BPF List
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Joanne Koong <joannekoong@fb.com>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>, Kernel Team <Kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v4 1/5] bpf: Add bitset map with bloom filter capabilities
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:46:47 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <38d80c55-97e1-4cbb-cb23-d6331d8f539b@fb.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877deiif3q.fsf@toke.dk>

On 10/12/21 5:48 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:

> Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> The 'find first set' operation is a single instruction on common
>>> architectures, so it's an efficient way of finding the first non-empty
>>> bucket if you index them in a bitmap; sch_qfq uses this, for instance.
>> There is also extremely useful popcnt() instruction, would be great to
>> have that as well. There is also fls() (find largest set bit), it is
>> used extensively throughout the kernel. If we'd like to take this ad
>> absurdum, there are a lot of useful operations defined in
>> include/linux/bitops.h and include/linux/bitmap.h, I'm pretty sure one
>> can come up with a use case for every one of those.
>>
>> The question is whether we should bloat the kernel with such
>> helpers/operations?
> I agree, all of those are interesting bitwise operations that would be
> useful to expose to BPF. But if we're not going to "bloat the kernel"
> with them, what should we do? Introduce new BPF instructions?
>
>> I'd love to hear specific arguments in favor of dedicated BITSET,
>> though.
> Mainly the above; given the right instructions, I totally buy your
> assertion that one can build a bitmap using regular BPF arrays...
>
> -Toke
I have the same opinion as Toke here - the most compelling reason I
see for the bitset map to be supported by the kernel is so we can
support a wider set of bit operations that wouldn't be available
strictly through bpf.

I'm also open to adding the bloom filter map and then in the
future, if/when there is a need for the bitset map, adding that as a
separate map. In that case, we could have the bitset map take in
both key and value where key = the bitset index and value = 0 or 1.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-12 22:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-06 22:20 [PATCH bpf-next v4 0/5] Implement bitset maps, with bloom filter Joanne Koong
2021-10-06 22:20 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 1/5] bpf: Add bitset map with bloom filter capabilities Joanne Koong
2021-10-07 14:20   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-07 21:59     ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-08 21:57       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-08 23:11         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-09 13:10           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-12  3:17             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-12 12:48               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-12 22:46                 ` Joanne Koong [this message]
2021-10-12 23:25                   ` Zvi Effron
2021-10-13  1:17                     ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-13  4:48                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-13  0:11                   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2021-10-13  4:41                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-19 23:53                       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-08 23:05   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-08 23:24     ` Zvi Effron
2021-10-09  0:16       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2021-10-06 22:21 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 2/5] libbpf: Add "map_extra" as a per-map-type extra flag Joanne Koong
2021-10-08 23:19   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-20 21:08     ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-20 21:21       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-21 20:14         ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-21 21:41           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-09  2:12   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-06 22:21 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 3/5] selftests/bpf: Add bitset map test cases Joanne Koong
2021-10-06 22:21 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 4/5] bpf/benchs: Add benchmark tests for bloom filter throughput + false positive Joanne Koong
2021-10-06 22:35   ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-09  2:54     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-15 23:35       ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-20  0:46         ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-09  2:39   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-06 22:21 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 5/5] bpf/benchs: Add benchmarks for comparing hashmap lookups w/ vs. w/out bloom filter Joanne Koong

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=38d80c55-97e1-4cbb-cb23-d6331d8f539b@fb.com \
    --to=joannekoong@fb.com \
    --cc=Kernel-team@fb.com \
    --cc=andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com \
    --cc=bpf@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=toke@redhat.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox