From: Joanne Koong <joannekoong@fb.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Kernel Team <Kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v4 1/5] bpf: Add bitset map with bloom filter capabilities
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:46:47 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <38d80c55-97e1-4cbb-cb23-d6331d8f539b@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877deiif3q.fsf@toke.dk>
On 10/12/21 5:48 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> The 'find first set' operation is a single instruction on common
>>> architectures, so it's an efficient way of finding the first non-empty
>>> bucket if you index them in a bitmap; sch_qfq uses this, for instance.
>> There is also extremely useful popcnt() instruction, would be great to
>> have that as well. There is also fls() (find largest set bit), it is
>> used extensively throughout the kernel. If we'd like to take this ad
>> absurdum, there are a lot of useful operations defined in
>> include/linux/bitops.h and include/linux/bitmap.h, I'm pretty sure one
>> can come up with a use case for every one of those.
>>
>> The question is whether we should bloat the kernel with such
>> helpers/operations?
> I agree, all of those are interesting bitwise operations that would be
> useful to expose to BPF. But if we're not going to "bloat the kernel"
> with them, what should we do? Introduce new BPF instructions?
>
>> I'd love to hear specific arguments in favor of dedicated BITSET,
>> though.
> Mainly the above; given the right instructions, I totally buy your
> assertion that one can build a bitmap using regular BPF arrays...
>
> -Toke
I have the same opinion as Toke here - the most compelling reason I
see for the bitset map to be supported by the kernel is so we can
support a wider set of bit operations that wouldn't be available
strictly through bpf.
I'm also open to adding the bloom filter map and then in the
future, if/when there is a need for the bitset map, adding that as a
separate map. In that case, we could have the bitset map take in
both key and value where key = the bitset index and value = 0 or 1.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-12 22:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-06 22:20 [PATCH bpf-next v4 0/5] Implement bitset maps, with bloom filter Joanne Koong
2021-10-06 22:20 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 1/5] bpf: Add bitset map with bloom filter capabilities Joanne Koong
2021-10-07 14:20 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-07 21:59 ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-08 21:57 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-08 23:11 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-09 13:10 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-12 3:17 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-12 12:48 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-12 22:46 ` Joanne Koong [this message]
2021-10-12 23:25 ` Zvi Effron
2021-10-13 1:17 ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-13 4:48 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-13 0:11 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2021-10-13 4:41 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-19 23:53 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-08 23:05 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-08 23:24 ` Zvi Effron
2021-10-09 0:16 ` Martin KaFai Lau
2021-10-06 22:21 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 2/5] libbpf: Add "map_extra" as a per-map-type extra flag Joanne Koong
2021-10-08 23:19 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-20 21:08 ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-20 21:21 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-21 20:14 ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-21 21:41 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-09 2:12 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-06 22:21 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 3/5] selftests/bpf: Add bitset map test cases Joanne Koong
2021-10-06 22:21 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 4/5] bpf/benchs: Add benchmark tests for bloom filter throughput + false positive Joanne Koong
2021-10-06 22:35 ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-09 2:54 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-15 23:35 ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-20 0:46 ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-09 2:39 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-06 22:21 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 5/5] bpf/benchs: Add benchmarks for comparing hashmap lookups w/ vs. w/out bloom filter Joanne Koong
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