people want to leverage this. When I last discussed this with
> eBPF maintainers, they were open to adapt eBPF after this infrastructure
> series is merged. Based on this eBPF attempt from 2022:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/c323bce9-a04e-b1c3-580a-783fde259d60@fb.com/

Sorry, I wasn't part of that discussion.

> 
> The sframe code is just getting in shape (2024), but is far from being ready.
> 
> Everyone appears to be waiting for this infrastructure work to go in
> before they can build on top. Once this infrastructure is available,
> multiple groups can start working on introducing use of this into their
> own code in parallel.
> 
> Four years into this effort, and this is the first time we're told we need
> to adapt in-tree tracers to handle the page faults before this can go in.
> 
> Could you please stop moving the goal posts ?

I don't think I'm moving the goal posts. I was mentioning to show an
in-tree user. If BPF wants this, I'm all for it. The only thing I saw was a
generalization in the cover letter about perf, bpf and ftrace using
faultible tracepoints. I just wanted to see a path for that happening.

-- Steve

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-04 14:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-03 15:16 [PATCH v1 0/8] tracing: Allow system call tracepoints to handle page faults Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 1/8] tracing: Declare system call tracepoints with TRACE_EVENT_SYSCALL Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 21:32   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:15     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04  1:06       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  1:34         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 10:34   ` kernel test robot
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 2/8] tracing/ftrace: guard syscall probe with preempt_notrace Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:23   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:26     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04  1:04       ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  1:33         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 13:26           ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04 14:18             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 14:45               ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04 14:19             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 14:52               ` Steven Rostedt [this message]
2024-10-04 14:51                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04 20:04                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-10-04 20:59                     ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 3/8] tracing/perf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:25   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:17     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 4/8] tracing/bpf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:26   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-03 23:05     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-10-04  0:30       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-04  1:28         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 5/8] tracing: Allow system call tracepoints to handle page faults Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:29   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:35     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 6/8] tracing/ftrace: Add might_fault check to syscall probes Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:36   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:11     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 7/8] tracing/perf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:37   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:12     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 15:16 ` [PATCH v1 8/8] tracing/bpf: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2024-10-03 22:38   ` Steven Rostedt
2024-10-04  0:13     ` Mathieu Desnoyers

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