Fun and games with elks-cvs

Fun and games with elks-cvs

[Greg Sheard]

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Hi folks,

Having snarfed (and fixed to build) elks from CVS, I've discovered that
bochs doesn't like the elks-images. It calmly informs me that it's not a
bootable disk, whether I put it on a real live floppy or use an image.

Does anyone have any tips or pointers, as I suspect I'm missing a step
on the "make a disk with useful stuff on it" procedure.

Thanks in advance,

Greg.

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Re: Fun and games with elks-cvs

[Tommy McCabe]

--- Tommy McCabe <rocketjet314@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> --- Greg Sheard <greg.sheard@ecsc.co.uk> wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > Having snarfed (and fixed to build) elks from CVS,
> > I've discovered that
> > bochs doesn't like the elks-images. It calmly
> > informs me that it's not a
> > bootable disk, whether I put it on a real live
> > floppy or use an image.
> > 
> > Does anyone have any tips or pointers, as I
> suspect
> > I'm missing a step
> > on the "make a disk with useful stuff on it"
> > procedure.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Greg.
> 
> For me, Bochs says that no matter what image I use.
> Don't ask me why, it just doesn't work. Try using a
real computer.
> > -- 
> > Everything is gone 
> > Your life's work has been destroyed 
> > Squeeze trigger (yes/no)?
> > 
> 
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Re: Fun and games with elks-cvs

[Greg Sheard]

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On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 22:03, Tommy McCabe wrote:
> --- Tommy McCabe <rocketjet314@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > --- Greg Sheard <greg.sheard@ecsc.co.uk> wrote:
> > > Hi folks,
> > > 
> > > Having snarfed (and fixed to build) elks from CVS,
> > > I've discovered that
> > > bochs doesn't like the elks-images. It calmly
> > > informs me that it's not a
> > > bootable disk, whether I put it on a real live
> > > floppy or use an image.
> > > 
> > > Does anyone have any tips or pointers, as I
> > suspect
> > > I'm missing a step
> > > on the "make a disk with useful stuff on it"
> > > procedure.
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance,
> > > 
> > > Greg.
> > 
> > For me, Bochs says that no matter what image I use.
> > Don't ask me why, it just doesn't work. Try using a
> real computer.

Thanks Tommy, but that's not an option; I don't have access to a "real"
computer < 80386, hence wanting to use Bochs. However, I can (for the
interest and amusement of everyone reading, no doubt) confirm that it
works just fine on MS Virtual PC 2004... so I better go buy floppy disks
before they get abolished :)

Expect me to ask lots of dumb questions as I get underway with this
stuff.

Greg.

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Luser is no more

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Re: Fun and games with elks-cvs

[Tommy McCabe]

--- Tommy McCabe <rocketjet314@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> --- Greg Sheard <greg.sheard@ecsc.co.uk> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 22:03, Tommy McCabe wrote:
> > > --- Tommy McCabe <rocketjet314@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > --- Greg Sheard <greg.sheard@ecsc.co.uk>
> wrote:
> > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Having snarfed (and fixed to build) elks
> from
> > CVS,
> > > > > I've discovered that
> > > > > bochs doesn't like the elks-images. It
> calmly
> > > > > informs me that it's not a
> > > > > bootable disk, whether I put it on a real
> live
> > > > > floppy or use an image.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Does anyone have any tips or pointers, as I
> > > > suspect
> > > > > I'm missing a step
> > > > > on the "make a disk with useful stuff on it"
> > > > > procedure.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Greg.
> > > > 
> > > > For me, Bochs says that no matter what image I
> > use.
> > > > Don't ask me why, it just doesn't work. Try
> > using a
> > > real computer.
> > 
> > Thanks Tommy, but that's not an option; I don't
> have
> > access to a "real"
> > computer < 80386, hence wanting to use Bochs.
> 
> Completely unnecessary. Even the latest AMD64s at 3+
> GHz boot up in real mode, that is, 8086-compatible
> mode.
> 
> > However, I can (for the
> > interest and amusement of everyone reading, no
> > doubt) confirm that it
> > works just fine on MS Virtual PC 2004... so I
> better
> > go buy floppy disks
> > before they get abolished :)
> 
> Why are you using MS crapware?
> 
> > Expect me to ask lots of dumb questions as I get
> > underway with this
> > stuff.
> > Greg.
> > 
> > -- 
> > My LART is feeding 
> > Blood-eagle on wooden floor 
> > Luser is no more
> > 
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Re: Fun and games with elks-cvs

[Greg Sheard]

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On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 15:53, Tommy McCabe wrote:
> --- Tommy McCabe <rocketjet314@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > --- Greg Sheard <greg.sheard@ecsc.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 22:03, Tommy McCabe wrote:
> > > > --- Tommy McCabe <rocketjet314@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- Greg Sheard <greg.sheard@ecsc.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Having snarfed (and fixed to build) elks
> > from
> > > CVS,
> > > > > > I've discovered that
> > > > > > bochs doesn't like the elks-images. It
> > calmly
> > > > > > informs me that it's not a
> > > > > > bootable disk, whether I put it on a real
> > live
> > > > > > floppy or use an image.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Does anyone have any tips or pointers, as I
> > > > > suspect
> > > > > > I'm missing a step
> > > > > > on the "make a disk with useful stuff on it"
> > > > > > procedure.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Greg.
> > > > > 
> > > > > For me, Bochs says that no matter what image I
> > > use.
> > > > > Don't ask me why, it just doesn't work. Try
> > > using a
> > > > real computer.
> > > 
> > > Thanks Tommy, but that's not an option; I don't
> > have
> > > access to a "real"
> > > computer < 80386, hence wanting to use Bochs.
> > 
> > Completely unnecessary. Even the latest AMD64s at 3+
> > GHz boot up in real mode, that is, 8086-compatible
> > mode.

