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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Joanne Koong <joannekoong@fb.com>, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v4 1/5] bpf: Add bitset map with bloom filter capabilities
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 23:57:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o87zji2a.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4536decc-5366-dc07-4923-32f2db948d85@fb.com>

Joanne Koong <joannekoong@fb.com> writes:

> On 10/7/21 7:20 AM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>
>> Joanne Koong <joannekoong@fb.com> writes:
>>
>>> This patch adds the kernel-side changes for the implementation of
>>> a bitset map with bloom filter capabilities.
>>>
>>> The bitset map does not have keys, only values since it is a
>>> non-associative data type. When the bitset map is created, it must
>>> be created with a key_size of 0, and the max_entries value should be the
>>> desired size of the bitset, in number of bits.
>>>
>>> The bitset map supports peek (determining whether a bit is set in the
>>> map), push (setting a bit in the map), and pop (clearing a bit in the
>>> map) operations. These operations are exposed to userspace applications
>>> through the already existing syscalls in the following way:
>>>
>>> BPF_MAP_UPDATE_ELEM -> bpf_map_push_elem
>>> BPF_MAP_LOOKUP_ELEM -> bpf_map_peek_elem
>>> BPF_MAP_LOOKUP_AND_DELETE_ELEM -> bpf_map_pop_elem
>>>
>>> For updates, the user will pass in a NULL key and the index of the
>>> bit to set in the bitmap as the value. For lookups, the user will pass
>>> in the index of the bit to check as the value. If the bit is set, 0
>>> will be returned, else -ENOENT. For clearing the bit, the user will pass
>>> in the index of the bit to clear as the value.
>> This is interesting, and I can see other uses of such a data structure.
>> However, a couple of questions (talking mostly about the 'raw' bitmap
>> without the bloom filter enabled):
>>
>> - How are you envisioning synchronisation to work? The code is using the
>>    atomic set_bit() operation, but there's no test_and_{set,clear}_bit().
>>    Any thoughts on how users would do this?
> I was thinking for users who are doing concurrent lookups + updates,
> they are responsible for synchronizing the operations through mutexes.
> Do you think this makes sense / is reasonable?

Right, that is an option, of course, but it's a bit heavyweight. Atomic
bitops are a nice light-weight synchronisation primitive.

Hmm, looking at your code again, you're already using
test_and_clear_bit() in pop_elem(). So why not just mirror that to
test_and_set_bit() in push_elem(), and change the returns to EEXIST and
ENOENT if trying to set or clear a bit that is already set or cleared
(respectively)?

>> - It would be useful to expose the "find first set (ffs)" operation of
>>    the bitmap as well. This can be added later, but thinking about the
>>    API from the start would be good to avoid having to add a whole
>>    separate helper for this. My immediate thought is to reserve peek(-1)
>>    for this use - WDYT?
> I think using peek(-1) for "find first set" sounds like a great idea!

Awesome!

>> - Any thoughts on inlining the lookups? This should at least be feasible
>>    for the non-bloom-filter type, but I'm not quite sure if the use of
>>    map_extra allows the verifier to distinguish between the map types
>>    (I'm a little fuzzy on how the inlining actually works)? And can
>>    peek()/push()/pop() be inlined at all?
>
> I am not too familiar with how bpf instructions and inlining works, but
> from a first glance, this looks doable for both the non-bloom filter
> and bloom filter cases. From my cursory understanding of how it works,
> it seems like we could have something like "bitset_map_gen_lookup" where
> we parse the bpf_map->map_extra to see if the bloom filter is enabled;
> if it is, we could call the hash function directly to compute which bit 
> to look up,
> and then use the same insn logic for looking up the bit in both cases
> (the bitmap w/ and w/out the bloom filter).
>
> I don't think there is support yet in the verifier for inlining
> peek()/push()/pop(), but it seems like this should be doable as well.
>
> I think these changes would maybe warrant a separate patchset
> on top of this one. What are your thoughts?

Ah yes, I think you're right, this should be possible to add later. I'm
fine with deferring that to a separate series, then :)

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-08 21:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-06 22:20 [PATCH bpf-next v4 0/5] Implement bitset maps, with bloom filter Joanne Koong
2021-10-06 22:20 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 1/5] bpf: Add bitset map with bloom filter capabilities Joanne Koong
2021-10-07 14:20   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-07 21:59     ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-08 21:57       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2021-10-08 23:11         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-09 13:10           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-12  3:17             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-12 12:48               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2021-10-12 22:46                 ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-12 23:25                   ` Zvi Effron
2021-10-13  1:17                     ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-13  4:48                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-13  0:11                   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2021-10-13  4:41                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2021-10-19 23:53                       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-08 23:05   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-08 23:24     ` Zvi Effron
2021-10-09  0:16       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2021-10-06 22:21 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 2/5] libbpf: Add "map_extra" as a per-map-type extra flag Joanne Koong
2021-10-08 23:19   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-20 21:08     ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-20 21:21       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-21 20:14         ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-21 21:41           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-09  2:12   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-06 22:21 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 3/5] selftests/bpf: Add bitset map test cases Joanne Koong
2021-10-06 22:21 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 4/5] bpf/benchs: Add benchmark tests for bloom filter throughput + false positive Joanne Koong
2021-10-06 22:35   ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-09  2:54     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-15 23:35       ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-20  0:46         ` Joanne Koong
2021-10-09  2:39   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2021-10-06 22:21 ` [PATCH bpf-next v4 5/5] bpf/benchs: Add benchmarks for comparing hashmap lookups w/ vs. w/out bloom filter Joanne Koong

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