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From: Imre Deak <imre.deak@intel.com>
To: "Murthy, Arun R" <arun.r.murthy@intel.com>
Cc: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/4] DP: Read LTTPR caps followed by DPRX caps
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2026 11:46:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aaqibzXw-QK4mrHR@ideak-desk.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e862ee8-34e2-4330-a9ae-e5b97ef3beae@intel.com>

On Fri, Mar 06, 2026 at 09:59:10AM +0530, Murthy, Arun R wrote:
> 
> On 05-03-2026 21:41, Imre Deak wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 05, 2026 at 01:48:10PM +0530, Arun R Murthy wrote:
> > > As per the spec  DP2.1 section 3.6.8.6.1, section 2.12.1,
> > > section 2.12.3 (Link Policy) the LTTPR caps is to be read first
> > > followed by the DPRX capability.
> > Not exactly. The Standard requires reading the DPRX capabilities after
> > the LTTPR caps are read.
>
> I also mean the same, sorry if my wordings were complex.
>
> > The driver does read the DPRX caps after
> > reading the LTTPR caps.
> 
> In intel_dp_link_training.c function intel_dp_init_lttpr_and_dprx_caps()
> 
> int err = intel_dp_read_dprx_caps()
> if (err != 0)
>     return err;
> lttpr_count = intel_dp_init_lttpr()
> 
> Here we are reading dprx caps and then passing this dprx caps to the the
> func intel_dp_init_lttpr(). I think this will be a deviation of the spec.

No, it's not a deviation of the spec, because the spec does not forbid
reading the DPCD_REV or other DPCD registers before reading the LTTPR
capability registers and it cannot really forbid this as I explained.

What the spec requires is reading the DPRX capabilities after the LTTPR
capabilities were read out, which the driver does: after the above lines
there is also:

        /*
         * The DPTX shall read the DPRX caps after LTTPR detection, so re-read
         * it here.
         */
        if (drm_dp_read_dpcd_caps(&intel_dp->aux, intel_dp->dpcd)) ...

> > The DP Standard does not mandate that the first read after a sink is
> > connected (i.e. after the HPD signal of the sink is asserted) must
> > be an LTTPR capability read and cannot be any other DPCD register
> > read. In fact this would be impossible to guarantee, a DPRX
> > capability read - or any DPCD register read for that matter - could
> > happen at any point and so it could happen right after the HPD
> > signal got asserted.
>
> Spec DP2.1 Section 3.6.8.6.1 LTTPR Recognition After HPD is propagated
> from the DPRX to the DPTX, a DP Source device with a DPTX shall read
> specific registers within the DPCD LTTPR Capability and ID Field (DPCD
> F0000h through F0009h; see Section 3.6.5) After LTTPR recognition, a
> DP Source device with a DPTX shall read the DP Sink device with a
> DPRX’s capability by reading the DisplayID or legacy EDID and the
> DPRX’s Receiver Capability field (DPCD 00000h through 000FFh; see
> Table 2-232).

The above does not prohibit reading non-LTTPR DPCD registers before
reading F0000h - F0009h, and it cannot forbid this as explained above.

> > > Git log shows that initially drm dp helper exposed function to read
> > > lttpr caps. Driver reads the lttpr caps and then the dprx caps.
> > > For a particular issue
> > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues/3415
> > > as a workaround reading dprx caps was done first to know if the panel is
> > > < DP1.4 and then read 1 block at a time for lttpr caps.
> > > 
> > > This can be handled in a better way and two such ways is what I see.
> > > 1. Read LTTPR caps followed by DPRX caps as per the spec. Then on
> > > reading dprx caps if revision < 1.4 then re-read the lttpr caps one
> > > block at a time.
> > > 
> > > 2. Read LTTPR caps and if 8b/10b check for correctness of the link rate
> > > supported(lttpr caps 0xf0001), if some corrupted value is read then read
> > > one block at a time.
>
> > The driver does read the DPRX capabilities after reading the LTTPR
> > capabilities. This is what the standard mandates.
>
> Yes but before reading the LTTPR capabilities also DPRX capabilities is
> read. Have added ref to the code snipped above.

