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From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, andrii@kernel.org,
	daniel@iogearbox.net,  martin.lau@linux.dev, kernel-team@fb.com,
	yhs@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/4] bpf: verify scalar ids mapping in regsafe() using check_ids()
Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 22:30:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a13ee48ac037d0dbb6796c7ea5965140ec7ef726.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzYjvjbm9g1N9Z04kXV1N3+KH+dZ_sq_0NWuhyuJ+A18UQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 2023-05-31 at 11:29 -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 10:21 AM Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, 2023-05-30 at 14:37 -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > [...]
> > > Also, it might make sense to drop SCALAR register IDs as soon as we
> > > have only one instance of it left (e.g., if "paired" register was
> > > overwritten already). I.e., aggressively drop IDs when they become
> > > useless. WDYT?
> > 
> > I added modification which resets sole scalar IDs to zero before
> > states comparison, it shows some speedup but is still slow:
> > 
> >   Filter        | Number of programs | Number of programs
> >                 | patch #1           | patch #1 + sole scalar ID pruning
> >   ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >   states_pct>10 | 40                 | 40
> >   states_pct>20 | 20                 | 19
> >   states_pct>30 | 15                 | 13
> >   states_pct>40 | 11                 | 8
> > 
> > (Out of 177 programs).
> > 
> > I'll modify mark_chain_precision() to propagate precision marks for
> > find_equal_scalars(), so that it could be compared to current patch #3
> > in terms of code complexity and verification performance.
> > 
> > If you have any thoughts regarding my previous email, please share.
> > 
> 
> Yep, I do. Given SCALAR registers with the same ID are meant to "share
> the destiny", shouldn't it be required that when we mark r6 as precise
> we should automatically mark linked r7 as precise at the same point.
> So in your example:
> 
> 7: r9 += r6
> 
> should be where we request both r6 and r7 (and whatever other register
> has the same ID) to be marked as precise. It should be very easy to
> implement, especially given my recent refactoring with
> mark_chain_precision_batch.

Ok, I'll modify the `struct backtrack_state` as follows:

  struct backtrack_state {
	struct bpf_verifier_env *env;
	u32 frame;
	u32 reg_masks[MAX_CALL_FRAMES];
+	u32 reg_ids[MAX_CALL_FRAMES];
	u64 stack_masks[MAX_CALL_FRAMES];
+	u64 stack_ids[MAX_CALL_FRAMES];
  };

And add corresponding logic to backtrack_insn().

> The question I have (and again, haven't spent any time thinking about
> any other corner cases, sorry) is whether that alone would be a proper
> fix?

As far as I understand, in terms of correctness it would be a proper fix.
In terms of performance, I hope that it would be enough but we will see.

> As for this u32_hashset, it just feels like a big overkill, tbh. If we
> have to do something like that, wouldn't it be better to, say, set
> highest bit in reg->id (for all linked registers, of course) to mark
> it as "used for range checks" instead of maintaining a separate check?

Unfortunately no, because this ID change would have to be propagated
backwards. It was the first implementation I tried.

> But just the whole idea of keeping track of some special circumstances
> under which IDs are meaningful seems wrong... All this logic is
> complicated, now we are adding another layer of complexity on top. And
> the complexity is not in the code, it's in thinking about all possible
> scenarios and their interactions.

I agree that adding more layers is a complication in itself.
Thank you for your input.

> > [...]


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-31 19:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-30 17:27 [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/4] verify scalar ids mapping in regsafe() Eduard Zingerman
2023-05-30 17:27 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/4] bpf: verify scalar ids mapping in regsafe() using check_ids() Eduard Zingerman
2023-05-30 21:37   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-30 23:02     ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-06-01  2:05       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-06-01 16:57         ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-06-01 17:13           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-06-01 18:52             ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-06-02 18:50               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-06-02 19:13                 ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-06-02 19:27                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-06-02 19:37                     ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-06-02 19:43                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-06-02 19:51                         ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-06-02 20:03                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-06-02 20:22                             ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-06-02 20:17                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-06-02 21:13                     ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-06-02 22:07                       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-06-02 23:20                         ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-06-05 20:43                           ` Eduard Zingerman
     [not found]     ` <f2abf39bcd4de841a89bb248de9e242a880aaa93.camel@gmail.com>
2023-05-31 18:29       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-31 19:30         ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2023-05-31 20:12           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-31 20:31             ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-05-31 21:14               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-31 22:15                 ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-05-31 22:54                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-31 23:42                     ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-06-01  0:23                       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-30 17:27 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/4] selftests/bpf: verify that check_ids() is used for scalars in regsafe() Eduard Zingerman
2023-05-30 17:27 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 3/4] bpf: filter out scalar ids not used for range transfer " Eduard Zingerman
2023-05-30 17:27 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 4/4] selftests/bpf: check env->that range_transfer_ids has effect Eduard Zingerman

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