Sadly, not all of us have access to a machine sufficiently under-used to
boot elks on. Since my coding environment consists of a Linux laptop on
which I build, and an XP box on which I do the many things I am required
to do in Windows, I need an emulator of some nature regardless of
processor type.

> > > However, I can (for the
> > > interest and amusement of everyone reading, no
> > > doubt) confirm that it
> > > works just fine on MS Virtual PC 2004... so I
> > better
> > > go buy floppy disks
> > > before they get abolished :)
> > 
> > Why are you using MS crapware?

Your kink is not my kink (and obviously vice versa).

I'm concerned, Tommy, by the impression that you would far rather I gave
up on my interest in this project. Surely it matters not a jot that I'm
booting ELKS on Virtual PC? Or is there a deep philosophical objection
to such an activity, of which I'm not aware?

I'm unfortunately quite content to bicker with you all day about this,
but I'd prefer to do something more productive, like shooting fish in a
barrel with a shotgun.

So, does anyone here know how to persuade the "comb" disk image to load
a custom kernel image? It's not documented as far as Google could see
(though my Google results tend to be erratic at best).

Thanks,

Greg.

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I can't really imagine waiting until 1997 to see all nine parts 
of the Star Wars series." -- Randal L. Schwartz, 1983

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Re: Fun and games with elks-cvs

[Tommy McCabe]

--- Greg Sheard <greg.sheard@ecsc.co.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 2004-05-28 at 15:53, Tommy McCabe wrote:
> > --- Tommy McCabe <rocketjet314@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > --- Greg Sheard <greg.sheard@ecsc.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2004-05-27 at 22:03, Tommy McCabe
> wrote:
> > > > > --- Tommy McCabe <rocketjet314@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- Greg Sheard <greg.sheard@ecsc.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi folks,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Having snarfed (and fixed to build) elks
> > > from
> > > > CVS,
> > > > > > > I've discovered that
> > > > > > > bochs doesn't like the elks-images. It
> > > calmly
> > > > > > > informs me that it's not a
> > > > > > > bootable disk, whether I put it on a
> real
> > > live
> > > > > > > floppy or use an image.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Does anyone have any tips or pointers,
> as I
> > > > > > suspect
> > > > > > > I'm missing a step
> > > > > > > on the "make a disk with useful stuff on
> it"
> > > > > > > procedure.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Thanks in advance,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Greg.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > For me, Bochs says that no matter what
> image I
> > > > use.
> > > > > > Don't ask me why, it just doesn't work.
> Try
> > > > using a
> > > > > real computer.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks Tommy, but that's not an option; I
> don't
> > > have
> > > > access to a "real"
> > > > computer < 80386, hence wanting to use Bochs.
> > > 
> > > Completely unnecessary. Even the latest AMD64s
> at 3+
> > > GHz boot up in real mode, that is,
> 8086-compatible
> > > mode.
> 
> Sadly, not all of us have access to a machine
> sufficiently under-used to
> boot elks on. Since my coding environment consists
> of a Linux laptop on
> which I build, and an XP box on which I do the many
> things I am required
> to do in Windows, I need an emulator of some nature
> regardless of
> processor type.
> 
> > > > However, I can (for the
> > > > interest and amusement of everyone reading, no
> > > > doubt) confirm that it
> > > > works just fine on MS Virtual PC 2004... so I
> > > better
> > > > go buy floppy disks
> > > > before they get abolished :)
> > > 
> > > Why are you using MS crapware?
> 
> Your kink is not my kink (and obviously vice versa).
> 
> I'm concerned, Tommy, by the impression that you
> would far rather I gave
> up on my interest in this project.

Huh? How do you derive this?

> Surely it matters
> not a jot that I'm
> booting ELKS on Virtual PC? Or is there a deep
> philosophical objection
> to such an activity, of which I'm not aware?

Heh. :-) I was just wondering why you couldn't reboot
the PC you are running on. The main "philosophical
objection" I have to Bochs is that it doesn't work.

> I'm unfortunately quite content to bicker with you
> all day about this,
> but I'd prefer to do something more productive, like
> shooting fish in a
> barrel with a shotgun.

If no one ever bickered they'red be no ELKS, no Linux,
no email, no Internet, no computers, and no
electricity.

> So, does anyone here know how to persuade the "comb"
> disk image to load
> a custom kernel image? It's not documented as far as
> Google could see
> (though my Google results tend to be erratic at
> best).

I think you'd have to rebuild the comb image from
scratch to include your own kernel image.

> Thanks,
> 
> Greg.
> 
> -- 
> "I wish Lucas & Co. would get the thing going a
> little faster. 
> I can't really imagine waiting until 1997 to see all
> nine parts 
> of the Star Wars series." -- Randal L. Schwartz,
> 1983
> 

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