This is not forbidden by the specification.

> Please let me know if my understanding is wrong.
>
> > The workaround for issues/3415 depends on the DPCD_REV value, so this is
> > read separately before reading the LTTPR caps. I don't see a better way
> > to implement the workaround and such read is not prohibited by the DP
> > Standard either. So I don't see the point of the changes in this
> > patchset.
> 
> As Jani pointed this can be added as a quirk for that particular panel
> instead of mandating this kind of reading dprx caps first and then reading
> the lttpr caps for all the monitors.

There is already a quirk in the driver - to read out the LTTPR
capabilities 1 byte at a time - and the quirk is applied based on the
DPCD_REV register value of the monitor.

> Thanks and Regards,
> Arun R Murthy
> -------------------
> 
> > 
> > > I am open for either of the two or you have any other options as well I
> > > am open.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Arun R Murthy <arun.r.murthy@intel.com>
> > > ---
> > > Arun R Murthy (4):
> > >        drm/display/dp: Read LTTPR caps without DPRX caps
> > >        drm/i915/dp: Read LTTPR caps followed by DPRX caps
> > >        drm/i915/dp: On HPD read LTTPR caps followed by DPRX caps
> > >        drm/i915/dp: DPRX/LTTPR caps for DP should be read once
> > > 
> > >   drivers/gpu/drm/display/drm_dp_helper.c            | 63 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >   drivers/gpu/drm/i915/display/intel_dp.c            |  3 +-
> > >   .../gpu/drm/i915/display/intel_dp_link_training.c  | 40 +++++++-------
> > >   .../gpu/drm/i915/display/intel_dp_link_training.h  |  1 -
> > >   drivers/gpu/drm/i915/display/intel_dp_tunnel.c     |  3 +-
> > >   include/drm/display/drm_dp_helper.h                |  2 +
> > >   6 files changed, 86 insertions(+), 26 deletions(-)
> > > ---
> > > base-commit: cfc20c776480fda8c1b0517b187bb71ec0781cd4
> > > change-id: 20260305-dp_aux-1e27599e06c8
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > -- 
> > > Arun R Murthy <arun.r.murthy@intel.com>
> > > 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-06  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-05  8:18 [PATCH RFC 0/4] DP: Read LTTPR caps followed by DPRX caps Arun R Murthy
2026-03-05  8:18 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] drm/display/dp: Read LTTPR caps without " Arun R Murthy
2026-03-05  9:18   ` Jani Nikula
2026-03-06  4:08     ` Murthy, Arun R
2026-03-05 16:29   ` Imre Deak
2026-03-06  4:10     ` Murthy, Arun R
2026-03-05  8:18 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] drm/i915/dp: Read LTTPR caps followed by " Arun R Murthy
2026-03-05  8:18 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] drm/i915/dp: On HPD read " Arun R Murthy
2026-03-05  8:18 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] drm/i915/dp: DPRX/LTTPR caps for DP should be read once Arun R Murthy
2026-03-05 16:11 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] DP: Read LTTPR caps followed by DPRX caps Imre Deak
2026-03-06  4:29   ` Murthy, Arun R
2026-03-06  9:46     ` Imre Deak [this message]
2026-03-10  8:58       ` Murthy, Arun R
2026-03-06  4:29   ` Murthy, Arun R
2026-03-06  3:42 ` ✗ CI.checkpatch: warning for " Patchwork
2026-03-06  3:44 ` ✓ CI.KUnit: success " Patchwork
2026-03-06  4:33 ` ✗ Xe.CI.BAT: failure " Patchwork
2026-03-07  1:55 ` ✗ Xe.CI.FULL: " Patchwork

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